We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
Our self assembly double bed in the van is so hard, we find it almost 
impossible to sleep on.  Hence we always put an air bed on the top of it 
which works very well for 6-8 nights only before the punctures start.
Unfortunately, last season we got through 4 of the things and following only 
two weekends away this year (and a new £49 double), we're punctured again.
Of course we try putting patches on them, but without fail the things let us 
down after a couple of hours.
Last year we even tried one of those double layer big settees (£75) which 
was great for two nights only - ever tried sticking patches on that velour? 
Well we can't get them to stay put even though instructions were followed to 
the letter.
I must say at this point, we are two average sized adults who simply want to 
sleep on the darned things - no more, no less. We are very careful not to 
over fill them too.
Now he's on about filling them with that white stuff he fills his bike tyres 
with! HELP!

Have you had the same problem and how have you resolved it?

Thank you for your help,
Dribbler (aka Kay)

"Dribbler"  wrote in message 
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> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
> Our self assembly double bed in the van is so hard, we find it almost 
> impossible to sleep on.  Hence we always put an air bed on the top of it 
> which works very well for 6-8 nights only before the punctures start.
> Unfortunately, last season we got through 4 of the things and following 
> only two weekends away this year (and a new £49 double), we're punctured 
> again.
> Of course we try putting patches on them, but without fail the things let 
> us down after a couple of hours.
> Last year we even tried one of those double layer big settees (£75) which 
> was great for two nights only - ever tried sticking patches on that 
> velour? Well we can't get them to stay put even though instructions were 
> followed to the letter.
> I must say at this point, we are two average sized adults who simply want 
> to ....

......have wild uninhibited sex?


> Now he's on about filling them with that white stuff he fills his bike 
> tyres with! HELP!



If he really *is* filling his cycle tyres with 'the white stuff', then 
you're right! - help is needed, and it's needed immediately!

We live in an extremely permissive society, it's ue - but he'll end up in 
Broadmoor if this goes one!

"Out Of Africa"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Dribbler"  wrote in message 
> news:693i72F2vudbsU1@mid.individual.net...
>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
>> Our self assembly double bed in the van is so hard, we find it almost 
>> impossible to sleep on.  Hence we always put an air bed on the top of it 
>> which works very well for 6-8 nights only before the punctures start.
>> Unfortunately, last season we got through 4 of the things and following 
>> only two weekends away this year (and a new £49 double), we're punctured 
>> again.
>> Of course we try putting patches on them, but without fail the things let 
>> us down after a couple of hours.
>> Last year we even tried one of those double layer big settees (£75) which 
>> was great for two nights only - ever tried sticking patches on that 
>> velour? Well we can't get them to stay put even though instructions were 
>> followed to the letter.
>> I must say at this point, we are two average sized adults who simply want 
>> to ....
>
> ......have wild uninhibited sex?
>
>
>> Now he's on about filling them with that white stuff he fills his bike 
>> tyres with! HELP!
>
>
>
> If he really *is* filling his cycle tyres with 'the white stuff', then 
> you're right! - help is needed, and it's needed immediately!
>
> We live in an extremely permissive society, it's ue - but he'll end up in 
> Broadmoor if this goes one!
>
------------------
You are very naughty. Post-puncture liquid tyre sealant is the white stuff I 
meant ;-)

Dribbler

Dribbler wrote:
> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
> Our self assembly double bed in the van is so hard, we find it almost 
> impossible to sleep on.  Hence we always put an air bed on the top of it 
> which works very well for 6-8 nights only before the punctures start.
> Unfortunately, last season we got through 4 of the things and following 
> only two weekends away this year (and a new £49 double), we're punctured 
> again.
> Of course we try putting patches on them, but without fail the things 
> let us down after a couple of hours.
> Last year we even tried one of those double layer big settees (£75) 
> which was great for two nights only - ever tried sticking patches on 
> that velour? Well we can't get them to stay put even though instructions 
> were followed to the letter.
> I must say at this point, we are two average sized adults who simply 
> want to sleep on the darned things - no more, no less. We are very 
> careful not to over fill them too.
> Now he's on about filling them with that white stuff he fills his bike 
> tyres with! HELP!
> 
> Have you had the same problem and how have you resolved it?
> 
> Thank you for your help,
> Dribbler (aka Kay)
> 


Easy solution - don't buy the velour air beds.  Is yours the kind of 
thing that is made by JML and sold in Wilkinsons etc?  About a tenner each?

Buy a rubber based air bed - Argos used to do them, they are normally 
blue, red or blue and red.  Ideally you want the box sided version, I 
find I am less prone to rolling off of them!  They look like an old 
fashioned lilo but made of rubber coated cotton (cotton on the outside!)

If you sleep in sleeping bags they are fine, if you use blankets/duvet, 
put a thick blanket over the air bed first then a cotton sheet otherwise 
you'll sweat to death in the night!

All of the light weight air beds and air mattresses that I have seen of 
late have looked pretty naf and likely to split fairly easily.  The 
rubber/cotton airbeds are quite heavy and usually more expensive in 
comparrison but they last for years - even when folded up.  Ideally you 
need to put a bit of talc into the air bed once a year just to keep the 
inside coated and stop it from perishing.  That said we have one that 
hasn't been treated for years and that still holds air ok.  When we are 
camping I find I need to top up the air bed to keep it at the degree of 
firmness that I like every 4 days.



regards


Dudley

On 16 May, 09:21, Dudley Simons  wrote:
> Dribbler wrote:
> > We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
> > Our self assembly double bed in the van is so hard, we find it almost
> > impossible to sleep on.  Hence we always put an air bed on the top of it> > which works very well for 6-8 nights only before the punctures start.
> > Unfortunately, last season we got through 4 of the things and following
> > only two weekends away this year (and a new £49 double), we're punctured
> > again.
> > Of course we try putting patches on them, but without fail the things
> > let us down after a couple of hours.
> > Last year we even tried one of those double layer big settees (£75)
> > which was great for two nights only - ever tried sticking patches on
> > that velour? Well we can't get them to stay put even though instructions> > were followed to the letter.
> > I must say at this point, we are two average sized adults who simply
> > want to sleep on the darned things - no more, no less. We are very
> > careful not to over fill them too.
> > Now he's on about filling them with that white stuff he fills his bike
> > tyres with! HELP!
>
> > Have you had the same problem and how have you resolved it?
>
> > Thank you for your help,
> > Dribbler (aka Kay)
>
> Easy solution - don't buy the velour air beds.  Is yours the kind of
> thing that is made by JML and sold in Wilkinsons etc?  About a tenner each> Buy a rubber based air bed - Argos used to do them, they are normally
> blue, red or blue and red.  Ideally you want the box sided version, I
> find I am less prone to rolling off of them!  They look like an old
> fashioned lilo but made of rubber coated cotton (cotton on the outside!)
>
> If you sleep in sleeping bags they are fine, if you use blankets/duvet,
> put a thick blanket over the air bed first then a cotton sheet otherwise
> you'll sweat to death in the night!
>
> All of the light weight air beds and air mattresses that I have seen of
> late have looked pretty naf and likely to split fairly easily.  The
> rubber/cotton airbeds are quite heavy and usually more expensive in
> comparrison but they last for years - even when folded up.  Ideally you
> need to put a bit of talc into the air bed once a year just to keep the
> inside coated and stop it from perishing.  That said we have one that
> hasn't been treated for years and that still holds air ok.  When we are
> camping I find I need to top up the air bed to keep it at the degree of
> firmness that I like every 4 days.
>
> regards
>
> Dudley

We have no problem with the cushions in our Avondale, but friends with
similar difficulties to yours have purchased
some memory foam about 4-6 ins thick, and use that  on top of the
standard mattress.

"Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
> Dribbler wrote:
>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
cut
 >> Have you had the same problem and how have you resolved it?
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>> Dribbler (aka Kay)
--------------------
> Easy solution - don't buy the velour air beds.  Is yours the kind of thing 
> that is made by JML and sold in Wilkinsons etc?  About a tenner each?
>
> Buy a rubber based air bed - Argos used to do them, they are normally 
> blue, red or blue and red.  Ideally you want the box sided version, I find 
> I am less prone to rolling off of them!  They look like an old fashioned 
> lilo but made of rubber coated cotton (cotton on the outside!)
>
> If you sleep in sleeping bags they are fine, if you use blankets/duvet, 
> put a thick blanket over the air bed first then a cotton sheet otherwise 
> you'll sweat to death in the night!
>
> All of the light weight air beds and air mattresses that I have seen of 
> late have looked pretty naf and likely to split fairly easily.  The 
> rubber/cotton airbeds are quite heavy and usually more expensive in 
> comparrison but they last for years - even when folded up.  Ideally you 
> need to put a bit of talc into the air bed once a year just to keep the 
> inside coated and stop it from perishing.  That said we have one that 
> hasn't been treated for years and that still holds air ok.  When we are 
> camping I find I need to top up the air bed to keep it at the degree of 
> firmness that I like every 4 days.

> regards

> Dudley
---------------
Thank you Dudley, now I know where we're going wrong. We have always paid 
around the £50 mark, but they have been been vinyl with that velvety 
flocking on the top. I've looked at the Argos and John Lewis range; Aerobed 
seems to be the make they favour. However, they don't look like the 
rubber/cotton type.
Is this what you mean? 
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0690575/Trail/searchtext%3EINFLATABLE+BED.htm
I'd love to know the name/make of your one please, we're off this weekend 
and we're dreading another two sleepless nights.
Thank you,
Kay

"Lunar475"  wrote in message 
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<snipped>

We have no problem with the cushions in our Avondale, but friends with
similar difficulties to yours have purchased
some memory foam about 4-6 ins thick, and use that  on top of the
standard mattress.


I also use memory foam - works a treat. Stuff we've got is only an inch or 
two thick but it's amazing the difference

Dribbler wrote:
> 
> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
> news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>> Dribbler wrote:
>>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
> cut
>  >> Have you had the same problem and how have you resolved it?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your help,
>>> Dribbler (aka Kay)
> --------------------
>> Easy solution - don't buy the velour air beds.  Is yours the kind of 
>> thing that is made by JML and sold in Wilkinsons etc?  About a tenner 
>> each?
>>
>> Buy a rubber based air bed - Argos used to do them, they are normally 
>> blue, red or blue and red.  Ideally you want the box sided version, I 
>> find I am less prone to rolling off of them!  They look like an old 
>> fashioned lilo but made of rubber coated cotton (cotton on the outside!)
>>
>> If you sleep in sleeping bags they are fine, if you use 
>> blankets/duvet, put a thick blanket over the air bed first then a 
>> cotton sheet otherwise you'll sweat to death in the night!
>>
>> All of the light weight air beds and air mattresses that I have seen 
>> of late have looked pretty naf and likely to split fairly easily.  The 
>> rubber/cotton airbeds are quite heavy and usually more expensive in 
>> comparrison but they last for years - even when folded up.  Ideally 
>> you need to put a bit of talc into the air bed once a year just to 
>> keep the inside coated and stop it from perishing.  That said we have 
>> one that hasn't been treated for years and that still holds air ok.  
>> When we are camping I find I need to top up the air bed to keep it at 
>> the degree of firmness that I like every 4 days.
> 
>> regards
> 
>> Dudley
> ---------------
> Thank you Dudley, now I know where we're going wrong. We have always 
> paid around the £50 mark, but they have been been vinyl with that 
> velvety flocking on the top. I've looked at the Argos and John Lewis 
> range; Aerobed seems to be the make they favour. However, they don't 
> look like the rubber/cotton type.
> Is this what you mean? 
> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0690575/Trail/searchtext%3EINFLATABLE+BED.htm 
> 
> I'd love to know the name/make of your one please, we're off this 
> weekend and we're dreading another two sleepless nights.
> Thank you,
> Kay
> 
> 
> 





this is the one you want

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3402825/Trail/searchtext%3EAIR+BED.htm

the real trick to a good noghts sleep on one - other than putting a 
blanket over it to stop you sweating, is to get the pressure just right. 
  Start hard and deflate slowly - true for so many things in life ;o)




regards



Dudley

Dribbler wrote:
> 
> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
> news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>> Dribbler wrote:
>>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
> cut
>  >> Have you had the same problem and how have you resolved it?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your help,
>>> Dribbler (aka Kay)
> --------------------
>> Easy solution - don't buy the velour air beds.  Is yours the kind of 
>> thing that is made by JML and sold in Wilkinsons etc?  About a tenner 
>> each?
>>
>> Buy a rubber based air bed - Argos used to do them, they are normally 
>> blue, red or blue and red.  Ideally you want the box sided version, I 
>> find I am less prone to rolling off of them!  They look like an old 
>> fashioned lilo but made of rubber coated cotton (cotton on the outside!)
>>
>> If you sleep in sleeping bags they are fine, if you use 
>> blankets/duvet, put a thick blanket over the air bed first then a 
>> cotton sheet otherwise you'll sweat to death in the night!
>>
>> All of the light weight air beds and air mattresses that I have seen 
>> of late have looked pretty naf and likely to split fairly easily.  The 
>> rubber/cotton airbeds are quite heavy and usually more expensive in 
>> comparrison but they last for years - even when folded up.  Ideally 
>> you need to put a bit of talc into the air bed once a year just to 
>> keep the inside coated and stop it from perishing.  That said we have 
>> one that hasn't been treated for years and that still holds air ok.  
>> When we are camping I find I need to top up the air bed to keep it at 
>> the degree of firmness that I like every 4 days.
> 
>> regards
> 
>> Dudley
> ---------------
> Thank you Dudley, now I know where we're going wrong. We have always 
> paid around the £50 mark, but they have been been vinyl with that 
> velvety flocking on the top. I've looked at the Argos and John Lewis 
> range; Aerobed seems to be the make they favour. However, they don't 
> look like the rubber/cotton type.
> Is this what you mean? 
> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0690575/Trail/searchtext%3EINFLATABLE+BED.htm 
> 
> I'd love to know the name/make of your one please, we're off this 
> weekend and we're dreading another two sleepless nights.
> Thank you,
> Kay
> 
> 
> 


oh and one other thing - not sure if you are using a double or two 
singles.  Two singles is by far the better way to go as it avoids the 
trampolining effect of a well inflated double!

"Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
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> Dribbler wrote:
>>
>> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
>> news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>> Dribbler wrote:
>>>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent one?
>> cut
-----------
this is the one you want
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3402825/Trail/searchtext%3EAIR+BED.htm

the real trick to a good noghts sleep on one - other than putting a
blanket over it to stop you sweating, is to get the pressure just right.
  Start hard and deflate slowly - true for so many things in life ;o)
> oh and one other thing - not sure if you are using a double or two 
> singles.  Two singles is by far the better way to go as it avoids the 
> trampolining effect of a well inflated double!
Dudley
-----------------

Hello Dudley,
Thank you very much indeed  for the link to Argos's rubberised single. I 
think you are right about having two singles and that's exactly what I'll 
buy from Argos come Monday morning.
Many, many thanks for your help and advice,
Kay

"Dribbler"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
> news:g0k3q9$8bf$2@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>> Dribbler wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
>>> news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>> Dribbler wrote:
>>>>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent 
>>>>> one?
>>> cut
> -----------
> this is the one you want
> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3402825/Trail/searchtext%3EAIR+BED.htm
>
> the real trick to a good noghts sleep on one - other than putting a
> blanket over it to stop you sweating, is to get the pressure just right.
>  Start hard and deflate slowly - true for so many things in life ;o)
>> oh and one other thing - not sure if you are using a double or two 
>> singles.  Two singles is by far the better way to go as it avoids the 
>> trampolining effect of a well inflated double!
> Dudley
> -----------------
>
> Hello Dudley,
> Thank you very much indeed  for the link to Argos's rubberised single. I 
> think you are right about having two singles and that's exactly what I'll 
> buy from Argos come Monday morning.
> Many, many thanks for your help and advice,
> Kay

We are also fans of the rubberised canvas airbeds, but we do use a double. 
We replaced our one last year after about 15 years.

Neb

Nebulous wrote:
> "Dribbler"  wrote in message 
> news:69ar2nF32lf3jU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
>> news:g0k3q9$8bf$2@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>> Dribbler wrote:
>>>> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>>> Dribbler wrote:
>>>>>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent 
>>>>>> one?
>>>> cut
>> -----------
>> this is the one you want
>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3402825/Trail/searchtext%3EAIR+BED.htm
>>
>> the real trick to a good noghts sleep on one - other than putting a
>> blanket over it to stop you sweating, is to get the pressure just right.
>>  Start hard and deflate slowly - true for so many things in life ;o)
>>> oh and one other thing - not sure if you are using a double or two 
>>> singles.  Two singles is by far the better way to go as it avoids the 
>>> trampolining effect of a well inflated double!
>> Dudley
>> -----------------
>>
>> Hello Dudley,
>> Thank you very much indeed  for the link to Argos's rubberised single. I 
>> think you are right about having two singles and that's exactly what I'll 
>> buy from Argos come Monday morning.
>> Many, many thanks for your help and advice,
>> Kay
> 
> We are also fans of the rubberised canvas airbeds, but we do use a double. 
> We replaced our one last year after about 15 years.
> 
> Neb 
> 
> 



I guess you must be heavy sleepers, light in weight and both like a rock 
hard or a virtually fully deflated airbed!

 From past experience on a double airbed, everytime one person rolls 
over or moves around the other person goes up and down.  If one person 
gets out of bed in the night getting back on the airbed without bouncing 
and waking the other person is near impossible!

"Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...

...
>
> Buy a rubber based air bed - Argos used to do them, they are normally 
> blue, red or blue and red.  Ideally you want the box sided version, I find 
> I am less prone to rolling off of them!  They look like an old fashioned 
> lilo but made of rubber coated cotton (cotton on the outside!)
>
> If you sleep in sleeping bags they are fine, if you use blankets/duvet, 
> put a thick blanket over the air bed first then a cotton sheet otherwise 
> you'll sweat to death in the night!

Or freeze.
>
>  The rubber/cotton airbeds are quite heavy and usually more expensive in 
> comparrison but they last for years - even when folded up.  Ideally you 
> need to put a bit of talc into the air bed once a year just to keep the 
> inside coated and stop it from perishing.  That said we have one that 
> hasn't been treated for years and that still holds air ok.  When we are 
> camping I find I need to top up the air bed to keep it at the degree of 
> firmness that I like every 4 days.

We used ours for about twenty years and it's still being used by the folk 
who bought our trailer tent. We never used talc and never needed to top up 
the air.

I can't understand why an air bed is puncturing though - unless it's a poor 
quality one..

Mary
>
>
>
> regards
>
>
> Dudley

"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Lunar475"  wrote in message 
> news:edba1e33-a32e-4a36-a079-f7b247fd68c1@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> <snipped>
>
> We have no problem with the cushions in our Avondale, but friends with
> similar difficulties to yours have purchased
> some memory foam about 4-6 ins thick, and use that  on top of the
> standard mattress.
>
>
> I also use memory foam - works a treat. Stuff we've got is only an inch or 
> two thick but it's amazing the difference

How do you store it between trips?

Mary
>
>

"Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
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> Nebulous wrote:
>> "Dribbler"  wrote in message 
>> news:69ar2nF32lf3jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
>>> news:g0k3q9$8bf$2@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>> Dribbler wrote:
>>>>> "Dudley Simons"  wrote in message 
>>>>> news:g0jg6a$fq1$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>>>>>> Dribbler wrote:
>>>>>>> We're going mad with puncturing air beds - have you found a decent 
>>>>>>> one?
>>>>> cut
>>> -----------
>>> this is the one you want
>>> http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3402825/Trail/searchtext%3EAIR+BED.htm
>>>
>>> the real trick to a good noghts sleep on one - other than putting a
>>> blanket over it to stop you sweating, is to get the pressure just right.
>>>  Start hard and deflate slowly - true for so many things in life ;o)
>>>> oh and one other thing - not sure if you are using a double or two 
>>>> singles.  Two singles is by far the better way to go as it avoids the 
>>>> trampolining effect of a well inflated double!
>>> Dudley
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> Hello Dudley,
>>> Thank you very much indeed  for the link to Argos's rubberised single. I 
>>> think you are right about having two singles and that's exactly what 
>>> I'll buy from Argos come Monday morning.
>>> Many, many thanks for your help and advice,
>>> Kay
>>
>> We are also fans of the rubberised canvas airbeds, but we do use a 
>> double. We replaced our one last year after about 15 years.
>>
>> Neb
>
>
>
> I guess you must be heavy sleepers, light in weight and both like a rock 
> hard or a virtually fully deflated airbed!
>
> From past experience on a double airbed, everytime one person rolls over 
> or moves around the other person goes up and down.  If one person gets out 
> of bed in the night getting back on the airbed without bouncing and waking 
> the other person is near impossible!

None of those apply really - I'm about 16 stone and my wife is probably 
about 12. (I'm afraid to ask!)   The airbed needs to be reasonably soft for 
comfort anyway, but you need to ensure it doesn't ground at any point with 
only one person on it. Getting up overnight works if you lower your weight 
onto it gradually. Standing on it or plonking down suddenly is a definite 
no! I suppose lots of practice helps.

We sleep much better away on the airbed than we do at home - all that fresh 
air and exercise I think.

Neb

Mary Fisher wrote:
>
> I can't understand why an air bed is puncturing though - unless it's
> a poor quality one..
>

that may be the problem, we've had a few argos specials plastic, not rubber, 
and they are rubbish!

tony h wrote:
> Mary Fisher wrote:
>> I can't understand why an air bed is puncturing though - unless it's
>> a poor quality one..
>>
> 
> that may be the problem, we've had a few argos specials plastic, not rubber, 
> and they are rubbish! 
> 
> 


I think you'll find that if they 'puncture' when they are folded up for 
storage as owners will probably want to pack the bed down into as small 
a space as possible.. To do that you need to make some fairly sharp 
creases in the vinyl which is (imho) where the problems begin.