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date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:29:30 +0100,    group: uk.rec.caravanning        back       
Cobb   
Anyone used one?

If you have you'll know what I'm talking about :-)

Mary
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:29:30 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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> Anyone used one?
>
> If you have you'll know what I'm talking about :-)
>
> Mary
>

Yes, and it is excellent.

Have only used it with Cobble Stones so far, doing casserole type dishes (IE 
no BBQ/frying/grilling) but very pleased with the purchase.

Only down side is that when sat using it in a cold awning it is so efficient 
at retaining heat that the chef freezes!

Upside is that I can use it on my plastic topped table without fear of it 
melting, and I'm relaxed when the kids are around it as the outside is cool.

Mark
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:11:28 GMT   author:   Mark Pewsey

Re: Cobb   
"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
> news:4810dfcd$0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>> Anyone used one?
>>
>> If you have you'll know what I'm talking about :-)
>>
>> Mary
>>
>
> Yes, and it is excellent.
>
> Have only used it with Cobble Stones so far, doing casserole type dishes 
> (IE no BBQ/frying/grilling) but very pleased with the purchase.
>
> Only down side is that when sat using it in a cold awning it is so 
> efficient at retaining heat that the chef freezes!
>
> Upside is that I can use it on my plastic topped table without fear of it 
> melting, and I'm relaxed when the kids are around it as the outside is 
> cool.
>
> Mark

That's very interesting, thank you. Since I'd never heard of it until 
yesterday I'd like to know more about it. i looked at the website but was 
confused, it seemed to assume that people knew what they wanted and there 
was little explanation.

Mary
>
>
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:15:23 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
<snipped>
>
> That's very interesting, thank you. Since I'd never heard of it until 
> yesterday I'd like to know more about it. i looked at the website but was 
> confused, it seemed to assume that people knew what they wanted and there 
> was little explanation.
>
> Mary

Which site are you looking at Mary?

I know of two:

http://www.cobbglobal.com/

or

http://cobb-bbq.co.uk/

The global site is particularly good, whilst I bought mine from the UK one - 
got the full monty at a special Christmas discounted price. Sorry, looks 
like that offer is over.

If you have ever watched the Hairy Bikers cookery/travel shows you will have 
seen them using them a lot. That's where I first came across them and 
decided I wanted one.

They just refer to them as a charcoal oven, which is pretty much all I've 
used mine as so far, but they can be seen grilling/BBQing on them as well. 
Their web site does not show them in use though, but does link to one of the 
two sites above - the UK one I think.

The earlier shows use the original model, while the latest series have the 
new one.

They are doing a two part special Hairy Bikers Come Home on one of the 
terrestrial channels at the moment, and they use two of them up on Hardnot 
Pass in the Lakes to cook rosti and stuffed chicken breasts. This was on one 
of the more obscure channels a few months ago as a one hour special and it's 
where they visit Cumbria and then end up in Newcastle via the Lakes and 
Northumberland showing where the two lads roots are.

As I said before, I've only used the Cobblestones as fuel, and they are very 
good. Really smoky and smelly when you first light them, but very clean 
after just a few minutes. Last just under two hours. I will also be trying 
it soon with charcoal briquettes which I reckon would allow some control 
over heat output and burn time - you don't always want two hours worth of 
cooking time.
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:00:34 GMT   author:   Mark Pewsey

Re: Cobb   
I have had a cobb for a couple of years now, I think it excellent piece of 
kit easy to use, can cook allsorts on it, it easy to clean and after tea if 
its a bit chilly leave the lid of and it glows nicely to keep the chill off 
:-) My brother came to visit up at the van one weekend and he has also now 
bought one. This year they have brought out a new fuel like a solid block 
but I haven't used them yet as I still have a few backs of cobbles to use 
up. 10/10 for me.

Rob
"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
> news:48119350$0$762$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
> <snipped>
>>
>> That's very interesting, thank you. Since I'd never heard of it until 
>> yesterday I'd like to know more about it. i looked at the website but was 
>> confused, it seemed to assume that people knew what they wanted and there 
>> was little explanation.
>>
>> Mary
>
> Which site are you looking at Mary?
>
> I know of two:
>
> http://www.cobbglobal.com/
>
> or
>
> http://cobb-bbq.co.uk/
>
> The global site is particularly good, whilst I bought mine from the UK 
> one - got the full monty at a special Christmas discounted price. Sorry, 
> looks like that offer is over.
>
> If you have ever watched the Hairy Bikers cookery/travel shows you will 
> have seen them using them a lot. That's where I first came across them and 
> decided I wanted one.
>
> They just refer to them as a charcoal oven, which is pretty much all I've 
> used mine as so far, but they can be seen grilling/BBQing on them as well. 
> Their web site does not show them in use though, but does link to one of 
> the two sites above - the UK one I think.
>
> The earlier shows use the original model, while the latest series have the 
> new one.
>
> They are doing a two part special Hairy Bikers Come Home on one of the 
> terrestrial channels at the moment, and they use two of them up on Hardnot 
> Pass in the Lakes to cook rosti and stuffed chicken breasts. This was on 
> one of the more obscure channels a few months ago as a one hour special 
> and it's where they visit Cumbria and then end up in Newcastle via the 
> Lakes and Northumberland showing where the two lads roots are.
>
> As I said before, I've only used the Cobblestones as fuel, and they are 
> very good. Really smoky and smelly when you first light them, but very 
> clean after just a few minutes. Last just under two hours. I will also be 
> trying it soon with charcoal briquettes which I reckon would allow some 
> control over heat output and burn time - you don't always want two hours 
> worth of cooking time.
>
>
>
>
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:40:36 +0100   author:   R A

Re: Cobb   
P.s. I use the Australian brickets at the moment for fuel, and just as a 
note be carefull cleaning the grill pan/top as I used a pad that took of the 
protective coating, I got a new one for £20 and only use fairy liquid and it 
cleans fine.

Rob
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:51:26 +0100   author:   R A

Re: Cobb   
"R A"  wrote in message 
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> P.s. I use the Australian brickets at the moment for fuel, and just as a 
> note be carefull cleaning the grill pan/top as I used a pad that took of 
> the protective coating, I got a new one for £20 and only use fairy liquid 
> and it cleans fine.
>
> Rob

Noted - thanks!

Mark
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:45:10 GMT   author:   Mark Pewsey

Re: Cobb   
"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
> news:48119350$0$762$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
> <snipped>
>>
>> That's very interesting, thank you. Since I'd never heard of it until 
>> yesterday I'd like to know more about it. i looked at the website but was 
>> confused, it seemed to assume that people knew what they wanted and there 
>> was little explanation.
>>
>> Mary
>
> Which site are you looking at Mary?
>
> I know of two:
>
> http://www.cobbglobal.com/
>
> or
>
> http://cobb-bbq.co.uk/

That one!
>
> The global site is particularly good, whilst I bought mine from the UK 
> one - got the full monty at a special Christmas discounted price. Sorry, 
> looks like that offer is over.

I'm not thinking of buying one right now but a friend is very enthusiastic - 
she uses it in her kitchen - and the website said it was good for campers. 
It would certainly take up less room in out 10' 'van than the gas barbecue 
but I wonder if it has the same capacity.
>
> If you have ever watched the Hairy Bikers cookery/travel shows you will 
> have seen them using them a lot. That's where I first came across them and 
> decided I wanted one.

I haven't - we haven't a tv.
>
>
> As I said before, I've only used the Cobblestones as fuel, and they are 
> very good. Really smoky and smelly when you first light them, but very 
> clean after just a few minutes. Last just under two hours. I will also be 
> trying it soon with charcoal briquettes which I reckon would allow some 
> control over heat output and burn time - you don't always want two hours 
> worth of cooking time.

You see that was one of my  problems with the site, it didn't explain what a 
cobblestone was ... or anything really. I need to know more. The company's 
address is in Bucks but there's no mention of regional outlets - I'd 
certainly want to see the thing first and be able to ask questions. And no, 
I can't get to the Game Fair or the other event!

Where did you get yours?

Mary
>
>
>
>
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:30:33 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
<snip>

>>
>> Which site are you looking at Mary?
>>
>> I know of two:
>>
>> http://www.cobbglobal.com/
>>
>> or
>>
>> http://cobb-bbq.co.uk/
>
> That one!

The cobglobal site has much more information on it. It is US based but a lot 
of Brits have posted there too.

<snip>

> I'm not thinking of buying one right now but a friend is very 
> enthusiastic - she uses it in her kitchen -

I hope she is keeping the kitchen VERY well ventilated - these things give 
off carbon monoxide.

> and the website said it was good for campers. It would certainly take up 
> less room in out 10' 'van than the gas barbecue but I wonder if it has the 
> same capacity.
>

All I can say to that is that the cooking area is about a foot in diameter. 
I can't say if that is enough for you or not, but I use mine for a family of 
four without issue.

I got the full kit - the only thing I don't have is the stainless steel 
bowl - and everything packs away into a bag just over a foot in diameter and 
about the same high. That's the base, lid, all the different cooking 
surfaces, gas lighters, fuel, cook book, spoons, spatulas etc.

For a day out I can leave out those bits I don't need and there's room for 
fuel and even the food I intend to cook if required.

I'm sure one of those two web sites will have the exact dimensions, 
including the weight.

I used to use a gas barbecue - that has now been relegated to the garage.

<snipped>

> You see that was one of my  problems with the site, it didn't explain what 
> a cobblestone was ... or anything really.

It does. Look at the Specifications & Video page of the UK site.
A cobblestone is a fuel brick, an alternative to charcoal briquettes. It is 
made, apparently, of coconut fibres impregated with charcoal and looks like 
a disk about 4" across of charcoal. It has a coating that acts as the fire 
lighter, so you don't need separate fire lighters. That's what smokes like 
crazy for a few minutes. Apart from that it acts and looks just like 
charcoal except it doesn't disintegrate into dust and ashes when burnt.
It comes in different size boxes, and each one is individually wrapped so 
you can pack away just those that you need without everything getting messy.


>I need to know more. The company's address is in Bucks but there's no 
>mention of regional outlets - I'd certainly want to see the thing first and 
>be able to ask questions. And no, I can't get to the Game Fair or the other 
>event!
>
> Where did you get yours?
>

As previously stated I bought mine direct from the UK web site.
For a outlet near you I suggest searching via Google. I know some of the 
on-line caravan/camping/motorhome/boating sites are selling them, and most 
of those are based on a real world shop you can visit.

Look at the global site - there is a user forum on there that probably has 
the answers to any questions you may have.
Or ask your friend that has one?
date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:54:21 GMT   author:   Mark Pewsey

Re: Cobb   
"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
> news:4812156e$0$766$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Which site are you looking at Mary?
>>>
>>> I know of two:
>>>
>>> http://www.cobbglobal.com/
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> http://cobb-bbq.co.uk/
>>
>> That one!
>
> The cobglobal site has much more information on it. It is US based but a 
> lot of Brits have posted there too.
>
> <snip>
>
>> I'm not thinking of buying one right now but a friend is very 
>> enthusiastic - she uses it in her kitchen -
>
> I hope she is keeping the kitchen VERY well ventilated - these things give 
> off carbon monoxide.

She rang the supplier to ask if it would be OK and was told that once it was 
lit there'd be no problem.
>
>> and the website said it was good for campers. It would certainly take up 
>> less room in out 10' 'van than the gas barbecue but I wonder if it has 
>> the same capacity.
>>
>
> All I can say to that is that the cooking area is about a foot in 
> diameter. I can't say if that is enough for you or not, but I use mine for 
> a family of four without issue.

Thanks for that. A foot diameter isn't enough for our purposes.
>
> I got the full kit - the only thing I don't have is the stainless steel 
> bowl - and everything packs away into a bag just over a foot in diameter 
> and about the same high. That's the base, lid, all the different cooking 
> surfaces, gas lighters, fuel, cook book, spoons, spatulas etc.

Impressive!
>
> For a day out I can leave out those bits I don't need and there's room for 
> fuel and even the food I intend to cook if required.
>
> I'm sure one of those two web sites will have the exact dimensions, 
> including the weight.
>
> I used to use a gas barbecue - that has now been relegated to the garage.
>
> <snipped>
>
>> You see that was one of my  problems with the site, it didn't explain 
>> what a cobblestone was ... or anything really.
>
> It does. Look at the Specifications & Video page of the UK site.

The video didn't work :-(

> A cobblestone is a fuel brick, an alternative to charcoal briquettes. It 
> is made, apparently, of coconut fibres impregated with charcoal and looks 
> like a disk about 4" across of charcoal. It has a coating that acts as the 
> fire lighter, so you don't need separate fire lighters. That's what smokes 
> like crazy for a few minutes. Apart from that it acts and looks just like 
> charcoal except it doesn't disintegrate into dust and ashes when burnt.
> It comes in different size boxes, and each one is individually wrapped so 
> you can pack away just those that you need without everything getting 
> messy.

Ah, thanks for that too. Does it smell (like firelighters do) when it's lit?
>
>
>>I need to know more. The company's address is in Bucks but there's no 
>>mention of regional outlets - I'd certainly want to see the thing first 
>>and be able to ask questions. And no, I can't get to the Game Fair or the 
>>other event!
>>
>> Where did you get yours?
>>
>
> As previously stated I bought mine direct from the UK web site.
> For a outlet near you I suggest searching via Google. I know some of the 
> on-line caravan/camping/motorhome/boating sites are selling them, and most 
> of those are based on a real world shop you can visit.

That's useful, thanks.
>
> Look at the global site - there is a user forum on there that probably has 
> the answers to any questions you may have.
> Or ask your friend that has one?

I'm thinking of that. She only lives about 20 miles away, we could have a 
day out ...  the forum too would be interesting.

I really value everything you've said. Thanks again,

Mary
>
>
>
date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:04:26 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
<snip>

>> I hope she is keeping the kitchen VERY well ventilated - these things 
>> give off carbon monoxide.
>
> She rang the supplier to ask if it would be OK and was told that once it 
> was lit there'd be no problem.

I must admit to having used mine indoors too - got it in February and didn't 
fancy sitting out in the cold wind and rain to try it out!

It is indeed very clean to use once it is going, but even so I'd still 
advise caution and care.
The US site covered this topic on it's forum and specifically warned against 
indoor use.

But then the US has more of a 'sue sue sue' culture than we do :)

<snip>

>> All I can say to that is that the cooking area is about a foot in 
>> diameter. I can't say if that is enough for you or not, but I use mine 
>> for a family of four without issue.
>
> Thanks for that. A foot diameter isn't enough for our purposes.

Yes, it would be good if it was larger, but then you'd lose some of the 
advantage of the compact size.
It's a compromise thing I guess.

It's plenty big enough when using the deep dish for a casserole, but it 
remains to be seen how it works out when BBQing.

Although we tend to get the kids fed first, and then when they go off to 
play (supervised of course before anyone jumps on me) sit back with a glass 
of something and sort ourselves out. And we like to cook a bit, eat a bit, 
cook a bit more... Although my growing girth might put paid to some of that!

You can of course, not tried myself yet, use the interior moat to cook 
things, like spuds or vegetables in foil so you gain cooking surface that 
way.

 <snipped>

>> A cobblestone is a fuel brick, an alternative to charcoal briquettes. It 
>> is made, apparently, of coconut fibres impregated with charcoal and looks 
>> like a disk about 4" across of charcoal. It has a coating that acts as 
>> the fire lighter, so you don't need separate fire lighters. That's what 
>> smokes like crazy for a few minutes. Apart from that it acts and looks 
>> just like charcoal except it doesn't disintegrate into dust and ashes 
>> when burnt.
>> It comes in different size boxes, and each one is individually wrapped so 
>> you can pack away just those that you need without everything getting 
>> messy.
>
> Ah, thanks for that too. Does it smell (like firelighters do) when it's 
> lit?

Yes, smells and smokes real bad, but only for a few minutes - five at the 
most. I light it outside the awning (the fire basket is removable) and then 
pop it into the base unit once it is going properly. No smell after that at 
all.

That's the cobblestones - not yet tried with real charcoal yet, but I guess 
you'd still get the firelighter smell if you use them.

This probably makes it sound worse than it is - it is certainly no worse 
than many charcoal BBQs I've seen in use, and you don't get any smoke even 
from dripping fat/juices due to the way it's designed.

<snipped>

>> Or ask your friend that has one?
>
> I'm thinking of that. She only lives about 20 miles away, we could have a 
> day out ...  the forum too would be interesting.
>
> I really value everything you've said. Thanks again,

You're welcome.

I would certainly say do not be put off by the size of it, but go see your 
friend's and make your mind up then.  If this sun keeps up get them to BBQ 
for you and then you can experience it in use!

If it turns cold again, they can do a hearty stew instead!
date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:33:34 GMT   author:   Mark Pewsey

Re: Cobb   
Cobbs are lethal inside regarding carbon monoxide.  Absolutely the continue 
to give off substantial amounts of carbon monoxide the whole time the Cobb 
burns.  Do a Google search on carbon monoxide and the issues and you 
hopefully will change your mind about using one indoors.

Personally I prefer the instantaneous of gas and heat adjustment. I have a 
30cm round cast aluminium 'plate' which is dished and has a 25mm lip, with 
heat distribution metal diffuser on the bottom.  The plate has a screw in 
the middle that can be removed and any grease runs to a dish on the outside. 
If you put the plug back in, it is like a bowl.  Have a 30cm aluminium domed 
Wok lid that we use over this and put hand towel on top to hold the heat in. 
Use the stove with the butane cartridges.  Is compact lightweight, takes no 
space, can be used for boiling the kettle or other cooking.

Know more than a few that tried the Cobb and used it for a while, but got 
fed up with the wait for the coal briquettes to get up to heat and no heat 
adjustment.



"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
> I must admit to having used mine indoors too - got it in February and 
> didn't fancy sitting out in the cold wind and rain to try it out!
>
> It is indeed very clean to use once it is going, but even so I'd still 
> advise caution and care.
> The US site covered this topic on it's forum and specifically warned 
> against indoor use.
>
> But then the US has more of a 'sue sue sue' culture than we do :)
>
> <snip>
>
>>> All I can say to that is that the cooking area is about a foot in 
>>> diameter. I can't say if that is enough for you or not, but I use mine 
>>> for a family of four without issue.
>>
>> Thanks for that. A foot diameter isn't enough for our purposes.
>
> Yes, it would be good if it was larger, but then you'd lose some of the 
> advantage of the compact size.
> It's a compromise thing I guess.
>
> It's plenty big enough when using the deep dish for a casserole, but it 
> remains to be seen how it works out when BBQing.
>
> Although we tend to get the kids fed first, and then when they go off to 
> play (supervised of course before anyone jumps on me) sit back with a 
> glass of something and sort ourselves out. And we like to cook a bit, eat 
> a bit, cook a bit more... Although my growing girth might put paid to some 
> of that!
>
> You can of course, not tried myself yet, use the interior moat to cook 
> things, like spuds or vegetables in foil so you gain cooking surface that 
> way.
>
> <snipped>
>
>>> A cobblestone is a fuel brick, an alternative to charcoal briquettes. It 
>>> is made, apparently, of coconut fibres impregated with charcoal and 
>>> looks like a disk about 4" across of charcoal. It has a coating that 
>>> acts as the fire lighter, so you don't need separate fire lighters. 
>>> That's what smokes like crazy for a few minutes. Apart from that it acts 
>>> and looks just like charcoal except it doesn't disintegrate into dust 
>>> and ashes when burnt.
>>> It comes in different size boxes, and each one is individually wrapped 
>>> so you can pack away just those that you need without everything getting 
>>> messy.
>>
>> Ah, thanks for that too. Does it smell (like firelighters do) when it's 
>> lit?
>
> Yes, smells and smokes real bad, but only for a few minutes - five at the 
> most. I light it outside the awning (the fire basket is removable) and 
> then pop it into the base unit once it is going properly. No smell after 
> that at all.
>
> That's the cobblestones - not yet tried with real charcoal yet, but I 
> guess you'd still get the firelighter smell if you use them.
>
> This probably makes it sound worse than it is - it is certainly no worse 
> than many charcoal BBQs I've seen in use, and you don't get any smoke even 
> from dripping fat/juices due to the way it's designed.
>
> <snipped>
>
>>> Or ask your friend that has one?
>>
>> I'm thinking of that. She only lives about 20 miles away, we could have a 
>> day out ...  the forum too would be interesting.
>>
>> I really value everything you've said. Thanks again,
>
> You're welcome.
>
> I would certainly say do not be put off by the size of it, but go see your 
> friend's and make your mind up then.  If this sun keeps up get them to BBQ 
> for you and then you can experience it in use!
>
> If it turns cold again, they can do a hearty stew instead!
>
>
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:46:21 GMT   author:   Mike Manuka

Re: Cobb   
"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
>
>>> I hope she is keeping the kitchen VERY well ventilated - these things 
>>> give off carbon monoxide.
>>
>> She rang the supplier to ask if it would be OK and was told that once it 
>> was lit there'd be no problem.
>
> I must admit to having used mine indoors too - got it in February and 
> didn't fancy sitting out in the cold wind and rain to try it out!

And you haven't succumbed to CO poisoning!
>
> It is indeed very clean to use once it is going, but even so I'd still 
> advise caution and care.
> The US site covered this topic on it's forum and specifically warned 
> against indoor use.
>
> But then the US has more of a 'sue sue sue' culture than we do :)

We're catching up :-(
>
> <snip>
>
>>> All I can say to that is that the cooking area is about a foot in 
>>> diameter. I can't say if that is enough for you or not, but I use mine 
>>> for a family of four without issue.
>>
>> Thanks for that. A foot diameter isn't enough for our purposes.
>
> Yes, it would be good if it was larger, but then you'd lose some of the 
> advantage of the compact size.
> It's a compromise thing I guess.

Yes ...
>
> It's plenty big enough when using the deep dish for a casserole, but it 
> remains to be seen how it works out when BBQing.

My concern is about baking - bread, large pies etc. They do well on the 
large barbecue, trouble is, it takes up a lot of space in the awning and has 
to be lifted in and out of the 'van when we set up/close down.
>
> Although we tend to get the kids fed first, and then when they go off to 
> play (supervised of course before anyone jumps on me)

SUPERVISED???

Life's too short to supervise children. Ours were rarely supervised and the 
all survived despite our best intentions :-(

> sit back with a glass of something and sort ourselves out. And we like to 
> cook a bit, eat a bit, cook a bit more... Although my growing girth might 
> put paid to some of that!

Mine's lessening <brag>

But it's hard work <sigh>
>
> You can of course, not tried myself yet, use the interior moat to cook 
> things, like spuds or vegetables in foil so you gain cooking surface that 
> way.

In foil? Never done that ...
>
.
>>
>> Ah, thanks for that too. Does it smell (like firelighters do) when it's 
>> lit?
>
...

>
> That's the cobblestones - not yet tried with real charcoal yet, but I 
> guess you'd still get the firelighter smell if you use them.

I never use them but have suffered the malodorous effects from others' 
fires.
>
> This probably makes it sound worse than it is - it is certainly no worse 
> than many charcoal BBQs I've seen in use, and you don't get any smoke even 
> from dripping fat/juices due to the way it's designed.

That's a very great advantage.
>
> <snipped>
>
>
> I would certainly say do not be put off by the size of it, but go see your 
> friend's and make your mind up then.  If this sun keeps up get them to BBQ 
> for you and then you can experience it in use!

Sun? What sun? It's raining!
>
> If it turns cold again, they can do a hearty stew instead!

:-)

Mary
>
>
date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:30:32 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:46:21 GMT, "Mike Manuka" 
wrote:

>Cobbs are lethal inside regarding carbon monoxide.  Absolutely the continue 
>to give off substantial amounts of carbon monoxide the whole time the Cobb 
>burns.  Do a Google search on carbon monoxide and the issues and you 
>hopefully will change your mind about using one indoors.

You beat me to that Mike....burning charcoal does produce a LOT of
Carbon Monoxide, I was amazed at how quickly my CO alarm in the
caravan went off when I brought a charcoal BBQ into the awning to use
the last bit of heat of an evening one time.  Now, if I'm using any
charcoal stove under cover, I make sure I have a through draught to be
safe.

Many thanks though to Mark for some very useful info on the Cobb.
I've known of these things for some years since I saw one of the first
models imported being demonstrated at the NAC Stoneleigh.  I have
contemplated buying one on several occasions, but consider them rather
expensive for what they are.  That's not to say that I wouldn't snap
up a second-hand one at the right price!  I'm rather fond of cooking
with charcoal myself, and frequently use a stove not entirely unlike a
Kenyan Jiko - LOL, that'll prompt some Googling :o)

Cheers guys,

Neil

(Reply via NG please)
date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:22:30 +0100   author:   Neil

Re: Cobb   
"Neil"  wrote in message 
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>
>>Cobbs are lethal inside regarding carbon monoxide.  Absolutely the 
>>continue
>>to give off substantial amounts of carbon monoxide the whole time the Cobb
>>burns.  Do a Google search on carbon monoxide and the issues and you
>>hopefully will change your mind about using one indoors.
>
> You beat me to that Mike....burning charcoal does produce a LOT of
> Carbon Monoxide, I was amazed at how quickly my CO alarm in the
> caravan went off when I brought a charcoal BBQ into the awning to use
> the last bit of heat of an evening one time.  Now, if I'm using any
> charcoal stove under cover, I make sure I have a through draught to be
> safe.

We've often taken out charcoal oven into the tent to help keep us warm 
during a VERY cold night. We've never suffered. 'Burning charcoal' is too 
general a phrase, it depends on the stove used as well as the air intake.
>
> ...  I'm rather fond of cooking
> with charcoal myself, and frequently use a stove not entirely unlike a
> Kenyan Jiko - LOL, that'll prompt some Googling :o)

We often use a simple ceramic charcoal (or wood) cooker too but it isn't big 
enough for all our demands. And it's heavy, when camping we try to keep the 
weight down. It's also not easy to move around because it gets so hot and 
that means that you can't transport it until it's cold. My first one 
(they're very cheap) cracked when I tried to cool it too quickly after using 
it for a demonstration.

I've often used a mediaeval ceramic device (designed to keep food warm) for 
cooking small dishes, especially those which don't need long cooking.

Ceramic 'cookers' are universal in time and space.

Mary
date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:10:04 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
I haven't noticed a problem yet with fumes but will take head, I have  not 
yet used the cobblestones as I have still quite a bit of brickets to use up. 
As for cooking I can't praise it enough as for time to warm up its no 
different to a normal barbeque in my opinion. You can also use 3/4 brickets 
for a quick fry up or 7/9 for a roast etc. Plus there is a choice of how you 
want to cook things i.e. mote, griddle, frying pan, roasting, wok. When I 
looked around for a unit to do what the Cobb can do I couldn't find a 
another product anything like it, I see a few mail replies seem to fault it 
on fumes I think this is unfair but as its so easy to take inside I 
appreciate the concern.

Rob
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Neil"  wrote in message 
> news:a0u9149trmvk9hdrpb4rv8t2cr7uddkmds@4ax.com...
>>
>>>Cobbs are lethal inside regarding carbon monoxide.  Absolutely the 
>>>continue
>>>to give off substantial amounts of carbon monoxide the whole time the 
>>>Cobb
>>>burns.  Do a Google search on carbon monoxide and the issues and you
>>>hopefully will change your mind about using one indoors.
>>
>> You beat me to that Mike....burning charcoal does produce a LOT of
>> Carbon Monoxide, I was amazed at how quickly my CO alarm in the
>> caravan went off when I brought a charcoal BBQ into the awning to use
>> the last bit of heat of an evening one time.  Now, if I'm using any
>> charcoal stove under cover, I make sure I have a through draught to be
>> safe.
>
> We've often taken out charcoal oven into the tent to help keep us warm 
> during a VERY cold night. We've never suffered. 'Burning charcoal' is too 
> general a phrase, it depends on the stove used as well as the air intake.
>>
>> ...  I'm rather fond of cooking
>> with charcoal myself, and frequently use a stove not entirely unlike a
>> Kenyan Jiko - LOL, that'll prompt some Googling :o)
>
> We often use a simple ceramic charcoal (or wood) cooker too but it isn't 
> big enough for all our demands. And it's heavy, when camping we try to 
> keep the weight down. It's also not easy to move around because it gets so 
> hot and that means that you can't transport it until it's cold. My first 
> one (they're very cheap) cracked when I tried to cool it too quickly after 
> using it for a demonstration.
>
> I've often used a mediaeval ceramic device (designed to keep food warm) 
> for cooking small dishes, especially those which don't need long cooking.
>
> Ceramic 'cookers' are universal in time and space.
>
> Mary
>
date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:30:28 +0100   author:   R A

Re: Cobb   
"R A"  wrote in message 
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>I haven't noticed a problem yet with fumes but will take head, I have  not 
>yet used the cobblestones as I have still quite a bit of brickets to use 
>up. As for cooking I can't praise it enough as for time to warm up its no 
>different to a normal barbeque in my opinion. You can also use 3/4 brickets 
>for a quick fry up or 7/9 for a roast etc. Plus there is a choice of how 
>you want to cook things i.e. mote, griddle, frying pan, roasting, wok. When 
>I looked around for a unit to do what the Cobb can do I couldn't find a 
>another product anything like it, I see a few mail replies seem to fault it 
>on fumes I think this is unfair but as its so easy to take inside I 
>appreciate the concern.
>
> Rob



I agree it's unfair to blame the Cobb for the fumes - that's down to the 
fuel, pure and simple. With the cobblestones it's only the initial lighting 
up that's messy - once under way they are fine, and from light up to cooking 
takes well under 5 minutes which compares reasonably fairly with the almost 
instantaneous convenience of a gas BBQ, and certainly better than many pure 
charcoal BBQs.

Interesting as I'm thinking about going the other way - from cobblestones to 
briquettes!

I like the cobblestones for their simplicity. However I like the idea of 
briquettes because you can use as many or as few as required, plus I would 
imagine it would be simpler to add a few more if needed to increase the 
cooking time. I can't see any way of adding another cobblestone if you need 
another half hour of cooking time.

To be honest I'd probably use both fuels depending on what I was after 
doing.

Regardless of fuel, ventilation has to be considered. When I tried mine out 
inside, as mentioned in a previous post, it was sat near the patio doors 
with them ajar. I have no way of knowing if they pumped out carbon monoxide 
or not, but the fact it could has to be considered and allowed for.

Mary, don't know if you are in the Caravan Club or not but this month's 
magazine has a choice of special offers on for the Cobbs.
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:03:16 GMT   author:   Mark Pewsey

Re: Cobb   
"Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
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>
>

>
> Interesting as I'm thinking about going the other way - from cobblestones 
> to briquettes!
>
> I like the cobblestones for their simplicity. However I like the idea of 
> briquettes because you can use as many or as few as required, plus I would 
> imagine it would be simpler to add a few more if needed to increase the 
> cooking time. I can't see any way of adding another cobblestone if you 
> need another half hour of cooking time.
>
> To be honest I'd probably use both fuels depending on what I was after 
> doing.

Keeping your options open - that's very wise, I think.
>

>
> Mary, don't know if you are in the Caravan Club or not but this month's 
> magazine has a choice of special offers on for the Cobbs.

No, we're members of the other lot :-)

Mary
>
>
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:40:21 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
> news:EUFRj.17358$yD2.14932@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>
>>
>> Mary, don't know if you are in the Caravan Club or not but this month's 
>> magazine has a choice of special offers on for the Cobbs.
>
> No, we're members of the other lot :-)
>
> Mary

Shame on you Mary

DieSea
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:16:49 +0100   author:   DieSea mm

Re: Cobb   
"Mark Pewsey"  wrote
> Mary, don't know if you are in the Caravan Club or not but this month's 
> magazine has a choice of special offers on for the Cobbs.
>
The usual grand discount from CC. £99.95 with 25 percent off.

Also available at Lakeland for £89.95.
Of course that won't put 10 quid in the CC coffers.
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:00:48 GMT   author:   PB

Re: Cobb   
"DieSea" <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote in message 
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>
> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
> news:4817338b$0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>
>> "Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
>> news:EUFRj.17358$yD2.14932@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>>>
>>> Mary, don't know if you are in the Caravan Club or not but this month's 
>>> magazine has a choice of special offers on for the Cobbs.
>>
>> No, we're members of the other lot :-)
>>
>> Mary
>
> Shame on you Mary

<shrug>

They offered a good deal on RAC membership, which we already belonged to so 
we saved. I like it - not that we've ever used a site! But as you know we 
don't use 'proper' sites :-)))

If it's good enough for BL it's good enough for us ...

Mary
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:56:17 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
"Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
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>
> "DieSea" <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote in message 
> news:48173bd4$0$10646$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>> "Mary Fisher"  wrote in message 
>> news:4817338b$0$763$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net...
>>>
>>> "Mark Pewsey"  wrote in message 
>>> news:EUFRj.17358$yD2.14932@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mary, don't know if you are in the Caravan Club or not but this month's 
>>>> magazine has a choice of special offers on for the Cobbs.
>>>
>>> No, we're members of the other lot :-)
>>>
>>> Mary
>>
>> Shame on you Mary
>
> <shrug>
>
> They offered a good deal on RAC membership, which we already belonged to so we 
> saved. I like it - not that we've ever used a site! But as you know we don't use 
> 'proper' sites :-)))
>
> If it's good enough for BL it's good enough for us ...
>
> Mary
>
>

And there was ME thinking British Leyland had gorne to a watery grave

Tee Hee

I must admit we're orft daaarn Sarf to pick our **new van** up next week

Can we find a Caravan Club site  between **there and here** that has any pitches 
left over a  weekend

No Way

We've looked at various popular sites around the country and  all seem to be fully 
booked each weekend and that's for the next 3 months

The **dragon** likes her home comforts , eastenders , corrie and of course being a 
yorkshire lass ( like you Mary ) emmerdale

DieSea
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:56:47 +0100   author:   DieSea mm

Re: Cobb   
"DieSea" <DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote in message 
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>
>>
>> If it's good enough for BL it's good enough for us ...
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>
> And there was ME thinking British Leyland had gorne to a watery grave

Hmm. Ever heard of that nice man Bill Lord?
>
 Tee Hee
>
> I must admit we're orft daaarn Sarf to pick our **new van** up next week

What joy.
>
> Can we find a Caravan Club site  between **there and here** that has any 
> pitches left over a  weekend
>
> No Way
>
> We've looked at various popular sites around the country and  all seem to 
> be fully booked each weekend and that's for the next 3 months
>
> The **dragon** likes her home comforts , eastenders , corrie and of course 
> being a yorkshire lass ( like you Mary ) emmerdale

We've been on Emmerdale ... no idea what Corrie is and on the odd occasion 
I've been subjected to Eastenders (a daughter in law is an addict) I haven't 
been able to undertand what they were shouting about.

The Archers is good enough for me :-)

Mary
>
> DieSea
>
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:34:26 +0100   author:   Mary Fisher

Re: Cobb   
"PB"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mark Pewsey"  wrote
>> Mary, don't know if you are in the Caravan Club or not but this month's 
>> magazine has a choice of special offers on for the Cobbs.
>>
> The usual grand discount from CC. £99.95 with 25 percent off.
>
> Also available at Lakeland for £89.95.
> Of course that won't put 10 quid in the CC coffers.
>

I doubt the offer in the magazine will either.

Interesting that Lakeland also sell Cobbs - didn't know that.
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:06:23 GMT   author:   Mark Pewsey

Re: Cobb   
Good point Mark I haven't yet used the cobblestones as I said in an earlier 
post but after reading your input I will stay with the briquettes as well.


> I like the cobblestones for their simplicity. However I like the idea of 
> briquettes because you can use as many or as few as required, plus I would 
> imagine it would be simpler to add a few more if needed to increase the 
> cooking time. I can't see any way of adding another cobblestone if you 
> need another half hour of cooking time.
>
> To be honest I'd probably use both fuels depending on what I was after 
> doing.
>
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:50:51 +0100   author:   R A

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