Hi

New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain 
down service.

Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.

So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down 
service?
He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.

"Newbie to caravans"  wrote in message 
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> Hi
>
> New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
> My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
> The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain 
> down service.
>
> Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
> They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.
>
> So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down 
> service?
> He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
> Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.
>
Didn't he ask the manager what was meant?

Mary

"Newbie to caravans"  wrote in message 
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> Hi
>
> New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
> My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
> The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain 
> down service.
>
> Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
> They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.
>
> So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down 
> service?
> He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
> Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.
>
>
The service should consist of draining all fresh & waste water systems so 
that they cannot freeze and cause damage during the winter.  It normally 
includes putting an anti-freeze in toilets bowls and all drains.

Yes he can do it himself, particularly if he adds drain valves at low points 
to make it easy.  However, the site owner may include an insurance against 
frost damage if they carry out the work.  This may be good value if there 
are older style boilers which can be the devil to fully drain.

I declined the service when involved with a static van and did a good job 
every year.  However, unless I could combine it with the first & last use of 
the van it involved me in a 150 mile round trip to do the job.

I now do it every year on my tourer.

Watch for late frosts the can catch you out if you remove the winterisation 
too soon.

I hope that helps.

Pedro

"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Newbie to caravans"  wrote in message 
> news:Y5lgk.1688$EX5.1418@newsfe05.ams2...
>> Hi
>>
>> New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
>> My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
>> The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain 
>> down service.
>>
>> Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
>> They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.
>>
>> So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down 
>> service?
>> He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
>> Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.
>>
> Didn't he ask the manager what was meant?
>
> Mary
>
Did you bother to read my message Mary?
Do you think if he had asked the manager I would be here asking the likes of 
you?
He wasn't concerned as the end of season was a long way off.
He was simply curious as to the work involved.

Thank you to Pedro for his help.

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:28:40 +0100, "Newbie to caravans"
 wrote:

>Hi
>
>New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
>My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
>The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain 
>down service.
>
>Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
>They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.
>
>So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down 
>service?
>He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
>Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.
>
>

He turns the water off at the mains and empties the pipes, toilet and
water heater etc ;

<Newbie to newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
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>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
> news:4881e545$0$762$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
>> "Newbie to caravans"  wrote in message 
>> news:Y5lgk.1688$EX5.1418@newsfe05.ams2...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
>>> My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
>>> The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain 
>>> down service.
>>>
>>> Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
>>> They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.
>>>
>>> So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down 
>>> service?
>>> He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
>>> Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.
>>>
>> Didn't he ask the manager what was meant?
>>
>> Mary
>>
> Did you bother to read my message Mary?

LOL! Would I have replied if I hadn't?

I think it would have been a good idea to ask the manager directly what was 
involved, is there  problem with that?

> Do you think if he had asked the manager I would be here asking the likes 
> of you?

It would save asking you then your asking here then people telling you then 
you relating to your son ... that's a long winded process.

> He wasn't concerned as the end of season was a long way off.

Still is ...

> He was simply curious as to the work involved.

Perhaps he could have asked here himself as a second option.

Mary Fisher said the following on 19/07/2008 16:25:
> <Newbie to newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
> news:wvngk.6317$A42.5941@newsfe14.ams2...
>> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
>> news:4881e545$0$762$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>> "Newbie to caravans"  wrote in message 
>>> news:Y5lgk.1688$EX5.1418@newsfe05.ams2...
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
>>>> My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
>>>> The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain 
>>>> down service.
>>>>
>>>> Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
>>>> They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.
>>>>
>>>> So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down 
>>>> service?
>>>> He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
>>>> Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.
>>>>
>>> Didn't he ask the manager what was meant?
>>>
>>> Mary
>>>
>> Did you bother to read my message Mary?
> 
> LOL! Would I have replied if I hadn't?
> 
> I think it would have been a good idea to ask the manager directly what was 
> involved, is there  problem with that?
> 
>> Do you think if he had asked the manager I would be here asking the likes 
>> of you?
> 
> It would save asking you then your asking here then people telling you then 
> you relating to your son ... that's a long winded process.
> 
>> He wasn't concerned as the end of season was a long way off.
> 
> Still is ...
> 
>> He was simply curious as to the work involved.
> 
> Perhaps he could have asked here himself as a second option.
> 
> 
> 

A competent 'Handyperson' would not need to ask!

Roy

"Roy"  wrote in message 
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> A competent 'Handyperson' would not need to ask!
>
> Roy

I didn't like to suggest that :-)

Mary

Mary Fisher said the following on 19/07/2008 20:23:
> "Roy"  wrote in message 
> news:48823e29$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> 
>> A competent 'Handyperson' would not need to ask!
>>
>> Roy
> 
> I didn't like to suggest that :-)
> 
> Mary 
> 
> 
Methinks that site proprietor is a shrewed judge of character and maybe 
£65-00 better off!

Roy
(waiting for the end of school holidays)

In message , Pedro 
 writes
>
>"Newbie to caravans"  wrote in message
>news:Y5lgk.1688$EX5.1418@newsfe05.ams2...
>> Hi
>>
>> New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
>> My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
>> The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain
>> down service.
>>
>> Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
>> They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.
>>
>> So could anyone here tell me exactly what's involved in the drain down
>> service?
>> He is pretty good handyman and would rather take on the job himself.
>> Any input would be appreciated from the good people on this newsgroup.
>>
>>
>The service should consist of draining all fresh & waste water systems so
>that they cannot freeze and cause damage during the winter.  It normally
>includes putting an anti-freeze in toilets bowls and all drains.
>
>Yes he can do it himself, particularly if he adds drain valves at low points
>to make it easy.  However, the site owner may include an insurance against
>frost damage if they carry out the work.  This may be good value if there
>are older style boilers which can be the devil to fully drain.
>
>I declined the service when involved with a static van and did a good job
>every year.  However, unless I could combine it with the first & last use of
>the van it involved me in a 150 mile round trip to do the job.
>
>I now do it every year on my tourer.
>
>Watch for late frosts the can catch you out if you remove the winterisation
>too soon.
>
>I hope that helps.
>
>Pedro
>
>
And don't forget the central heating rads if you have them.
-- 
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?

My son and my family in general are completely new to caravanning so just 
wanted some friendly advice.

As I mentioned before the site manager said that he would go into more 
detail nearer the end of the season.

I was just curious as to the work involved.



It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher

And Roy.

You have shown yourselves to be petty nasty spiteful people.

Remember you were once new to caravanning at one time and would probably 
appreciate a little help.



I wish everyone here a happy and hopefully warm summer.

"Newbie Newbie newbietocaravans" <Newbie to caravans newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> 
wrote in message news:CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2...
>
>
>
>
> Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?
>
> My son and my family in general are completely new to caravanning so just wanted 
> some friendly advice.
>
> As I mentioned before the site manager said that he would go into more detail 
> nearer the end of the season.
>
> I was just curious as to the work involved.
>
>
>
> It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>
> And Roy.
>
> You have shown yourselves to be petty nasty spiteful people.
>
> Remember you were once new to caravanning at one time and would probably 
> appreciate a little help.
>
>
>
> I wish everyone here a happy and hopefully warm summer.
>
>

Another Plank to be Plonked

Mary has been on this news group for a long time

If you haven't got the wit to know what drain down at the end of the season is

You're missing a few brain cells

As a newbie you'll find some questions are tolerated

You're attitude , with a couple of days posting , puts you directly in MY SinBin

DieSea

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:41:35 +0100, "Newbie Newbie  newbietocaravans"
<Newbie to caravans newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?

>It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>
>And Roy.
>
>You have shown yourselves to be petty nasty spiteful people.
>
>Remember you were once new to caravanning at one time and would probably 
>appreciate a little help.
>
>
>
>I wish everyone here a happy and hopefully warm summer.
>

I appreciate your thanks. You have shown yourself to be a pleasant and
discerning new poster.

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:41:35 +0100, "Newbie Newbie  newbietocaravans"
<Newbie to caravans newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?
>
>My son and my family in general are completely new to caravanning so just 
>wanted some friendly advice.
>
>As I mentioned before the site manager said that he would go into more 
>detail nearer the end of the season.
>
>I was just curious as to the work involved.
>It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>And Roy.
>
>You have shown yourselves to be petty nasty spiteful people.
>
>Remember you were once new to caravanning at one time and would probably 
>appreciate a little help.
>
>I wish everyone here a happy and hopefully warm summer.
>
Newbie

If your new to caravanning perhaps you need to look at
http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk which has lots of helpful tips for
newcomers. It's aimed mainly at touring caravanners, but a lot of the
information is also appropriate to site vans.

For your original question see
http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk/caravanning/faqwinter.htm which tells you
what you need to prepare (in a touring van) prior to the winter.

Richard
See http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk where my caravan's for sale.
-- 
...and so, as the short-sighted stick insect of time attempts to mate
with the left over Twiglet of fate, and the laughing hyena of eternity
is silenced by the Joe Pasquale of doom... - Humphrey Lyttelton
closing comment in I'm sorry I haven't a clue.

In message <CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2>, Newbie Newbie 
newbietocaravans <Newbie@to.caravans.invalid> writes
>It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>
>And Roy.
Just Kill File them - then you'll find this quite a reasonable and 
helpful group

Oh and expect a rant fro Diesea if you insult the one he adores
-- 
hugh
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"hugh"  wrote in message 
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> In message <CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2>, Newbie Newbie newbietocaravans 
> <Newbie@to.caravans.invalid> writes
>>It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>>
>>And Roy.
> Just Kill File them - then you'll find this quite a reasonable and helpful group
>
> Oh and expect a rant fro Diesea if you insult the one he adores
> -- 
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

"hugh"  wrote in message 
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> In message <CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2>, Newbie Newbie newbietocaravans 
> <Newbie@to.caravans.invalid> writes
>>It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>>
>>And Roy.
> Just Kill File them - then you'll find this quite a reasonable and helpful group
>
> Oh and expect a rant fro Diesea if you insult the one he adores
> -- 
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

Careful

Next you'll be accusing Mary of having a TOYBOY

<snigger>

A new comer arrives on the NG and within a day IT starts slagging users off

A GOOD IDEA , NOT

I dont like bad language either , that's another way to get in my killfile

DieSea

"DieSea" <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote in message 
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>
>
> Next you'll be accusing Mary of having a TOYBOY

LOL! I have :-)

We've been married for 48 years ...
>
> I dont like bad language either , that's another way to get in my killfile

Same here. If people can't think of more eloquent words from our wonderful 
lexicon they obviously can't think of anything but the simplest in any area.

Mary

Try and put your self's back a few years to when you knew nothing about 
caravan's and tell me could you honestly know what drain down meant ?. I 
agree if he is a competent handyman he would know but it was the father of 
the competent handy man asking the question. I ask questions in a model 
helicopter group about terminology used as its not always clear. I also got 
hassle from diesea for answering a troll and not presenting my mail 
correctly but I will persevere with the great Mary and diesea because one 
day I'm sure they will give some positive answers if not why are they in the 
group where people are just looking for simple help not criticism.

Rob
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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> "DieSea" <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote in message 
> news:4883c627$0$2530$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>>
>> Next you'll be accusing Mary of having a TOYBOY
>
> LOL! I have :-)
>
> We've been married for 48 years ...
>>
>> I dont like bad language either , that's another way to get in my 
>> killfile
>
> Same here. If people can't think of more eloquent words from our wonderful 
> lexicon they obviously can't think of anything but the simplest in any 
> area.
>
> Mary
>
>

"R A"  wrote in message 
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> Try and put your self's back a few years to when you knew nothing about 
> caravan's and tell me could you honestly know what drain down meant ?.

The words say it all. Except that you don't need 'down'. We just 'drain' the 
system and always have - in the domestic plumbing system too.

> I agree if he is a competent handyman he would know but it was the father 
> of the competent handy man asking the question.

I did ask why the son didn't ask the manager or the group. It's open to 
everyone :-)

> I ask questions in a model helicopter group about terminology used as its 
> not always clear. I also got hassle from diesea for answering a troll and 
> not presenting my mail correctly but I will persevere with the great Mary

She's quite small in reality!

Spouse is a model plane builder and flier (has been for sixty years) and has 
fairly recently been introduced to a forum. He doesn't like much of what he 
sees there either, says there's too much criticism and mis-information. I 
don't see much of that here, mostly people are well intentioned and good 
humoured. Any others are in my kill file I suppose. I've met some members 
irl and have formed some good friendships.

> and diesea because one day I'm sure they will give some positive answers 
> if not why are they in the group where people are just looking for simple 
> help not criticism.

You obviously don't read every thread or you'd have seen some.

It's not just about help, though, is it? I thought it was about sharing all 
sorts of experiences whether solicited or not.

I don't read every thread either ...

Mary

"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
> I don't read every thread either ...
>
> Mary
>
>
I appreciate your reply Mary and it proves to me I was right to persevere, I 
take all the comments on board. I find though it takes a few post's to whey 
people up and see if there up for a bit a crack, as if there not it does 
tend to offend. Shame I'm in Diesea's kill file might have got to know him a 
bit better, Interesting to know your other half's into models I'm mainly 
helicopter building from kit, but flying ability is no more than hovering at 
the mo. I keep thinking of taking them up to the van but my dearest wont 
here of it, upsetting the neighbors etc. I bet you would snap my radio 
aerial off if I started one next to your pitch. :-) I have another hobby of 
Blackstone stationary engines, again I get the mick taken out of me for that 
to but what the hell, keeps me sane ish.

Regards

Rob

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>
>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> I don't read every thread either ...
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
> I appreciate your reply Mary and it proves to me I was right to persevere, 
> I take all the comments on board. I find though it takes a few post's to 
> whey people up and see if there up for a bit a crack, as if there not it 
> does tend to offend. Shame I'm in Diesea's kill file might have got to 
> know him a bit better, Interesting to know your other half's into models 
> I'm mainly helicopter building from kit, but flying ability is no more 
> than hovering at the mo. I keep thinking of taking them up to the van but 
> my dearest wont here of it, upsetting the neighbors etc. I bet you would 
> snap my radio aerial off if I started one next to your pitch. :-)

Since we never camp on official pitches it wouldn't bother me at all. Spouse 
is mainly gliders these days but still has a large collection of diesel 
engines - and he bought (just for fun) a ready made with an electric motor 
and has had a lot of fun with it on our daughter's Welsh farm, which isn't 
really suitable for anything bigger. He has no time for helicopters but it's 
a personal choice and since I'm not really interested in it anyway I have no 
preferences. When we married he'd been doing it since he was ten (control 
line then), I thought he'd grow out of it. How are the mighty fallen :-)

> I have another hobby of Blackstone stationary engines, again I get the 
> mick taken out of me for that to but what the hell, keeps me sane ish.

Whatever it takes! We do things which other folk can't understand but they 
don't harm anyone and we enjoy it.

While I was ironing just now I was thinking about my first entry to this 
group. We were planning to rebuild an old 'van and Spouse (an immensely 
practical man) wanted to do something he wasn't 100% sure about. I asked on 
the group and almost everyone who replied said it wouldn't work. The 
exception was someone who mailed his ideas but still wasn't sure.

He did it and it did work. He's done the same thing since with an even older 
'van, the one on the Welsh farm.

And I stuck with the group regardless of the flack :-)

Mary

R A said the following on 21/07/2008 10:24:
> Try and put your self's back a few years to when you knew nothing about 
> caravan's and tell me could you honestly know what drain down meant ?. I 
> agree if he is a competent handyman he would know but it was the father 
> of the competent handy man asking the question. I ask questions in a 
> model helicopter group about terminology used as its not always clear. I 
> also got hassle from diesea for answering a troll and not presenting my 
> mail correctly but I will persevere with the great Mary and diesea 
> because one day I'm sure they will give some positive answers if not why 
> are they in the group where people are just looking for simple help not 
> criticism.
> 
> Rob
> 

At the risk of being killfiled (again!) I thought it was the mother asking 
the question! As for stationary engines, I can see the fascination and 
reward in restoring these pieces of industrial history, so not a hobby to 
be snubbed - myself, I prefer steam engines (rail mounted). But to try and 
get back on topic - I was under the impression that this group was for 
touring caravans rather than mobile homes.

Roy

"Roy"  wrote in message 
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>R A said the following on 21/07/2008 10:24:
>> Try and put your self's back a few years to when you knew nothing about 
>> caravan's and tell me could you honestly know what drain down meant ?. I 
>> agree if he is a competent handyman he would know but it was the father 
>> of the competent handy man asking the question. I ask questions in a 
>> model helicopter group about terminology used as its not always clear. I 
>> also got hassle from diesea for answering a troll and not presenting my 
>> mail correctly but I will persevere with the great Mary and diesea 
>> because one day I'm sure they will give some positive answers if not why 
>> are they in the group where people are just looking for simple help not 
>> criticism.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
> At the risk of being killfiled (again!) I thought it was the mother asking 
> the question!

Now that I re-read the op I think I understand why. Doesn't make any 
difference though, does it?

> As for stationary engines, I can see the fascination and reward in 
> restoring these pieces of industrial history, so not a hobby to be snubbed

I agree.

> - myself, I prefer steam engines (rail mounted). But to try and get back 
> on topic - I was under the impression that this group was for touring 
> caravans rather than mobile homes.

Well perhaps but we do get questions about statics and motorhomes too - 
especially when as in this case a question is common to all of them. You're 
not trying to say the op was a troll are you?

:-)
>
> Roy

Mary Fisher said the following on 21/07/2008 16:54:

> 
> Well perhaps but we do get questions about statics and motorhomes too - 
> especially when as in this case a question is common to all of them. You're 
> not trying to say the op was a troll are you?
> 
> :-)
>> Roy 
> 
> 
Motorhomes move (or should do) so capable of touring and are usually fitted 
  with the same equipment as a caravan! :-)
Static / Mobile homes are usually found at Kiln Park! (I wonder if he ever 
sold it!) :-)

Roy

"Roy"  wrote in message 
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> Mary Fisher said the following on 21/07/2008 16:54:
>
>>
>> Well perhaps but we do get questions about statics and motorhomes too - 
>> especially when as in this case a question is common to all of them. 
>> You're not trying to say the op was a troll are you?
>>
>> :-)
>>> Roy
>>
>>
> Motorhomes move (or should do) so capable of touring and are usually 
> fitted with the same equipment as a caravan! :-)
> Static / Mobile homes are usually found at Kiln Park! (I wonder if he ever 
> sold it!) :-)

Who?

But whatever, they still need draining for winter protection. And there's a 
separate ng for motorhomes.

Mary
>

Mary Fisher said the following on 21/07/2008 17:15:
> "Roy"  wrote in message 
> news:4884b3f6$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> Mary Fisher said the following on 21/07/2008 16:54:
>>
>>> Well perhaps but we do get questions about statics and motorhomes too - 
>>> especially when as in this case a question is common to all of them. 
>>> You're not trying to say the op was a troll are you?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>> Roy
>>>
>> Motorhomes move (or should do) so capable of touring and are usually 
>> fitted with the same equipment as a caravan! :-)
>> Static / Mobile homes are usually found at Kiln Park! (I wonder if he ever 
>> sold it!) :-)
> 
> Who?

A few years back someone used to spam this group advertising his static for 
hire. I think this thread is one of them!
 
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.caravanning/browse_thread/thread/730772c5a0813be4/97336f5b80c81d8e?lnk=st&q=kiln+park#97336f5b80c81d8e

> 
> But whatever, they still need draining for winter protection. And there's a 
> separate ng for motorhomes.
> 
> Mary
> 

Unfortunately most of the Motorhomers tend to cross post to this group - to 
get an intelligent answer perhaps? :-)

Roy

"Roy"  wrote in message 
news:4884be36_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Mary Fisher said the following on 21/07/2008 17:15:
>> "Roy"  wrote in message 
>> news:4884b3f6$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>> Mary Fisher said the following on 21/07/2008 16:54:
>>>
>>>> Well perhaps but we do get questions about statics and motorhomes too - 
>>>> especially when as in this case a question is common to all of them. 
>>>> You're not trying to say the op was a troll are you?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>> Roy
>>>>
>>> Motorhomes move (or should do) so capable of touring and are usually 
>>> fitted with the same equipment as a caravan! :-)
>>> Static / Mobile homes are usually found at Kiln Park! (I wonder if he 
>>> ever sold it!) :-)
>>
>> Who?
>
> A few years back someone used to spam this group advertising his static 
> for hire. I think this thread is one of them!
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.caravanning/browse_thread/thread/730772c5a0813be4/97336f5b80c81d8e?lnk=st&q=kiln+park#97336f5b80c81d8e
>

I can't remember that, perhaps it was one of the many threads I didn't read. 
I only look at posts which I might have an interest in or something to 
offer.

Since we don't stay at official sites that wouldn't apply to this thred.

I think we'd probably better stop this dialogue on group, my address is 
valid if you want to continue. People might suggest we should get a room :-)

Mary

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:20:05 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:

 ... model aircraft...

> preferences. When we married he'd been doing it since he was ten 

many, many, years later, at what age did he start?

<VBG>

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:57:10 +0100, Roy  wrote:

>Mary Fisher said the following on 19/07/2008 20:23:
>> "Roy"  wrote in message 
>> news:48823e29$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> 
>>> A competent 'Handyperson' would not need to ask!
>>>
>>> Roy
>> 
>> I didn't like to suggest that :-)
>> 
>> Mary 
>> 
>> 
>Methinks that site proprietor is a shrewed judge of character and maybe 
>£65-00 better off!
>
>Roy
>(waiting for the end of school holidays)
 
Now, now children.
-- 

Dystopia

Dystopia said the following on 22/07/2008 15:15:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:57:10 +0100, Roy  wrote:
> 
>> Mary Fisher said the following on 19/07/2008 20:23:
>>> "Roy"  wrote in message 
>>> news:48823e29$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>
>>>> A competent 'Handyperson' would not need to ask!
>>>>
>>>> Roy
>>> I didn't like to suggest that :-)
>>>
>>> Mary 
>>>
>>>
>> Methinks that site proprietor is a shrewed judge of character and maybe 
>> £65-00 better off!
>>
>> Roy
>> (waiting for the end of school holidays)
>  
> Now, now children.

It wasn't me wot started it!

Roy

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:10:26 +0100, "DieSea"
<DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote:

>
>"Newbie Newbie newbietocaravans" <Newbie to caravans newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> 
>wrote in message news:CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?
>>
>> My son and my family in general are completely new to caravanning so just wanted 
>> some friendly advice.
>>
>> As I mentioned before the site manager said that he would go into more detail 
>> nearer the end of the season.
>>
>> I was just curious as to the work involved.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>>
>> And Roy.
>>
>> You have shown yourselves to be petty nasty spiteful people.
>>
>> Remember you were once new to caravanning at one time and would probably 
>> appreciate a little help.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish everyone here a happy and hopefully warm summer.
>>
>>
>
>Another Plank to be Plonked
>
>Mary has been on this news group for a long time
>
>If you haven't got the wit to know what drain down at the end of the season is
>
>You're missing a few brain cells
>
>As a newbie you'll find some questions are tolerated
>
>You're attitude , with a couple of days posting , puts you directly in MY SinBin
>
>DieSea

You and she plus a minority of others would appear desperate to
destroy a nice meeting place with your nasty, spiteful attacks and
pointless attacks.

A simple question was asked. If you are unwilling to be helpful then
please fuck off and take your petty selves elsewhere and leave the
rest of us to be civil to each other. Wankers.

To answer the original poster a drain down is simply draining the
water and leaving all valves and taps open in the unit, and of course
turning the mains off.

Forget about the bullshit about antifreeze etc. Some people just like
to complicate things.

As for the rude reception you got, just tell them to fuck off, they
understand language like that.

> Since we don't stay at official sites that wouldn't apply to this thred.
> Snip>
> Mary

Are you a traveller who stays in laybys or on grass verges?

John

"John"  wrote in message 
news:94240b25-ea73-45c9-bdb8-f822e66de1f9@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>> Since we don't stay at official sites that wouldn't apply to this thred.
>> Snip>
>> Mary
>
> Are you a traveller who stays in laybys or on grass verges?

No, we, like at least one other in the ng, use our 'van for living in while 
attending events.

We used to use the large tent we made but someone pestered us for years to 
sell it to them and we worked out that we wouldn't be able to pitch it for 
ever and we liked the idea of someone wanting it so we let them have it. 
We're pleased to hear that it's been used at events in Scotland, Wales and 
England but we haven't seen it since. The events we attend usually mean that 
we stay on farmers' fields. At the NEC it used to be on the Rank Village car 
park but they don't allow that any more so we don't go.

We've never ever stayed in a layby or on a verge, never thought about it, 
although we have stayed for a couple of hours in a motorway car park when 
travelling overnight to the deep s**th or far north.

Our other 'van lives permanently on a daughter's farm, between the workshop 
and the pole barn, looking out over a glorious Welsh valley. We stay in it 
when we visit because they haven't enough accommodation.

We might one day use a CL, we don't need - or want - electricity so an 
all-singing all-dancing site wouldn't suit us.

I hope that answers your question.

Mary

Stan said the following on 28/07/2008 07:37:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:10:26 +0100, "DieSea"
> <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote:
> 
>> "Newbie Newbie newbietocaravans" <Newbie to caravans newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> 
>> wrote in message news:CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?
>>>
>>> My son and my family in general are completely new to caravanning so just wanted 
>>> some friendly advice.
>>>
>>> As I mentioned before the site manager said that he would go into more detail 
>>> nearer the end of the season.
>>>
>>> I was just curious as to the work involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>>>
>>> And Roy.
>>>
>>> You have shown yourselves to be petty nasty spiteful people.
>>>
>>> Remember you were once new to caravanning at one time and would probably 
>>> appreciate a little help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wish everyone here a happy and hopefully warm summer.
>>>
>>>
>> Another Plank to be Plonked
>>
>> Mary has been on this news group for a long time
>>
>> If you haven't got the wit to know what drain down at the end of the season is
>>
>> You're missing a few brain cells
>>
>> As a newbie you'll find some questions are tolerated
>>
>> You're attitude , with a couple of days posting , puts you directly in MY SinBin
>>
>> DieSea
> 
> You and she plus a minority of others would appear desperate to
> destroy a nice meeting place with your nasty, spiteful attacks and
> pointless attacks.
> 
> A simple question was asked. If you are unwilling to be helpful then
> please fuck off and take your petty selves elsewhere and leave the
> rest of us to be civil to each other. Wankers.
> 
> To answer the original poster a drain down is simply draining the
> water and leaving all valves and taps open in the unit, and of course
> turning the mains off.
> 
> Forget about the bullshit about antifreeze etc. Some people just like
> to complicate things.
> 
> As for the rude reception you got, just tell them to fuck off, they
> understand language like that.
> 
Er - Pot, Kettle & Black

Roy

Thanks Mary. The question was slightly tongue-in-cheek.
We also use our van for events and, as you say, facilities are non-
existant but the atmosphere's fantastic.
Unlike you we also stay on official sites when on holidays. These
range from CL's to the all singing dancing type though we too find
mains is rarely needed. The exception is in the winter when I must
admit a heated van lovely.
Glad you enjoy it all.

John

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:29:28 +0100, Roy  wrote:

>Stan said the following on 28/07/2008 07:37:
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:10:26 +0100, "DieSea"
>> <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote:
>> 
>>> "Newbie Newbie newbietocaravans" <Newbie to caravans newbietocaravans@yahoo.co.uk> 
>>> wrote in message news:CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?
>>>>
>>>> My son and my family in general are completely new to caravanning so just wanted 
>>>> some friendly advice.
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned before the site manager said that he would go into more detail 
>>>> nearer the end of the season.
>>>>
>>>> I was just curious as to the work involved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's a pity though this newsgroup is spoilt by people like Mary Fisher
>>>>
>>>> And Roy.
>>>>
>>>> You have shown yourselves to be petty nasty spiteful people.
>>>>
>>>> Remember you were once new to caravanning at one time and would probably 
>>>> appreciate a little help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wish everyone here a happy and hopefully warm summer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Another Plank to be Plonked
>>>
>>> Mary has been on this news group for a long time
>>>
>>> If you haven't got the wit to know what drain down at the end of the season is
>>>
>>> You're missing a few brain cells
>>>
>>> As a newbie you'll find some questions are tolerated
>>>
>>> You're attitude , with a couple of days posting , puts you directly in MY SinBin
>>>
>>> DieSea
>> 
>> You and she plus a minority of others would appear desperate to
>> destroy a nice meeting place with your nasty, spiteful attacks and
>> pointless attacks.
>> 
>> A simple question was asked. If you are unwilling to be helpful then
>> please fuck off and take your petty selves elsewhere and leave the
>> rest of us to be civil to each other. Wankers.
>> 
>> To answer the original poster a drain down is simply draining the
>> water and leaving all valves and taps open in the unit, and of course
>> turning the mains off.
>> 
>> Forget about the bullshit about antifreeze etc. Some people just like
>> to complicate things.
>> 
>> As for the rude reception you got, just tell them to fuck off, they
>> understand language like that.
>> 
>Er - Pot, Kettle & Black
>
>Roy

You have a problem with dickheads being treated like dickheads? Work
on your personality skills, or lack of them.

On 28 Jul, 07:37, Stan  wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:10:26 +0100, "DieSea"
>
>
>
>
>
> <DieSea.NoSpamPle...@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote:
>
> >"Newbie Newbie newbietocaravans" <Newbie to caravans newbietocarav...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >wrote in messagenews:CDEgk.13948$CE1.13084@newsfe17.ams2...
>
> >> Can I thank Pedro and Artleknock for their help?
>
> >> My son and my family in general are completely new to caravanning so just wanted
> >> some friendly advice.
>
> >> As I mentioned before the site manager said that he would go into more detail
> >> nearer the end of the season.
>
> >> I was just curious as to the work involved.
>
<rude bits snipped>
>
> To answer the original poster a drain down is simply draining the
> water and leaving all valves and taps open in the unit, and of course
> turning the mains off.
>
> Forget about the bullshit about antifreeze etc. Some people just like
> to complicate things.

Adding anti freeze to the toilet bowl(s) is not bullshit.  The thermal
efficiency of a static caravan is virtually nil and if it is left
unattended over winter (and most sites enforce a gap of at least 2
months for legal reasons) then a very cold night could freeze the
water in the pan/trap and do some serious damage. Add anti freeze to
the toilet bowls (not the cisterns)

Cheers

Peter
(ex static owner)


>
> As for the rude reception you got, just tell them to fuck off, they
> understand language like that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Newbie to caravans was thinking very hard :
> New to caravans so please be gentle with me,Lol..
> My son has recently purchased a static caravan.
> The manager said that when the site closes in October they offer a drain down 
> service.
>
> Which they said he can either do himself, or they will do for £65.
> They said they would go into more detail at the end of the season.

It is simply a matter of setting the van up for the freezing cold 
weather, when any water still inside might freeze and damage or burst 
pipework etc.

Turn off the water and drain out all pipework and any water tanks 
including toilet systems or heating systems.

-- 
Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"John"  wrote in message 
news:4e3ac97c-922a-4755-9351-7116bbcca051@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks Mary. The question was slightly tongue-in-cheek.
> We also use our van for events and, as you say, facilities are non-
> existant but the atmosphere's fantastic.
> Unlike you we also stay on official sites when on holidays. These
> range from CL's to the all singing dancing type though we too find
> mains is rarely needed. The exception is in the winter when I must
> admit a heated van lovely.
> Glad you enjoy it all.
>
> John

Hello everyone, I'm back today from our cruise. We didn't need artificial 
heat even in the Arctic circle either on board or onshore. It beats any kind 
of camping :-)

Our vans are toasty warm when it's cold outside, we have gas fires, the vans 
are well insulated, gas lighting adds to the heat and because they're small 
they heat up very quickly.

Now back to Real Life :-(

Mary