Currently we have one of those plastic concertina-ing containers for 
drinking water, something like this:
<http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=1465> 
although that's not our model.

I hate it, mostly because it usually has to be lifted up and held to run 
water from, which the kids can't manage and spill water everywhere.

Anyone got anything better?  Needs to be reasonably large - this is for 
a family of five with a trailer; I'm not talking backpacking!  ISTR I 
once saw a collapsible container suspended within some sort of tripod - 
that would probably be ideal provided its footprint wasn't too big, but 
I can't find one anywhere.

Thanks for any tips
David

Lobster wrote:
> Currently we have one of those plastic concertina-ing containers for 
> drinking water, something like this:
> <http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=1465> 
> although that's not our model.
> 
> I hate it, mostly because it usually has to be lifted up and held to run 
> water from, which the kids can't manage and spill water everywhere.
> 
> Anyone got anything better?  Needs to be reasonably large - this is for 
> a family of five with a trailer; I'm not talking backpacking!  ISTR I 
> once saw a collapsible container suspended within some sort of tripod - 
> that would probably be ideal provided its footprint wasn't too big, but 
> I can't find one anywhere.
> 
> Thanks for any tips

If you have the room, why have a collapsing one? - Just get a 5l water 
pot: either a full one from your local supermarket, or in my case from 
someone guebjvat bar njnl.

Lobster said...
> Currently we have one of those plastic concertina-ing containers for 
> drinking water, something like this:
> <http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=1465> 
> although that's not our model.
> 
> I hate it, mostly because it usually has to be lifted up and held to run 
> water from, which the kids can't manage and spill water everywhere.
> 
I don't have the concertina one (mine's just a cube) but I can't lift it 
properly when it's full or even half full.

Have one of those little cheap folding stools or similar; put water 
thingy on its side on said LCFSorS; turn tap on or off as required.

That's what we do, anyway.

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Esra Sdrawkcab said...
>  guebjvat bar njnl.
> 
Bzzzt - wrong group?

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Fran wrote:
> Esra Sdrawkcab said...
>>  guebjvat bar njnl.
>>
> Bzzzt - wrong group?
> 

It'sa me natural tendency - I can't bring myself to write it in plain.

Esra Sdrawkcab said...
> Fran wrote:
> > Esra Sdrawkcab said...
> >>  guebjvat bar njnl.
> >>
> > Bzzzt - wrong group?
> > 
> 
> It'sa me natural tendency - I can't bring myself to write it in plain.
> 
Aye, I knows what yer means innit :)
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Fran wrote:

>Lobster said...
>> Currently we have one of those plastic concertina-ing containers for 
>> drinking water, something like this:
>> <http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=1465> 
>> although that's not our model.
>> 
>> I hate it, mostly because it usually has to be lifted up and held to run 
>> water from, which the kids can't manage and spill water everywhere.
>> 
>I don't have the concertina one (mine's just a cube) but I can't lift it 
>properly when it's full or even half full.
>
>Have one of those little cheap folding stools or similar; put water 
>thingy on its side on said LCFSorS; turn tap on or off as required.

<waves> Hello Fran long time!

We used to have one of those collapsable cube things when I was a
nipper. I think it lived on a shelf of the Beanstalk camp kitchen and
yes it was the very divil of a thing to move about when full. Ooof!

I have a water bag that I use to save me from constant trips to the
tap on sites or stream when wild camping. When I'm on a site it gets
hung over the door mirror of my car. I changed vehicles a while back
to one with bigger mirrors and so had to add a loop of cord to go over
the mirror.

You could hang one or two of these from a suitable place.
http://www.gelert.com/products/Roll_Up_Water_Carrier.aspx
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On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:46:24 +0100, Phil Cook
 wrote:

>I have a water bag that I use to save me from constant trips to the
>tap on sites or stream when wild camping. When I'm on a site it gets
>hung over the door mirror of my car. I changed vehicles a while back
>to one with bigger mirrors and so had to add a loop of cord to go over
>the mirror.
>
>You could hang one or two of these from a suitable place.
>http://www.gelert.com/products/Roll_Up_Water_Carrier.aspx

doug:
yes, that's what I used when I was camping (unfortunately forced to
finally give up last year for various reasons). Mind you I'm really
surprised you could hang it from the door mirror when full without it
ripping the thing off! - it's pretty heavy!

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Doug Paulley said...
> when I was camping (unfortunately forced to
> finally give up last year for various reasons).
> 
I'm sorry to hear that, Doug.  Can you manage hostels etc if they've got 
ground floor rooms?
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Phil Cook said...
> Fran wrote:
> 
> >Lobster said...
> >> Currently we have one of those plastic concertina-ing containers for 
> >> drinking water, something like this:
> >> <http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=1465> 
> >> although that's not our model.
> >> 
> >> I hate it, mostly because it usually has to be lifted up and held to run 
> >> water from, which the kids can't manage and spill water everywhere.
> >> 
> >I don't have the concertina one (mine's just a cube) but I can't lift it 
> >properly when it's full or even half full.
> >
> >Have one of those little cheap folding stools or similar; put water 
> >thingy on its side on said LCFSorS; turn tap on or off as required.
> 
> <waves> Hello Fran long time!

Hello Phil :)
 
I unsubbed from urw a while back, because I realised that I simply 
wasn't going to get out walking unless I had someone to walk with - and 
I put a load of weight on until even Bill could leave me standing :(

I've been swimming a fair bit lately though, and I've been using the 
AquaGym in the pool (odd thing, having instruments of torture in a 
swimming pool, but the idea's slowly growing on me), and when I can get 
over feeling starving hungry the moment I leave the water I may manage 
to lose some flab.  You never know, I may even get back out on them thar 
hills...

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On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:37:04 +0100, Fran
 wrote:

>I'm sorry to hear that, Doug.  Can you manage hostels etc if they've got 
>ground floor rooms?

Not really :-( Ta for the thought though. 

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Doug Paulley said...
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:37:04 +0100, Fran
>  wrote:
> 
> >I'm sorry to hear that, Doug.  Can you manage hostels etc if they've got 
> >ground floor rooms?
> 
> Not really :-( Ta for the thought though. 
> 
Bugger.  That's a shame, that is.

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Fran wrote:

>Phil Cook said...

>> <waves> Hello Fran long time!
>
>Hello Phil :)
> 
>I unsubbed from urw a while back, because I realised that I simply 
>wasn't going to get out walking unless I had someone to walk with - and 
>I put a load of weight on until even Bill could leave me standing :(

I heard tales that PS put on some weight too and I'm not as fit as I
once was, but I keep bagging away at the Munros.

>I've been swimming a fair bit lately though, and I've been using the 
>AquaGym in the pool (odd thing, having instruments of torture in a 
>swimming pool, but the idea's slowly growing on me), and when I can get 
>over feeling starving hungry the moment I leave the water I may manage 
>to lose some flab. 

Keep away from that tempting ice-cream ;-)

>You never know, I may even get back out on them thar 
>hills...

In the meantime have a shuftie at some of my virtual hills...

http://www.therewaslight.co.uk/pans/pans.htm

Phil Cook said...
> Fran wrote:
> 
> >Phil Cook said...
> 
> >> <waves> Hello Fran long time!
> >
> >Hello Phil :)
> > 
> >I unsubbed from urw a while back, because I realised that I simply 
> >wasn't going to get out walking unless I had someone to walk with - and 
> >I put a load of weight on until even Bill could leave me standing :(
> 
> I heard tales that PS put on some weight too and I'm not as fit as I
> once was, but I keep bagging away at the Munros.

PS really *needed* to put on weight though.  Too many idiotic faddish 
diets are not good for anyone, least of all someone as neurotic as he 
can be.

> Keep away from that tempting ice-cream ;-)

<guilty look> Have you been peeking through my window? </look>
 
> >You never know, I may even get back out on them thar 
> >hills...
> 
> In the meantime have a shuftie at some of my virtual hills...
> 
> http://www.therewaslight.co.uk/pans/pans.htm
> 
Ooh, pretty :)

I shall have to make more of an effort to acquire some muscle and 
stamina, otherwise I'll never see any of that for myself - and that, I 
think, would be a real shame.

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On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:12:57 +0100, Phil Cook
 wrote:

>
>>> <waves> Hello Fran long time!
>>
>>Hello Phil :)
>> 
>>I unsubbed from urw a while back, because I realised that I simply 
>>wasn't going to get out walking unless I had someone to walk with - and 
>>I put a load of weight on until even Bill could leave me standing :(
>
>I heard tales that PS put on some weight too

That'll be because he's on the Lard Diet, or the Sit Looking At
Computers Diet, or the Buy More Gear But Don't Use It Diet.

Maybe he'll go for a walk one day!  

(Maybe I should cross-post this to urw; this is the sort of ribbing I
would normally give him directly not behind his back!)

Judith

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:46:24 +0100, Phil Cook
 wrote:

>I think it lived on a shelf of the Beanstalk camp kitchen

Ooh - someone else had one of those? My parents have now given up
camping and offered me all their kit.  The beanstalk is something I
left in their attic for the time being, because we don't really camp
like that.  

Never found much about them on the internet, either.

n

Niles wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:46:24 +0100, Phil Cook
> wrote:
>
>>I think it lived on a shelf of the Beanstalk camp kitchen
>
>Ooh - someone else had one of those? My parents have now given up
>camping and offered me all their kit.  The beanstalk is something I
>left in their attic for the time being, because we don't really camp
>like that.

You mean you do the lightweight thing rather than the steel-framed
tent you can stand up in.

We had a massssssive frame tent and a massive trailer to carry it and
all the gear in. I have vivid memories of turning the tent though 90
degrees one night during a gale after we got tired of holding it down.
>
>Never found much about them on the internet, either.

I couldn't find a picture to illustrate my post :-(
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:36:32 +0100, Phil Cook
 wrote:

>You mean you do the lightweight thing rather than the steel-framed
>tent you can stand up in.

Well, partly that, and partly that often when we camp we eat in pubs
and don't do a huge amount of cooking, so an entire kitchen complete
with washing up facilities isn't really what what we need.

>We had a massssssive frame tent and a massive trailer to carry it and
>all the gear in. I have vivid memories of turning the tent though 90
>degrees one night during a gale after we got tired of holding it down.

:)  

We were camping during Hurricane Charley in 1987?  20 years ago?  We
were quite small, so it fell to the aunties and uncles to hold tents
down while we were banished to the sticky plastic back seat of the
estate car Dad had borrowed from Granpa. Qute a lot of the
lighter-weight tents had already disappeared into the trees, so the
extended family ended up doing duty holding down the canvass
monstrosity.  Grandad's wellies filled up completely; if anyone had
unzipped the tent, it would have taken off.  Etc, etc.

n

Judith said...
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:12:57 +0100, Phil Cook
>  wrote:
> 
> >
> >>> <waves> Hello Fran long time!
> >>
> >>Hello Phil :)
> >> 
> >>I unsubbed from urw a while back, because I realised that I simply 
> >>wasn't going to get out walking unless I had someone to walk with - and 
> >>I put a load of weight on until even Bill could leave me standing :(
> >
> >I heard tales that PS put on some weight too
> 
> That'll be because he's on the Lard Diet, or the Sit Looking At
> Computers Diet, or the Buy More Gear But Don't Use It Diet.

Giggle

> Maybe he'll go for a walk one day!  

Nah, don't be silly - why would he want to be doing a thing like that?  
Besides which, it'll be too hot now, and too dry.
 
> (Maybe I should cross-post this to urw; this is the sort of ribbing I
> would normally give him directly not behind his back!)
> 
Good for you :)

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On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:39:25 +0100, Lobster
 wrote:

>Currently we have one of those plastic concertina-ing containers for 
>drinking water, something like this:
><http://www.worldofcamping.co.uk/shop/Detail.asp?ProductID=1465> 
>although that's not our model.
>
>I hate it, mostly because it usually has to be lifted up and held to run 
>water from, which the kids can't manage and spill water everywhere.
>
>Anyone got anything better?  Needs to be reasonably large - this is for 
>a family of five with a trailer; I'm not talking backpacking!  ISTR I 
>once saw a collapsible container suspended within some sort of tripod - 
>that would probably be ideal provided its footprint wasn't too big, but 
>I can't find one anywhere.
>
>Thanks for any tips
>David

Hi,

Since getting a couple of second-hand, ex army, plastic 20litre water
jerry cans, I cannot recommend them highly enough.  Water stored in
one these stays fresh for absolutely ages.

If you can get hold of the older ones with two caps one about an inch
and one about 2 inches diameter, then a tap(optional extra) from one
of the old style 29litre Aquarolls also fits the jerry can and you can
have the can on it's side and just use the tap - easy.  Only problem
is if you don't already have the tap, you won't be able to get one, as
they were discontinued some years ago.

An even better solution using the same plastic jerry can is to get
hold of a spare cap for an older, narrow neck Aquaroll.  Then buy a
Whale V-pump Mk 6 GP0650.  Make a hole in the spare cap just large
enough to tightly take the cylindrical body of the V-pump.  extend the
inlet on the bottom of the V-pump so as to reach the bottom of the
jerry can.  You now have a water container with a built-in push-pull
pump faucet like the older caravans.  I've got this set-up in the back
of my Landrover for camping, picnics, etc.

Works for me!

Neil

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Fran wrote:

>Judith said...
>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:12:57 +0100, Phil Cook
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >>> <waves> Hello Fran long time!

>> >I heard tales that PS put on some weight too
>> 
>> That'll be because he's on the Lard Diet, or the Sit Looking At
>> Computers Diet, or the Buy More Gear But Don't Use It Diet.
>
>Giggle
>
>> Maybe he'll go for a walk one day! 
>
>Nah, don't be silly - why would he want to be doing a thing like that?  
>Besides which, it'll be too hot now, and too dry.

Also the grass will be too green to go with the blue sky >:-)
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Phil Cook said...
> Fran wrote:
> 
> >Judith said...
> >> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:12:57 +0100, Phil Cook
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >>> <waves> Hello Fran long time!
> 
> >> >I heard tales that PS put on some weight too
> >> 
> >> That'll be because he's on the Lard Diet, or the Sit Looking At
> >> Computers Diet, or the Buy More Gear But Don't Use It Diet.
> >
> >Giggle
> >
> >> Maybe he'll go for a walk one day! 
> >
> >Nah, don't be silly - why would he want to be doing a thing like that?  
> >Besides which, it'll be too hot now, and too dry.
> 
> Also the grass will be too green to go with the blue sky >:-)
> 
...which will mess up the colours of the photos taken with the XYZ film 
he favours at the moment.

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