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date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:17:31 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.rec.caravanning        back       
twin axle   
can any of you exprienced caravanners out there advise me of the pros
and cons of towing a twin axle compared to single. is it better/worse,
easier/more difficult are there any must knows etc.
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:17:31 -0700 (PDT)   author:   MJOT

Re: twin axle   
In message 
, 
MJOT  writes
>can any of you exprienced caravanners out there advise me of the pros
>and cons of towing a twin axle compared to single. is it better/worse,
>easier/more difficult are there any must knows etc.
More stable to tow, more difficult to manoeuvre by hand especially on 
grass (to the point of being impossible).
-- 
hugh
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date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:11:38 +0100   author:   hugh

Re: twin axle   
"MJOT"  wrote in message 
news:7a400f18-8ef0-4781-a567-4dcec2eec453@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> can any of you exprienced caravanners out there advise me of the pros
> and cons of towing a twin axle compared to single. is it better/worse,
> easier/more difficult are there any must knows etc.

Obvious advantages must be better stability and less chance of a catastrophe 
if you get a puncture.

Disadvantages are more drag, more tyres to replace, nose height is critical 
to get it running right and, unless you can get the nose high or low enough 
to get one set of wheels off the ground, it's next to impossible to 
manoeuvre by hand.

Rgds

Andy R
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:30:55 +0100   author:   Andy R

Re: twin axle   
On 29 Jun, 18:30, "Andy R"  wrote:
> "MJOT"  wrote in message
>
> news:7a400f18-8ef0-4781-a567-4dcec2eec453@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > can any of you exprienced caravanners out there advise me of the pros
> > and cons of towing a twin axle compared to single. is it better/worse,
> > easier/more difficult are there any must knows etc.
>
> Obvious advantages must be better stability and less chance of a catastrophe
> if you get a puncture.
>
> Disadvantages are more drag, more tyres to replace, nose height is critical
> to get it running right and, unless you can get the nose high or low enough
> to get one set of wheels off the ground, it's next to impossible to
> manoeuvre by hand.
>
> Rgds
>
> Andy R

I once had a twin axle van, a Mardon, some years ago now - never
again! I was told by the man who does our servicing etc when we took
it for the first time for a service that stability was brilliant,
until they become unstable! " You will get NO warning when and if it
happens", he said. "I hope it never happens to you". IT DID. On a dual
carriageway at 45 mph, slowly accelerating having just joined it, the
most violent snake which I have ever experienced in over 30 years of
'vanning came on with no warning, casing the van to side-swipe a car
on my outside.
The same thing happened to friends who are equally experienced
caravanners whilst towing a brand new (3 weeks!) Avondale. That was a
total write off, the Van ending up on its side.
I should add that we had towed many miles with our Mardon, at home and
overseas, it was properly loaded and a blade stabiliser was in use.
I have since heard of other similar experiences.
date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:13:53 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Lunar475

Re: twin axle   
In message 
, 
Lunar475  writes
>On 29 Jun, 18:30, "Andy R"  wrote:
>> "MJOT"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:7a400f18-8ef0-4781-a567-4dcec2eec453@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > can any of you exprienced caravanners out there advise me of the pros
>> > and cons of towing a twin axle compared to single. is it better/worse,
>> > easier/more difficult are there any must knows etc.
>>
>> Obvious advantages must be better stability and less chance of a catastrophe
>> if you get a puncture.
>>
>> Disadvantages are more drag, more tyres to replace, nose height is critical
>> to get it running right and, unless you can get the nose high or low enough
>> to get one set of wheels off the ground, it's next to impossible to
>> manoeuvre by hand.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Andy R
>
>I once had a twin axle van, a Mardon, some years ago now - never
>again! I was told by the man who does our servicing etc when we took
>it for the first time for a service that stability was brilliant,
>until they become unstable! " You will get NO warning when and if it
>happens", he said. "I hope it never happens to you". IT DID. On a dual
>carriageway at 45 mph, slowly accelerating having just joined it, the
>most violent snake which I have ever experienced in over 30 years of
>'vanning came on with no warning, casing the van to side-swipe a car
>on my outside.
>The same thing happened to friends who are equally experienced
>caravanners whilst towing a brand new (3 weeks!) Avondale. That was a
>total write off, the Van ending up on its side.
>I should add that we had towed many miles with our Mardon, at home and
>overseas, it was properly loaded and a blade stabiliser was in use.
>I have since heard of other similar experiences.
I've had twin axles for about 20 years - never a problem Must have been 
something seriously wrong with your outfit.
Incidentally I've never heard of snakes occurring other than with NO 
warning.
The reason twins are more stable is because they inherently resist both 
pitch and yaw.

I smell a bit of a troll here.
-- 
hugh
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date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:41:11 +0100   author:   hugh

Re: twin axle   
On 29 Jun, 22:41, hugh  wrote:
> In message
> ,
> Lunar475  writes
>
> >On 29 Jun, 18:30, "Andy R"  wrote:
> >> "MJOT"  wrote in message
>
> >>news:7a400f18-8ef0-4781-a567-4dcec2eec453@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > can any of you exprienced caravanners out there advise me of the pros
> >> > and cons of towing a twin axle compared to single. is it better/worse,
> >> > easier/more difficult are there any must knows etc.
>
> >> Obvious advantages must be better stability and less chance of a catastrophe
> >> if you get a puncture.
>
> >> Disadvantages are more drag, more tyres to replace, nose height is critical
> >> to get it running right and, unless you can get the nose high or low enough
> >> to get one set of wheels off the ground, it's next to impossible to
> >> manoeuvre by hand.
>
> >> Rgds
>
> >> Andy R
>
> >I once had a twin axle van, a Mardon, some years ago now - never
> >again! I was told by the man who does our servicing etc when we took
> >it for the first time for a service that stability was brilliant,
> >until they become unstable! " You will get NO warning when and if it
> >happens", he said. "I hope it never happens to you". IT DID. On a dual
> >carriageway at 45 mph, slowly accelerating having just joined it, the
> >most violent snake which I have ever experienced in over 30 years of
> >'vanning came on with no warning, casing the van to side-swipe a car
> >on my outside.
> >The same thing happened to friends who are equally experienced
> >caravanners whilst towing a brand new (3 weeks!) Avondale. That was a
> >total write off, the Van ending up on its side.
> >I should add that we had towed many miles with our Mardon, at home and
> >overseas, it was properly loaded and a blade stabiliser was in use.
> >I have since heard of other similar experiences.
>
> I've had twin axles for about 20 years - never a problem Must have been
> something seriously wrong with your outfit.
> Incidentally I've never heard of snakes occurring other than with NO
> warning.
> The reason twins are more stable is because they inherently resist both
> pitch and yaw.
>
> I smell a bit of a troll here.
> --
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

I am definitely NOT trolling - this happened to me!
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:32:05 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Lunar475

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