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date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:28:33 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.rec.caravanning        back       
Fridge not working on gas.   
It's a RM212 that works very well on 240v.

The pilot will light without any problems, the fridge is level, but
the size of the lame does not change when you rotate the control knob.

Are there any instructions available as to how to clean the burner and
flue system or can anyone guide me through what I need to do?

Thanks

Steve
date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:28:33 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Steve Bilton

Re: Fridge not working on gas.   
"Steve Bilton"  wrote in message 
news:4d0ce786-0ca3-4af1-a171-8bd76092b00e@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> It's a RM212 that works very well on 240v.
>
> The pilot will light without any problems, the fridge is level, but
> the size of the lame does not change when you rotate the control knob.
>
> Are there any instructions available as to how to clean the burner and
> flue system or can anyone guide me through what I need to do?
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve

Don't know if the same will apply to you but a couple of years
ago my fridge stopped working and I could find nothing wrong.

Somebody told me to remove the fridge from van, turn it upside
down and leave for 24 hours then turn it back, refit it and wait
a further 24 hrs.

I was a bit sceptical but thought, what have I got to lose so I
gave it a go.

The fridge worked fine and is still doing so, something to do with
the fluids in the pipes I'm told.

It may not be the same problem with yours but like me, what have
you got to lose ??  (apart from two days)

HTH     Wally
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:46:46 +0100   author:   Wally

Re: Fridge not working on gas.   
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Wally   wrote:

> "Steve Bilton"  wrote in message
> news:4d0ce786-0ca3-4af1-a171-8bd76092b00e@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> It's a RM212 that works very well on 240v.
>>
>> The pilot will light without any problems, the fridge is level, but
>> the size of the lame does not change when you rotate the control
>> knob. Are there any instructions available as to how to clean the burner
>> and flue system or can anyone guide me through what I need to do?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Steve
>
> Don't know if the same will apply to you but a couple of years
> ago my fridge stopped working and I could find nothing wrong.
>
> Somebody told me to remove the fridge from van, turn it upside
> down and leave for 24 hours then turn it back, refit it and wait
> a further 24 hrs.
>
> I was a bit sceptical but thought, what have I got to lose so I
> gave it a go.
>
> The fridge worked fine and is still doing so, something to do with
> the fluids in the pipes I'm told.
>
> It may not be the same problem with yours but like me, what have
> you got to lose ??  (apart from two days)
>
> HTH     Wally

Surely it's not likely to be that if it works ok on mains? There's only one 
lot of fluid, but several methods of injecting heat at the appropriate point 
in the circuit. If one heating method works, the fluid circulation must be 
ok.

To the OP. Do you *know* that it doesn't cool on gas? You say that the flame 
size doesn't change with knob setting, but I'm not sure whether it's 
supposed to. I've never explicitly noticed mine doing so.
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
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date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:05:47 +0100   author:   Roger Mills

Re: Fridge not working on gas.   
On 2 Jul, 11:05, "Roger Mills"  wrote:
> Do you *know* that it doesn't cool on gas? You say that the flame
> size doesn't change with knob setting, but I'm not sure whether it's
> supposed to. I've never explicitly noticed mine doing so.

When tried on the drive at home I've left it on gas for a day with no
noticable variation in temperature, switched to 240v and left for a
day and there was ice on the ice tray. Switched back to gas and the
ice melted.

I was told that I probably needed to clean the flue/burner etc on the
gas circuit...

S
date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 03:45:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Steve Bilton

Re: Fridge not working on gas.   
Roger Mills presented the following explanation :
> To the OP. Do you *know* that it doesn't cool on gas? You say that the flame 
> size doesn't change with knob setting, but I'm not sure whether it's supposed 
> to. I've never explicitly noticed mine doing so.

They are supposed to. As you turn the temperature setting to a colder 
setting, assuming the fridge was at the correct temperature, the flame 
height should rise until the new temperature is achieved.

The business of taking the fridge out, turning it upside down etc.. was 
supposed to dissolve crystals which appear in the cooling circuit. As 
someone else pointed out - if it works on mains and works on 12v, this 
is not the problem.

If the gas flame is not going into large flame mode, then I would 
suspect the gas valve/thermostatic control as being faulty, or perhaps 
a blocked jet, poor gas pressure to the fridge. If the flame is going 
high level, I wonder if the chimney might be sooted up?

-- 
Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:24:54 +0100   author:   Harry Bloomfield

Re: Fridge not working on gas.   
Steve Bilton wrote on 02/07/2008 :
> I was told that I probably needed to clean the flue/burner etc on the
> gas circuit...

Sounds likely...

Can you check the flame and make sure it is all blue, with occasional 
yellow flecks rising in the flame?

Jets are not easy to clean, they are very fine - probably easier to 
simply buy a new one. The burner chimney should have a twisted flat 
strip inside it, intended to cause the heat from the flame to swirl 
around as it rises - it hangs down the tube from a wire. This might be 
missing, or the tube choked up with carbon deposits.

-- 
Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:30:53 +0100   author:   Harry Bloomfield

Re: Fridge not working on gas (corrected).   
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

> Steve Bilton wrote on 02/07/2008 :
> 
>> I was told that I probably needed to clean the flue/burner etc on the
>> gas circuit...
> 
> 
> Sounds likely...
> 
> Can you check the flame and make sure it is all blue, with occasional 
> yellow flecks rising in the flame?
> 
> Jets are not easy to clean, they are very fine - probably easier to 
> simply buy a new one. The burner chimney should have a twisted flat 
> strip inside it, intended to cause the heat from the flame to swirl 
> around as it rises - it hangs down the tube from a wire. This might be 
> missing, or the tube choked up with carbon deposits.

I think we're agreed that the problem's with the burner. You're correct 
in thinking that the flame size should vary (or at least that's the case 
with the RM122).

Manual here:
http://www.vdubs.freeuk.com/downloads/ElectroluxRM212.pdf
http://www.vdubs.freeuk.com/downloads/RM212Elect.pdf

(Third time lucky!)
date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:11:25 +0100   author:   Dougal

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