I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
chassis.

Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.

My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
and for an extra £85 I can get an upgrade to 1 years Euro cover
(subject to being CCC member)

Insurance. Currently with NU but I should I be using a camper
specialist like CCC for the best benefits?

Any other tips etc?

Thank you.

"Jerry"  wrote in message 
news:5j3co31u6qgre19pceijlmjsc40r93rl0g@4ax.com...
>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
> chassis.
>
> Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
> on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
>
> My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
> and for an extra £85 I can get an upgrade to 1 years Euro cover
> (subject to being CCC member)
Your existing RAC cover may not cover you for something the size of a camper 
but buying it through CCC removes the size limits.

> Insurance. Currently with NU but I should I be using a camper
> specialist like CCC for the best benefits?
CCC are hard to beat for comprehensive level of cover but if you want it 
cheap go to CIS, they cover it as a van so the goodies you get with CCC like 
contents, camping equipment etc isn't covered.

Rgds

Andy R

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:53:26 +0000, Jerry 
wrote:

>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
>chassis.
>
>Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
>on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
>
>My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,

I would double check that. 
AFAIK RAC only cover Motorcaravans up to a max length and that length
isnt very long.
It will be cheaper joining the C&CC then getting the RAC 'Arrival'
which Will cover your van
Also unless you are going foreign a lot of times buying a years cover
via RAC  is false economy
>

"Custard" <ignore the facts-completely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:53:26 +0000, Jerry 
> wrote:
>
> >I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
> >chassis.
> >
> >Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
> >on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
> >
> >My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
>
> I would double check that.
> AFAIK RAC only cover Motorcaravans up to a max length and that length
> isnt very long.
> It will be cheaper joining the C&CC then getting the RAC 'Arrival'
> which Will cover your van
> Also unless you are going foreign a lot of times buying a years cover
> via RAC  is false economy
> >

Lots of people use ADAC, it covers them in England by AA, at the moment
people are raving about it..

http://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8698

"Jerry"  wrote in message 
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>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
> chassis.
>
> Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
> on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
>
> My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
> and for an extra £85 I can get an upgrade to 1 years Euro cover
> (subject to being CCC member)
>
> Insurance. Currently with NU but I should I be using a camper
> specialist like CCC for the best benefits?


Or perhaps the Caravan Club who have an even greater choice of campsites and 
also do vehicle insurance and their Red Pennent European service is second 
to none.

David - Milton Keynes
www.caravantravels.co.uk

Try Safeguard for a quote,they specialise in motorvans and their cover 
includes 365 days abroad without notification,AA recovery in the UK for all 
motorvans and European recovery for vans up to ten years old, there is no 
limit on length or weight provided you inform them prior to recovery that 
your vehicle is more than 7 metres and they can send the appropriate 
recovery vehicle.
Tony
"David Klyne"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Jerry"  wrote in message 
> news:5j3co31u6qgre19pceijlmjsc40r93rl0g@4ax.com...
>>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
>> chassis.
>>
>> Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
>> on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
>>
>> My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
>> and for an extra £85 I can get an upgrade to 1 years Euro cover
>> (subject to being CCC member)
>>
>> Insurance. Currently with NU but I should I be using a camper
>> specialist like CCC for the best benefits?
>
>
> Or perhaps the Caravan Club who have an even greater choice of campsites 
> and also do vehicle insurance and their Red Pennent European service is 
> second to none.
>
> David - Milton Keynes
> www.caravantravels.co.uk
>

"David Klyne"  wrote in message
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>
> "Jerry"  wrote in message
> news:5j3co31u6qgre19pceijlmjsc40r93rl0g@4ax.com...
>>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit


> Or perhaps the Caravan Club who have an even greater choice of campsites
> and also do vehicle insurance and their Red Pennent European service is
> second to none.
>
> David - Milton Keynes
> www.caravantravels.co.uk

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I was about to write virtually the same mail David has just written.

I am, after almost 20yrs, dropping my Camping & Caravanning Club membership
this coming renewal: the sites are nowhere near as good as the Caravan Club
sites for a motorcaravanner who uses the van all year round both in number,
dsitribution and quality of buildings, facilities etc and the Camping Club
discriminates against people like my wife and I  who often move forwards one
night at a time, by declining to accept bookings for less than two nights at
weekends in the summer. In addition the Camping Club has a policy about
bookings/refunds which is now absurd whereas the Caravan Club "trusts its
members"  - who are not always trustworthy[!] -to turn up or to cancel the
booking: no deposit required.

I don't like the way the Camping Club is going: it is becoming  "commercial"
with statics and bungo-lodges whereas the Caravan Club remains resolutely in
service of members who tour. It is ironic: we joined the Camping Club some
years after joining the Caravan Club and found it truly to be "the friendly
club", whereas the Caravan Club was a little starchy in those days,
especially towards people like us in a camper van. Now the Caravan Club,
with far more hard-standings, which tend to be bigger and level, is of far
more use to us.

The Caravan Club is following the soundest management principle of all, the
KISS principle - "Keep It Simple, Stupid"!

The Caravan Club is second to none in terms of its foreign touring service
and Red Pennant, if ever needed, is second to none as a European Rescue
service and there are no restrictions on length etc for campervans.

Malcolm

"PM"  wrote in message
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>
> "David Klyne"  wrote in message
> news:13ockj9bfske77e@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Jerry"  wrote in message
> > news:5j3co31u6qgre19pceijlmjsc40r93rl0g@4ax.com...
> >>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
>
>
> > Or perhaps the Caravan Club who have an even greater choice of campsites
> > and also do vehicle insurance and their Red Pennent European service is
> > second to none.
> >
> > David - Milton Keynes
> > www.caravantravels.co.uk
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I was about to write virtually the same mail David has just written.
>
> I am, after almost 20yrs, dropping my Camping & Caravanning Club
membership
> this coming renewal: the sites are nowhere near as good as the Caravan
Club
> sites for a motorcaravanner who uses the van all year round both in
number,
> dsitribution and quality of buildings, facilities etc and the Camping Club
> discriminates against people like my wife and I  who often move forwards
one
> night at a time, by declining to accept bookings for less than two nights
at
> weekends in the summer. In addition the Camping Club has a policy about
> bookings/refunds which is now absurd whereas the Caravan Club "trusts its
> members"  - who are not always trustworthy[!] -to turn up or to cancel the
> booking: no deposit required.
>
> I don't like the way the Camping Club is going: it is becoming
"commercial"
> with statics and bungo-lodges whereas the Caravan Club remains resolutely
in
> service of members who tour. It is ironic: we joined the Camping Club some
> years after joining the Caravan Club and found it truly to be "the
friendly
> club", whereas the Caravan Club was a little starchy in those days,
> especially towards people like us in a camper van. Now the Caravan Club,
> with far more hard-standings, which tend to be bigger and level, is of far
> more use to us.
>
> The Caravan Club is following the soundest management principle of all,
the
> KISS principle - "Keep It Simple, Stupid"!
>
> The Caravan Club is second to none in terms of its foreign touring service
> and Red Pennant, if ever needed, is second to none as a European Rescue
> service and there are no restrictions on length etc for campervans.
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>

Well sods law, on cable this week, i have come accross the caravan
show...quite funny, lots of places in Europe, some of the campsites said
minimum stop in summer was a week...

guy foned with again with the camper today (the vw campervan) were off to
meet on Sunday and if both happy swop

Jerry said.....
> I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
> chassis.
> 
> Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
> on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
> 
> My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
> and for an extra £85 I can get an upgrade to 1 years Euro cover
> (subject to being CCC member)
> 
> Insurance. Currently with NU but I should I be using a camper
> specialist like CCC for the best benefits?
> 
> Any other tips etc?
> 
> Thank you.
> 


I asked the RAC about any restrictions when I bought a camper and they 
said - quote - "I confirm your vehicle will be covered if you are 
within our vehicle specifications which as below.

Maximum vehicle weight 3.5 tonnes
Maximum vehicle length 5.5 metres
Maximum vehicle width 2.3 metres"

So you might just squeeze in?

As for insurance, apart from the Clubs there are some specialist 
brokers who can come up with good deals - eg Comfort Insurance 
(www.comfort-insurance.co.uk)  - who also have special breakdown plans 
on offer. They do online quotes, and in my experience don't hassle you 
with spam!

-- 
SidB

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:50:55 -0000, "PM" 
wrote:

>The Caravan Club is following the soundest management principle of all, the
>KISS principle - "Keep It Simple, Stupid"!

No that means
Keep it Superior and Snobby

When I had a self build motorcaravan based on a transit I was turned
away from 2 Caravan Club sites, yet was never turned away from a C&CC
site
>
>The Caravan Club is second to none in terms of its foreign touring service
>and Red Pennant, if ever needed, is second to none as a European Rescue
>service and there are no restrictions on length etc for campervans.
In your opinion


>
>Malcolm
>
>

"Custard" <ignore the facts-completely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:50:55 -0000, "PM" 
> wrote:
>
> When I had a self build motorcaravan based on a transit I was turned
> away from 2 Caravan Club sites, yet was never turned away from a C&CC
> site
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Given what we know of "Custard", who posts here as "ignore the facts
completely", the only thing I can say is

"Phew! Thank Goodness for that!"

(^_^)

PM

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:53:26 +0000, Jerry 
wrote:

>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
>chassis.
>
>Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
>on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
>
>My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
>and for an extra £85 I can get an upgrade to 1 years Euro cover
>(subject to being CCC member)
>
If you are over 50 Saga offers all Europe breakdown cover for less
than others charge for UK only.

>Insurance. Currently with NU but I should I be using a camper
>specialist like CCC for the best benefits?
>
>Any other tips etc?
>
>Thank you.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:05:04 -0000, "Andy R" 
wrote:

>
>"Jerry"  wrote in message 
>news:5j3co31u6qgre19pceijlmjsc40r93rl0g@4ax.com...
>>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
>> chassis.
>>
>> Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
>> on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
>>
>> My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
>> and for an extra £85 I can get an upgrade to 1 years Euro cover
>> (subject to being CCC member)
>Your existing RAC cover may not cover you for something the size of a camper 
>but buying it through CCC removes the size limits.

I got it as an upgrade to my existing RAC recovery cover, although I
had to join CCC as well and provide the membership number to RAC to
upgrade. So the annual Euro recovery upgrade is £85 and that covers
any vehicle, any time and as often as you like.

>> Insurance. Currently with NU but I should I be using a camper
>> specialist like CCC for the best benefits?

>CCC are hard to beat for comprehensive level of cover but if you want it 
>cheap go to CIS, they cover it as a van so the goodies you get with CCC like 
>contents, camping equipment etc isn't covered.

No I don't want cheap. I'll stick with NU until renewal and when the
paperwork arrives I'll be able to compare it with CC, CCC etc.

Thanks all for the help.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:36:08 +0000, Custard <ignore the
facts-completely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:53:26 +0000, Jerry 
>wrote:
>
>>I have now acquired my first camper (luton 4 berth) on transit
>>chassis.
>>
>>Presumably joining Camping and Caravan Club would be a bonus as I plan
>>on visiting plenty of UK sites/CLs.
>>
>>My existing RAC breakdown/recovery automatically covers the camper,
>
>I would double check that. 
>AFAIK RAC only cover Motorcaravans up to a max length and that length
>isnt very long.

That is apparently true unless you are a member of CCC as well then it
covers anything.

>It will be cheaper joining the C&CC then getting the RAC 'Arrival'
>which Will cover your van

I was already a member of RAC so it was academic.

>Also unless you are going foreign a lot of times buying a years cover
>via RAC  is false economy

Well hopefully we will be popping across often this year, provided we
can get some decent day trip, 5 day ferry tickets. Do they still
exist?

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:16:54 +0000, Jerry 
wrote:

>>I would double check that. 
>>AFAIK RAC only cover Motorcaravans up to a max length and that length
>>isnt very long.
>
>That is apparently true unless you are a member of CCC as well then it
>covers anything.

ONLY if you have specifically upgraded to Arrival.If you haven't then
they wont return you home. This has been discussed on several
Motorcaravan sites

>
>>It will be cheaper joining the C&CC then getting the RAC 'Arrival'
>>which Will cover your van
>
>I was already a member of RAC so it was academic.
See above. CHECK if your membership has been upgraded. Sitting there
and smugly saying Im a member isn't going to do it if indeed you are
an RAC member but haven't got 'Arrival' on your card or haven't
specifically asked for it

>

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:21:55 -0000, "PM" 
wrote:

>
>"Custard" <ignore the facts-completely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:lpeeo353topjlejar5lrad0ea5kkm8g2a6@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:50:55 -0000, "PM" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> When I had a self build motorcaravan based on a transit I was turned
>> away from 2 Caravan Club sites, yet was never turned away from a C&CC
>> site
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>Given what we know of "Custard", who posts here as "ignore the facts
>completely", the only thing I can say is
>
>"Phew! Thank Goodness for that!"

Well Mr Smug, you know nothing of me and I gave out specific examples
of how the CC treat people. When my van was turned away from both
sites I had prepaid those sites.

The CC is for OAP'S who are out at 6.00 every morning washing the car
and van, and snobby old bastards, the type that put their 37" Colour
TV out in their awning then a TV lamp on top of it and potted plants
by the door of the awning. (I actually saw that on a site in
Yorkshire.)

> I gave out specific examples
> of how the CC treat people. When my van was turned away from both
> sites I had prepaid those sites.

Just out of interest how long ago was that because there is now no facility 
to prepay for Caravan Club sites, unless of course they were afiliated sites 
which are not owned by the Club but trade under the Club umbrella.

David - Milton Keynes
www.caravantravels.co.uk

"Custard" <ignore the facts-completely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:21:55 -0000, "PM" 

> Well Mr Smug, you know nothing of me and I gave out specific examples
> of how the CC treat people. When my van was turned away from both
> sites I had prepaid those sites.
>
> The CC is for OAP'S who are out at 6.00 every morning washing the car
> and van, and snobby old bastards, the type that put their 37" Colour
> TV out in their awning then a TV lamp on top of it and potted plants
> by the door of the awning. (I actually saw that on a site in
> Yorkshire.)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The name, "ignore the facts . . " says a lot about Mr Custard and a google
tells me more: that's enough to know!

I'm not even 60, let alone an OAP, I don't get up at 6am, I rarely wash my
campervan unless we're away for a month in Europe when the pebble-dash on
the front from cruising at the autoroute limit gets a bit much, and then 
it's done in
a car wash or truck wash and in 35yrs of owning a campervan - the first was 
a Land-Rover which took
us to Africa - we've never had a television, just the van radio and a SW
radio.

If you were turned away, years ago when pre-pay existed[and I have to wonder 
if the sites were semi-public
sites where Wardens cautiously guard against Tinks and Travellers rather
than a
Members-only site where as a bona fide member you'd have been welcomed] I
still say "Phew!" . .  because the more you sound off, redolent of a mix of
mania and inferiority complex, the more I am pleased I didn't get the
beligerant Victor Meldrew/Neighbour From Hell!

However, you seem to have been admitted to a Caravan Club sanctuary  - "I 
actually
saw that on a site inYorkshire" - so either things changed or you really did
want to enjoy the first-rate facilities . . (^_^)   ..  and obviously you've
never seen the CC site, Abbey Wood in London in Summer, full of European
families and
students from all over the world in tents, trailer tents and every 
imaginable type of campervan, from elderly VWs to environment-threatening 
US-size RVs as well as
Brits with their caravans enjoying their capital city: wonderful . . lots of 
people having fun
on what may well be one of the finest campsites in Europe!

Malcolm
- who has no more to say to boring old farts with chips on both shoulders
who will feel obliged to try to have the last word and who fail to 
understand the
difference between winning a battle and losing a war. The more you,
"Custard" <ignore the facts-completely@yahoo.co.uk>, say, the more you
reveal irrationality.

Maybe you're an aspiring Troll, or even Troll-in-Training?

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:43:51 -0000, "David Klyne"
 wrote:

>
>
>
>> I gave out specific examples
>> of how the CC treat people. When my van was turned away from both
>> sites I had prepaid those sites.
>
>Just out of interest how long ago was that because there is now no facility 
>to prepay for Caravan Club sites, unless of course they were afiliated sites 
>which are not owned by the Club but trade under the Club umbrella.
>
>David - Milton Keynes
>www.caravantravels.co.uk 
>

It was around 5 years ago.

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:38:57 -0000, "PM" 
wrote:

>
>
>Malcolm
>- who has no more to say to boring old farts with chips on both shoulders
>who will feel obliged to try to have the last word and who fail to 
>understand the
>difference between winning a battle and losing a war. The more you,
>"Custard" <ignore the facts-completely@yahoo.co.uk>, say, the more you
>reveal irrationality.
>
>Maybe you're an aspiring Troll, or even Troll-in-Training?

Actually Mr Pain-in-the-arse its you that comes over as the troll
making judgements based on your own bigotries.

I was replying to someones enquiry give genuine examples of how I was
treatedby one club. You chose to stick your notty nose in and start
trolling.