Just on a point of curiosity I thought I would ask the question! I drop in 
most days to this newsgroup, as I have for many years,  but it seems a 
shadow of its former self. Whilst there are still some regulars here there 
seem to be a lot of the previous regular users not now posting, not least 
Dave Fawthrop! Also what happen to Motorhome Life who use to plague us!

David - Milton Keynes
www.caravantravels.co.uk

"David Klyne"  wrote in message 
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not least
> Dave Fawthrop!

There was a post saying he had died.

Also he did a lot of posts that upset a lot of people over a few days.

Regards
David

David,

I think some of the regulars have gone to http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk

I think the web based nature of ukcampsite makes it easier to use.  Lots of 
web newbie's know nothing of news groups and news readers and are happy to 
do everything from their web browser. Personally, I'm all in favour of 
making information accessible!

BTW, you web site updates this year are very entertaining!

Alan

Visit Our Website


"David Klyne"  wrote in message 
news:13k3mtfs4pjlc76@corp.supernews.com...
> Just on a point of curiosity I thought I would ask the question! I drop in 
> most days to this newsgroup, as I have for many years,  but it seems a 
> shadow of its former self. Whilst there are still some regulars here there 
> seem to be a lot of the previous regular users not now posting, not least 
> Dave Fawthrop! Also what happen to Motorhome Life who use to plague us!
>
> David - Milton Keynes
> www.caravantravels.co.uk
>

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:21:08 -0000, "aland" 
wrote:

>David,
>
>I think some of the regulars have gone to http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk
>
>I think the web based nature of ukcampsite makes it easier to use. 

The web based client is clumsy and cumbersome when compared to using a
proper newsreader.

> Lots of 
>web newbie's know nothing of news groups and news readers and are happy to 
>do everything from their web browser. Personally, I'm all in favour of 
>making information accessible!

Which is what newsnet is all about

 
Bill Lord
I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money

e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk 
( Get rid of the spaces  and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots )

Sorry Bill, don't agree.

I'm an IT professional and working with the great unwashed has taught me 
that usability is the name of the game!  Your average punter doesn't want to 
learn how to set up a news reader. They think that the web 'should just 
work' and the web for them is what you get when you start IE7.


Alan


"bill lord"  wrote in message 
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> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:21:08 -0000, "aland" 
> wrote:
>
>>David,
>>
>>I think some of the regulars have gone to http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk
>>
>>I think the web based nature of ukcampsite makes it easier to use.
>
> The web based client is clumsy and cumbersome when compared to using a
> proper newsreader.
>
>> Lots of
>>web newbie's know nothing of news groups and news readers and are happy to
>>do everything from their web browser. Personally, I'm all in favour of
>>making information accessible!
>
> Which is what newsnet is all about
>
>
> Bill Lord
> I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money
>
> e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
> ( Get rid of the spaces  and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots )

I'm with Bill Lord on this one, Newsgroups present the messages to the user 
to read or ignore, web based forums have to be navigated thus time consuming.
IE7 - is how Bill Gates decided that the public should use the web!
IT professional - someone who once worked in PC World on Saturdays!
Users should be encouraged to think for themselves, remember Bill 
Shakespeare never attended media / drama classes



Roy


aland said the following on 16/12/2007 01:35:
> Sorry Bill, don't agree.
> 
> I'm an IT professional and working with the great unwashed has taught me 
> that usability is the name of the game!  Your average punter doesn't want to 
> learn how to set up a news reader. They think that the web 'should just 
> work' and the web for them is what you get when you start IE7.
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> "bill lord"  wrote in message 
> news:d4p8m3dr3vk3dm1ip4vghvoe96rupqs9b2@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:21:08 -0000, "aland" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I think some of the regulars have gone to http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk
>>>
>>> I think the web based nature of ukcampsite makes it easier to use.
>> The web based client is clumsy and cumbersome when compared to using a
>> proper newsreader.
>>
>>> Lots of
>>> web newbie's know nothing of news groups and news readers and are happy to
>>> do everything from their web browser. Personally, I'm all in favour of
>>> making information accessible!
>> Which is what newsnet is all about
>>
>>
>> Bill Lord
>> I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money
>>
>> e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
>> ( Get rid of the spaces  and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots ) 
> 
>

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"Roy"  wrote in message 
news:4764fad1$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> I'm with Bill Lord on this one, Newsgroups present the messages to the 
> user to read or ignore, web based forums have to be navigated thus time 
> consuming.
> IE7 - is how Bill Gates decided that the public should use the web!
> IT professional - someone who once worked in PC World on Saturdays!
> Users should be encouraged to think for themselves, remember Bill 
> Shakespeare never attended media / drama classes
>
>
>
> Roy


Wasn't he the one who pinched someone else's work ?

Tom said the following on 16/12/2007 10:40:
> Snipped
> 
> "Roy"  wrote in message 
> news:4764fad1$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> I'm with Bill Lord on this one, Newsgroups present the messages to the 
>> user to read or ignore, web based forums have to be navigated thus time 
>> consuming.
>> IE7 - is how Bill Gates decided that the public should use the web!
>> IT professional - someone who once worked in PC World on Saturdays!
>> Users should be encouraged to think for themselves, remember Bill 
>> Shakespeare never attended media / drama classes
>>
>>
>>
>> Roy
> 
> 
> Wasn't he the one who pinched someone else's work ? 
> 
> 
Bill Gates or Bill Shakespeare?

Roy

And I'm with you Roy, and Bill

Hugh
ex-IT professional (proper computers)

In message <4764fad1$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, Roy 
 writes
>I'm with Bill Lord on this one, Newsgroups present the messages to the 
>user to read or ignore, web based forums have to be navigated thus time 
>consuming.
>IE7 - is how Bill Gates decided that the public should use the web!
>IT professional - someone who once worked in PC World on Saturdays!
>Users should be encouraged to think for themselves, remember Bill 
>Shakespeare never attended media / drama classes
>
>
>
>Roy
>
>
>aland said the following on 16/12/2007 01:35:
>> Sorry Bill, don't agree.
>>  I'm an IT professional and working with the great unwashed has 
>>taught me  that usability is the name of the game!  Your average 
>>punter doesn't want to  learn how to set up a news reader. They think 
>>that the web 'should just  work' and the web for them is what you get 
>>when you start IE7.
>>   Alan
>>   "bill lord"  wrote in message 
>>news:d4p8m3dr3vk3dm1ip4vghvoe96rupqs9b2@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:21:08 -0000, "aland" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I think some of the regulars have gone to http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> I think the web based nature of ukcampsite makes it easier to use.
>>> The web based client is clumsy and cumbersome when compared to using a
>>> proper newsreader.
>>>
>>>> Lots of
>>>> web newbie's know nothing of news groups and news readers and are happy to
>>>> do everything from their web browser. Personally, I'm all in favour of
>>>> making information accessible!
>>> Which is what newsnet is all about
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Lord
>>> I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money
>>>
>>> e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
>>> ( Get rid of the spaces  and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots 
>>>
>>

-- 
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

In message <476523a9$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, Roy 
 writes
>Tom said the following on 16/12/2007 10:40:
>> Snipped
>>  "Roy"  wrote in message 
>>news:4764fad1$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>> I'm with Bill Lord on this one, Newsgroups present the messages to 
>>>the  user to read or ignore, web based forums have to be navigated 
>>>thus time  consuming.
>>> IE7 - is how Bill Gates decided that the public should use the web!
>>> IT professional - someone who once worked in PC World on Saturdays!
>>> Users should be encouraged to think for themselves, remember Bill 
>>>Shakespeare never attended media / drama classes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Roy
>>   Wasn't he the one who pinched someone else's work ?
>Bill Gates or Bill Shakespeare?
>
>Roy
ROTFL
-- 
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:53:35 -0000, "David Klyne"
 wrote:

>Just on a point of curiosity I thought I would ask the question! I drop in 
>most days to this newsgroup, as I have for many years,  but it seems a 
>shadow of its former self. Whilst there are still some regulars here there 
>seem to be a lot of the previous regular users not now posting, not least 
>Dave Fawthrop! Also what happen to Motorhome Life who use to plague us!
>
>David - Milton Keynes
>www.caravantravels.co.uk 
>
Raises hand....Still here and listening - as always!

Neil

(Reply via NG please)

"Neil"  wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:53:35 -0000, "David Klyne"
>  wrote:
>
>>Just on a point of curiosity I thought I would ask the question! I drop in
>>most days to this newsgroup, as I have for many years,  but it seems a
>>shadow of its former self. Whilst there are still some regulars here there
>>seem to be a lot of the previous regular users not now posting, not least
>>Dave Fawthrop! Also what happen to Motorhome Life who use to plague us!
>>
>>David - Milton Keynes
>>www.caravantravels.co.uk
>>
> Raises hand....Still here and listening - as always!
>
> Neil
>
> (Reply via NG please)

I'm lurking

As usual

But it has got rather quiet

Perhaps my kill files are working well

By the way I use Outlook Distress 6

AND It's doing just fine

;~))


DieSea

In message <4765abdc$0$13938$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, DieSea 
<DieSea.NoSpamPlease@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> writes
>
>"Neil"  wrote in message
>news:sl8bm35711jqj6f721ncltfsqvjtm3sv49@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:53:35 -0000, "David Klyne"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>Just on a point of curiosity I thought I would ask the question! I drop in
>>>most days to this newsgroup, as I have for many years,  but it seems a
>>>shadow of its former self. Whilst there are still some regulars here there
>>>seem to be a lot of the previous regular users not now posting, not least
>>>Dave Fawthrop! Also what happen to Motorhome Life who use to plague us!
>>>
>>>David - Milton Keynes
>>>www.caravantravels.co.uk
>>>
>> Raises hand....Still here and listening - as always!
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> (Reply via NG please)
>
>I'm lurking
>
>As usual
>
>But it has got rather quiet
>
>Perhaps my kill files are working well
>
>By the way I use Outlook Distress 6
>
>AND It's doing just fine
>
>;~))
>
>
>DieSea
>
>
Just a quiet time of year
-- 
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

hugh said the following on 16/12/2007 19:50:
> And I'm with you Roy, and Bill
> 
> Hugh
> ex-IT professional (proper computers)
> 
>
Proper computers! - the first one I was involved with installing (it came 
'flat packed') used cold cathode tubes for bit shift registers and memory 
the 'CPU'(a motley collection of reed relays) was timed from an 
electromechanical wall clock with a 1 second pulse (1hz) that read the 
output and reset the tubes transferring the information to 5 bit punched 
tape. The 'software' being a series of movable wire links.

Roy

"Roy"  wrote in message 
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> hugh said the following on 16/12/2007 19:50:
>> And I'm with you Roy, and Bill
>>
>> Hugh
>> ex-IT professional (proper computers)
>>
> Proper computers! - the first one I was involved with installing (it came 
> 'flat packed') used cold cathode tubes for bit shift registers and memory 
> the 'CPU'(a motley collection of reed relays) was timed from an 
> electromechanical wall clock with a 1 second pulse (1hz) that read the 
> output and reset the tubes transferring the information to 5 bit punched 
> tape. The 'software' being a series of movable wire links.
>
> Roy

now being used by talktalk to manage their internet backhaul

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:27:11 -0000, "tony h"  wrote:

>
>"Roy"  wrote in message 
>news:4766bf40$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> hugh said the following on 16/12/2007 19:50:
>>> And I'm with you Roy, and Bill
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> ex-IT professional (proper computers)
>>>
>> Proper computers! - the first one I was involved with installing (it came 
>> 'flat packed') used cold cathode tubes for bit shift registers and memory 
>> the 'CPU'(a motley collection of reed relays) was timed from an 
>> electromechanical wall clock with a 1 second pulse (1hz) that read the 
>> output and reset the tubes transferring the information to 5 bit punched 
>> tape. The 'software' being a series of movable wire links.
>>
>> Roy
>
>now being used by talktalk to manage their internet backhaul 
>

I didn't realise they were so advanced. 
Bill Lord
I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money

e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk 
( Get rid of the spaces  and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots )

tony h said the following on 18/12/2007 12:27:
> "Roy"  wrote in message 
> news:4766bf40$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> hugh said the following on 16/12/2007 19:50:
>>> And I'm with you Roy, and Bill
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> ex-IT professional (proper computers)
>>>
>> Proper computers! - the first one I was involved with installing (it came 
>> 'flat packed') used cold cathode tubes for bit shift registers and memory 
>> the 'CPU'(a motley collection of reed relays) was timed from an 
>> electromechanical wall clock with a 1 second pulse (1hz) that read the 
>> output and reset the tubes transferring the information to 5 bit punched 
>> tape. The 'software' being a series of movable wire links.
>>
>> Roy
> 
> now being used by talktalk to manage their internet backhaul 
> 
> 
I'll give em a ring - see if they want any Tech support!

Roy