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date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:23:25 GMT,    group: uk.rec.caravanning        back       
Definition of "outfit"   
What do others understand by "outfit"?

I have always used the term for the caravan and car, but the CC seem to use 
it for just the caravan (an increasing number of sites now have the footnote 
"No outfits over 28ft.")

Discuss.
-- 
Paul
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date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:23:25 GMT   author:   Paul U

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
"Paul U"  wrote in message 
news:hm72k.4132$E41.243@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> What do others understand by "outfit"?
>
> I have always used the term for the caravan and car, but the CC seem to use it 
> for just the caravan (an increasing number of sites now have the footnote "No 
> outfits over 28ft.")
>
> Discuss.
> -- 
> Paul
> NB Reply to newsgroup. Email address will get you nowhere.
>
>

I think they mean no Motor Homes over 28 feet

I've very recently booked about 40 days away with the Caravan Club

My new van is over 22+ feet over all and the car is 16 feet + over all

The length of the van has always been asked for but there never been a problem

if you've seen some of the larger motor homes on a CC sites they're monstrous

The last one I saw as at Rookesbury Park a year or two back

It was bigger than a Shearings coach and then had a 4 x 4 truck towed on a trailer 
behind it

Some one mentioned a ball park figure of £250K

DieSea
date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:36:48 +0100   author:   DieSea mm

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
>
>It was bigger than a Shearings coach and then had a 4 x 4 truck towed on a trailer 
>behind it
>

Seen one like this on Garlieston.
Warden told him he could not book on as he was to big for the pitches.  He
insisted and the warden was told by CC to put him on the grass but warn him he
would have to pay for any damage and a tow out if required.  When I left he
was sunk to the axles in mud.

The new grass area looks very nice apparently!
date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:06:58 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
wrote in message 
news:rt9i44t79atdmcpvnfgv37ph399ls3s030@4ax.com...
> >
>>It was bigger than a Shearings coach and then had a 4 x 4 truck towed on a 
>>trailer
>>behind it
>>
>
> Seen one like this on Garlieston.
> Warden told him he could not book on as he was to big for the pitches.  He
> insisted and the warden was told by CC to put him on the grass but warn him he
> would have to pay for any damage and a tow out if required.  When I left he
> was sunk to the axles in mud.
>
> The new grass area looks very nice apparently

Heavens know how much they weigh

15 Tonnes plus ??

Hope he got landed with a hefty bill

More brass than brainz

DieSea
date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:15:52 +0100   author:   DieSea mm

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
>Hope he got landed with a hefty bill

If CC stuck to their guns he did. .  
The warden was livid I know that much.
date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:32:11 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
wrote in message
news:9gbi44tmq6ei3eaqrung2dj4rrdr2ni9m2@4ax.com...
>
>>Hope he got landed with a hefty bill
>
> If CC stuck to their guns he did. .
> The warden was livid I know that much.

Perhaps the time has come for the caravan club not only to put length restrictions
on

BUT ALSO

Weight restrictions

How About a maximum of 3 1/2 tonnes per outfit to start with

Die
date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:47:29 +0100   author:   DieSea mm

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
"DieSea" <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote in message 
news:48495156$0$10641$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
>
> Perhaps the time has come for the caravan club not only to put length 
> restrictions
> on
>
> BUT ALSO
>
> Weight restrictions
>
> How About a maximum of 3 1/2 tonnes per outfit to start with
>

No thanks. Car weighs 2.25 tonnes and caravan 1.4 tonnes!

With regard to the "outfit" length, I know it has caused a lot of concern to 
my next-door neighbours, who are relatively new to this game. They even 
cancelled a stay at Baltic Wharf last year because their car/caravan were 
more than the CC "outfit" limit. I tried telling them, but . . .

-- 
Paul
NB Reply to newsgroup. Email address will get you nowhere.
date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:23:38 GMT   author:   Paul U

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
"DieSea" <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote in message 
news:48495156$0$10641$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
>
>  wrote in message
> news:9gbi44tmq6ei3eaqrung2dj4rrdr2ni9m2@4ax.com...
>>
>>>Hope he got landed with a hefty bill
>>
>> If CC stuck to their guns he did. .
>> The warden was livid I know that much.
>
> Perhaps the time has come for the caravan club not only to put length 
> restrictions
> on
>
> BUT ALSO
>
> Weight restrictions
>
> How About a maximum of 3 1/2 tonnes per outfit to start with
>
> Die

I'm losing weight!!!

Mary
>
>
>
date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:24:18 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:23:25 GMT, "Paul U"  wrote:

>What do others understand by "outfit"?
>
>I have always used the term for the caravan and car, but the CC seem to use 
>it for just the caravan (an increasing number of sites now have the footnote 
>"No outfits over 28ft.")
>
>Discuss.

With most towcars at least 15' and an A frame  at least 2' the 28'
would only allow a caravan body of 11' so the no outfits over 28'
applying to car +caravan is plainly absurd, so the only possible
reasonable interpretation is that the outfit is simply the van.
Maximum length for a caravan is about 25' plus an A frame of 2' means
that it would be an illegal caravan that exceeded the 28' so this
further clarifies the footnote to mean that it can only be applied to
motorcaravans where the overall length is over 28'
Bill Lord
I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money

e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk 
( Get rid of the spaces  and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots )
date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:34:29 +0100   author:   bill lord

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
Paul U submitted this idea :
> What do others understand by "outfit"?
>
> I have always used the term for the caravan and car, but the CC seem to use 
> it for just the caravan (an increasing number of sites now have the footnote 
> "No outfits over 28ft.")
>
> Discuss.

I have always assumed it to mean both, the car is the 'car', the 
caravan is the 'caravan'. The one when attached to the other become the 
outfit.

-- 
Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:41:20 +0100   author:   Harry Bloomfield

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
"Paul U"  wrote in news:hm72k.4132$E41.243
@text.news.virginmedia.com:

> What do others understand by "outfit"?

For my twopennyworth: "A recreational vehicle including any towing or towed 
vehicle if attached."

This covers a car + caravan, a caravan on its own, a motorhome, and a 
motorhome towing a trailer (such as a toad or boat). So "no outfits over 
28ft" means no motorhomes, caravans, or other trailers longer than this.

Presumably, the CC make an exception for a car and caravan, or motorhome 
and toad, for long enough to site up provided that when they're unhitched 
no part of the combination is longer than the maximum permitted length.

Geoff
date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:03:10 -0500   author:   Geoff Lane lid

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:23:25 GMT, "Paul U"  wrote:

>What do others understand by "outfit"?
>
>I have always used the term for the caravan and car, but the CC seem to use 
>it for just the caravan (an increasing number of sites now have the footnote 
>"No outfits over 28ft.")
>
>Discuss.
Rather than discuss, have you tried asking the CC?

Richard
See http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk where my caravan's for sale.
-- 
Candidates for the Tyrantship were elected by the placing of black or
white balls in various urns, thus giving rise to a well-known comment
about politics. - 'Small Gods' by Terry Pratchett
date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:36:48 +0100   author:   Richard Cole lid

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
In message , Geoff 
Lane <geoff@nospam.invalid> writes
>"Paul U"  wrote in news:hm72k.4132$E41.243
>@text.news.virginmedia.com:
>
>> What do others understand by "outfit"?
>
>For my twopennyworth: "A recreational vehicle including any towing or towed
>vehicle if attached."
>
>This covers a car + caravan, a caravan on its own, a motorhome, and a
>motorhome towing a trailer (such as a toad or boat). So "no outfits over
>28ft" means no motorhomes, caravans, or other trailers longer than this.
>
>Presumably, the CC make an exception for a car and caravan, or motorhome
>and toad, for long enough to site up provided that when they're unhitched
>no part of the combination is longer than the maximum permitted length.
>
>Geoff
Is a caravan a vehicle?
-- 
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:50:31 +0100   author:   hugh

Re: Definition of "outfit"   
hugh  wrote in news:WT9H8iGnKwSIFA4Y@raefell.demon.co.uk:

> Is a caravan a vehicle?

Yes. However, it is not a motor vehicle.
date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:14:02 -0500   author:   Geoff Lane lid

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