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date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0000,    group: uk.rec.caravanning        back       
Spacers   
Hi
I wish to to move my AL-KO towball further away from
the car bumper by fitting two 25mm spacers between
towbar plate and towball.

Can anyone see a problem or risk by doing so ?

All opions welcome please.

Many  thanks.
Baz

-- 
Don't get to friendly with the neighbours.
You never know when you've got to upset
them.
date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:31:02 -0000   author:   Barry

Re: Spacers   
"Barry"  wrote in 
news:13ot4tqo56bum0d@corp.supernews.com:

> I wish to to move my AL-KO towball further away from
> the car bumper by fitting two 25mm spacers between
> towbar plate and towball.
> 
> Can anyone see a problem or risk by doing so ?

If you must and can lawfully do it, you'd probably be better with one 50mm 
spacer than two 25mm spacers. However, you might not be able to do what you 
want lawfully. If you have a type-approved towcar (S-reg or later EU-spec 
car) you must only fit an approved towbar and may not modify that unless 
those modifications are also approved for that towbar and car. AFAICT, many 
towbars permit no more than 25mm of spacers (to permit fitting stabiliser 
car plates, bike carriers, etc.) between the towbar and the flange of the 
towball. So if you have a type-approved car you'll need to check how much 
spacing is permitted.

If you haven't got a type-approved car, you can fit what you want provided 
you don't end up with an unsafe vehicle -- so, you'll still need to tread 
warily. However, there are some where fitting a 40mm or 50mm spacer is 
usual (e.g. Mk 2 Pajeros where a 50mm spacer lets you use an Al-Ko 
2004/3004 hitch head without needing to replace the standard handle with 
Al-Ko's "4x4 kludge").

HTH,

-- 
Geoff
date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:48:54 -0000   author:   Geoff Lane lid

Re: Spacers   
Barry wrote:
> Hi
> I wish to to move my AL-KO towball further away from
> the car bumper by fitting two 25mm spacers between
> towbar plate and towball.
> 
> Can anyone see a problem or risk by doing so ?
> 
> All opinions welcome please.
> 
> Many  thanks.
> Baz

If your tow bar needs to comply with the 94/20/EC directive i.e. tow 
vehicle first registered on or after 1st August 1998 and is not 
'commercial' it's unlikely that the use of 50mm of spacer is covered by 
the tow bar certification. Most, but not all, Land Rover tow brackets 
permit such a spacer pack but they are definitely the exception. Some 
tow bars are certified for use with a thinner spacer pack. Check with 
the tow bar manufacturer if you need to.

If the 1998 date doesn't affect you it's a bit of a judgement call 
depending amongst other things on the trailer being towed: if very light 
you have more leeway than for 3500 kg of trailer. The problems lie in 
increased torque being applied to the tow bar structure and in bending 
stresses in the ball attaching bolts. If there's doubt or you're not 
qualified to judge, forget the idea: even the AL-KO ball's comparatively 
cheap.

The standard ball still may not allow sufficient roll articulation to 
meet AL-KO's specification if that bothers you.

There has been much previous discussion of this topic here. Search past 
posts. Expect to receive howls of disapproval in follow-up posts!
date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:57:06 +0000   author:   Dougal

Re: Spacers   
"Barry"  wrote

 I wish to to move my AL-KO towball further away from
>> the car bumper by fitting two 25mm spacers between
>> towbar plate and towball.
>>
>> Can anyone see a problem or risk by doing so ?

"Geoff Lane" <geoff@nospam.invalid> wrote in message 
news:Xns9A27F242669Egjctcswxnsrt@138.199.67.64...

> If you must and can lawfully do it, you'd probably be better with one 50mm
> spacer than two 25mm spacers.>
> -- 
 Geoff

Hi Geoff and Dougal.

Many thanks for both your replies.

After reading both your replies s I thinks I'm going to invest
in a new towbar all together.

The reason I posted the query in the first place was for this
reason.
Only purchased the car month or so back (Sorento) and did
not like the look of the towbar//ball setup at first sight.

The previous owner has already carried out what I consider
a real bodge up of a job extending the towball away from the
bumper and I wound'nt trust it towing a barrow let alone my caravan.

It's a job to explain what he has done but believe me removing it and
replacing with 50mm spacer would be a 100 times safer and better job.

As you have pointed out it would be illegal on a 54 reg to modify or fit
spacers ,the only safe option is to go new.

Again thankyou both for advice and info,much appreciated.

Barry.
date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:10:55 -0000   author:   Barry

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