Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 

> Brian explained :
>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
> 
> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with 
> hotter filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
> the handbrake.
> 

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What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
uk.telecom.broadband

Adam

Dylan35 wrote:

> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
> uk.telecom.broadband

Why don't you pay some fucking attention to the headers ?

Demon.local and the cars related groups removed.

Graham

"Eeyore"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> Dylan35 wrote:
>
>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>> uk.telecom.broadband
>
> Why don't you pay some fucking attention to the headers ?
>
> Demon.local and the cars related groups removed.
>
> Graham

So his car failed his MOT because his broadband ...............  (please 
complete the sentance to make it revevant to the group)

Adam

"Dylan35"  wrote in message 
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>
> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
> uk.telecom.broadband
>
> Adam

It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent.

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:45:21 +0000, Phil Kyle wrote:

> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
> 
>> Brian explained :
>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
>>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.

That's not exactly true. As the voltage is reduced bulb life increases
non-linearly.

>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
>>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
>> 
>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with 
>> hotter filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
>> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
>> the handbrake.
>> 
> 
> Handbrake turns are much safer.

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"Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:45:21 +0000, Phil Kyle wrote:
>
>> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
>> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk:
>>
>>> Brian explained :
>>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
>>>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
>
> That's not exactly true. As the voltage is reduced bulb life increases
> non-linearly.
>
>>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
>>>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
>>>
>>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with
>>> hotter filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
>>> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
>>> the handbrake.
>>>
>>
>> Handbrake turns are much safer.

Than what?

And towing??

Mary

"Dylan35"  wrote in message 
news:fibsa2$938$1@aioe.org...
>
> "Eeyore"  wrote in message 
> news:4749688C.B1DE08C3@hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>> Dylan35 wrote:
>>
>>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>
>> Why don't you pay some fucking attention to the headers ?
>>
>> Demon.local and the cars related groups removed.
>>
>> Graham
>
> So his car failed his MOT because his broadband ...............  (please 
> complete the sentance to make it revevant to the group)
>
> Adam



FFS Adam, no relevance at all, and we will get a lot more
of it if you insist on replying with the x-posts intact.
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"Jim Way"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Dylan35"  wrote in message 
> news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>
>> Adam
>
> It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent.


Spelling and swearing, plus reading something that you don't need to... 
c'mon guys.  Lighten up.  Meh.

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"DervMan"  wrote in message 
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> "Jim Way"  wrote in message 
> news:6Uf2j.82469$bj2.7884@fe08.news.easynews.com...
>>
>> "Dylan35"  wrote in message 
>> news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>>
>>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>>
>>> Adam
>>
>> It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent.
>
>
> Spelling and swearing, plus reading something that you don't need to... 
> c'mon guys.  Lighten up.  Meh.

Sorry, I got carried away and used intemperate language. As to reading 
something I don't need to, well, I don't know what the post says until I've 
opened it and read it and then it's too late to say, "I didn't need to read 
that!"

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
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> Jim Way ("Jim Way" ) gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
>>>>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>>>>> uk.telecom.broadband
>
>>>> It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent.
>
>>> Spelling and swearing, plus reading something that you don't need to...
>>> c'mon guys.  Lighten up.  Meh.
>
>> Sorry, I got carried away and used intemperate language. As to reading
>> something I don't need to, well, I don't know what the post says until
>> I've opened it and read it and then it's too late to say, "I didn't need
>> to read that!"
>
> The subject line's a good indication that it might be "car crap"...

And if I should own a car would that not then interest me? Mind you, I'm not 
saying if I own a car or if I do not own a car for it is very dangerous to 
divulge too much personal information on the cyber highways. (I'm a silver 
surfer.)

"Jim Way"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Adrian"  wrote in message 
> news:4749c06d$0$47108$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
>> Jim Way ("Jim Way" ) gurgled happily, sounding 
>> much
>> like they were saying:
>>
>>>>>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>>>>>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>
>>>>> It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent.
>>
>>>> Spelling and swearing, plus reading something that you don't need to...
>>>> c'mon guys.  Lighten up.  Meh.
>>
>>> Sorry, I got carried away and used intemperate language. As to reading
>>> something I don't need to, well, I don't know what the post says until
>>> I've opened it and read it and then it's too late to say, "I didn't need
>>> to read that!"
>>
>> The subject line's a good indication that it might be "car crap"...
>
> And if I should own a car would that not then interest me? Mind you, I'm 
> not saying if I own a car or if I do not own a car for it is very 
> dangerous to divulge too much personal information on the cyber highways. 
> (I'm a silver surfer.)


Shoot, tell me about it, that's how I found my wife, back in 1999.  When she 
was 6,000 miles away. :)

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:45:22 GMT, "Jim Way" 
wrote:

>
>"Dylan35"  wrote in message 
>news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>
>> Adam
>
>It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent. 

I have reported him too.

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:44:36 -0000, "Enzo"
 wrote:

>"Dylan35"  wrote in message 
>news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>
>> Adam
>Oi, fucker, if your not fucking happy, why don't you email
>Complaints: abuse@eclipse.net.uk 

I have just done that. Hopefully he'll lose his account.

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<Mike Clayton> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:45:22 GMT, "Jim Way" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Dylan35"  wrote in message
>>news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>>
>>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>>
>>> Adam
>>
>>It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent.
>
> I have reported him too.

Netkkkop!

"Dylan35"  wrote in message 
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>
> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
> uk.telecom.broadband
>
> Adam
Oi, fucker, if your not fucking happy, why don't you email
Complaints: abuse@eclipse.net.uk

"Enzo"  wrote in
news:ficjb0$vah$1@news.albasani.net: 

> "Dylan35"  wrote in message 
> news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>
>> Adam
> Oi, fucker, if your not fucking happy, why don't you email
> Complaints: abuse@eclipse.net.uk 
> 
> 
> 

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"Mary Fisher"  wrote in
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> 
> "Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message 
> news:fic77k$j20$1@news.datemas.de...
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:45:21 +0000, Phil Kyle wrote:
>>
>>> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
>>> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk:
>>>
>>>> Brian explained :
>>>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of
>>>>> a bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
>>
>> That's not exactly true. As the voltage is reduced bulb life
>> increases non-linearly.
>>
>>>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned
>>>>> on and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
>>>>
>>>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with
>>>> hotter filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not
>>>> last as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full
>>>> use of the handbrake.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Handbrake turns are much safer.
> 
> Than what?

Try reading the quotes.

> 
> And towing??
> 

What about it?

> Mary
> 
> 
> 


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Mike Clayton wrote in news:61ljk3tto50sphaceqvj8uvlnt346uh26h@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:44:36 -0000, "Enzo"
>  wrote:
> 
>>"Dylan35"  wrote in message 
>>news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>>
>>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>>
>>> Adam
>>Oi, fucker, if your not fucking happy, why don't you email
>>Complaints: abuse@eclipse.net.uk 
> 
> I have just done that. Hopefully he'll lose his account.
> 

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Mike Clayton wrote in news:aqkjk3d98ju07ivrp4it6ao6rs9ci2d3gs@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:45:22 GMT, "Jim Way" 
> wrote:
> 
>>
>>"Dylan35"  wrote in message 
>>news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>>
>>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>>
>>> Adam
>>
>>It's got fuck all to do with Surrey either, Adam. Abuse reprot sent. 
> 
> I have reported him too.
> 

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"Enzo"  wrote in message
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> "Dylan35"  wrote in message
> news:Z6mdnbErPsMCytTaRVnygQA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> What the fuck has all this car crap got to do with
>> uk.telecom.broadband
>>
>> Adam
> Oi, fucker, if your not fucking happy, why don't you email
> Complaints: abuse@eclipse.net.uk

It's called giving someone a chance , 3 cross post off topic, I was asking a
question why the rest of the thread is not cross posted just his reply. I
was giving him a chance to explain which he has not

adam
>
>

Phil Kyle wrote:
> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
> 
>> Brian explained :
>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
>>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
>>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with 
>> hotter filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
>> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
>> the handbrake.

Because brake light bulbs are *so* expensive...

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"Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message 
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> Phil Kyle wrote:
>> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
>> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk:
>>> Brian explained :
>>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
>>>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
>>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
>>>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
>>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with hotter 
>>> filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
>>> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
>>> the handbrake.
>
> Because brake light bulbs are *so* expensive...

Damn right they are, I had to pay 75p for one last week as I didn't have my 
£1.99 lidl spare set with me.
Not that it helped as I  slammed the door after changing the lamp and the 
door lock broke and I couldn't get in and out and it had to go to the garage 
anyway.

"dennis@home" wrote:

> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
> news:figju3$9s2$1@news.albasani.net...
> > Phil Kyle wrote:
> >> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
> >> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk:
> >>> Brian explained :
> >>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
> >>>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
> >>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
> >>>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
> >>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with hotter
> >>> filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
> >>> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
> >>> the handbrake.
> >
> > Because brake light bulbs are *so* expensive...
>
> Damn right they are, I had to pay 75p for one last week as I didn't have my
> £1.99 lidl spare set with me.
> Not that it helped as I  slammed the door after changing the lamp and the
> door lock broke and I couldn't get in and out and it had to go to the garage
> anyway.

Don't forget how TIME CONSUMING replacing a brake light can be.

Clearly you shouldn't use your brakes AT ALL.

Graham

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:49:10 +0000, Eeyore
 wrote:

>
>
>"dennis@home" wrote:
>
>> "Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
>> news:figju3$9s2$1@news.albasani.net...
>> > Phil Kyle wrote:
>> >> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
>> >> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk:
>> >>> Brian explained :
>> >>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
>> >>>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
>> >>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
>> >>>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
>> >>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with hotter
>> >>> filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
>> >>> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
>> >>> the handbrake.
>> >
>> > Because brake light bulbs are *so* expensive...
>>
>> Damn right they are, I had to pay 75p for one last week as I didn't have my
>> £1.99 lidl spare set with me.
>> Not that it helped as I  slammed the door after changing the lamp and the
>> door lock broke and I couldn't get in and out and it had to go to the garage
>> anyway.
>
>Don't forget how TIME CONSUMING replacing a brake light can be.
>

have you ever tried changing the brake lights bulbs on a Land Rover4
Discovery with the rear seats fitted.  That is time consuming.......
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:19:21 +0000, Abo <no@spam.thanks> wrote:

>Phil Kyle wrote:
>> Harry Bloomfield  wrote in
>> news:mn.c3917d7bb2571695.8412@tiscali.co.uk: 
>> 
>>> Brian explained :
>>>> No surprise there really, it has long been known that the life of a
>>>> bulb is inversely proportional to the supply voltage.
>>>> Also most bulbs fail when turned on, and brake lights get turned on
>>>> and off more than any other bulb in the vehicle.
>>> The brake light bulbs are also 'over run' on the voltage/run with 
>>> hotter filaments, to get brighter light output so they will not last
>>> as long as the tail lights. Another good reason to make full use of
>>> the handbrake.

Car is an auto, so the brakes are used more out of necessity.
>
>Because brake light bulbs are *so* expensive...

Not the expense. It's the aggravation of removing the light cluster to
change them. Only to find, two weeks later, that the other side has
gone... ;-)
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