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date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:15:06 +0100,    group: uk.legal.moderated        back       
Whos Legally ResponsibleFor Safety O/H BT Wire ?   
I have recently had my wooden fascia boards replaced on my house with UPVC, 
and like many people the overhead BT wire to the house had to be reaffixed. 
In my case the installer of the fascias wrapped the wire around a screw 
which he bolted into the brickwork. Looking at other similar properties in 
my area three or four had similar arrangements  to me but the majority had 
plates or eyelets attached directly to the fascia boards. I suspect very few 
of these  fixings were done by BT.

The point of me writing here is to ask would anyone (myself ?) be held 
responsible if an accident was caused by the wire snapping at the house, 
falling across the garden and road ? This must happen but you don't hear 
about it.

Should I ask BT to come and fix it "properly" and pay ££££££££££'s in the 
process for peace of mind ?

M.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:15:06 +0100   author:   M not_me_hereagain@this address.com

Re: Whos Legally ResponsibleFor Safety O/H BT Wire ?   
>I have recently had my wooden fascia boards replaced on my house with UPVC,
> and like many people the overhead BT wire to the house had to be 
> reaffixed.
> In my case the installer of the fascias wrapped the wire around a screw
> which he bolted into the brickwork. Looking at other similar properties in
> my area three or four had similar arrangements  to me but the majority had
> plates or eyelets attached directly to the fascia boards. I suspect very 
> few
> of these  fixings were done by BT.
>
> The point of me writing here is to ask would anyone (myself ?) be held
> responsible if an accident was caused by the wire snapping at the house,
> falling across the garden and road ? This must happen but you don't hear
> about it.

You could be.

> Should I ask BT to come and fix it "properly" and pay ££££££££££'s in the
> process for peace of mind ?

Remember that your contract with BT does not allow you, or anyone employed 
by you, to move or alter the BT line. It would be best to bite the bullet 
and get them to do it.

Peter Crosland
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:00:14 +0100   author:   Peter Crosland

Re: Whos Legally ResponsibleFor Safety O/H BT Wire ?   
M wrote:
> I suspect very few of these  fixings were done by BT.
> 
> 

I suspect you suspect incorrectly, the standard bracket for BT for many 
many years has been a small triangular bracket with 3 fixing holes & a 
metal loop attached to it for fastening the dropwire. If your 
builder/installer has just fastened the dropwire to a screw into the 
wall there is a risk it could pull out of the wall depending on the 
angle & the length of the dropwire run, it is surprising how heavy these 
wires get. Add to that the wind pull on the wire & depending where you 
are, they can ice up & then get very heavy. What I don't understand 
really is why your builder/installer didn't just remove the triangular 
bracket & re-fix it to the wall.

Alan...
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:30:10 +0100   author:   Alan Smith

Re: Whos Legally ResponsibleFor Safety O/H BT Wire ?   
"Alan Smith"  wrote in message news:g4o3um$2vq$1@aioe.org...
> I suspect you suspect incorrectly, the standard bracket for BT for many
> many years has been a small triangular bracket with 3 fixing holes & a
> metal loop attached to it for fastening the dropwire. If your
> builder/installer has just fastened the dropwire to a screw into the wall
> there is a risk it could pull out of the wall depending on the angle & the
> length of the dropwire run, it is surprising how heavy these wires get.
> Add to that the wind pull on the wire & depending where you are, they can
> ice up & then get very heavy. What I don't understand really is why your
> builder/installer didn't just remove the triangular bracket & re-fix it to
> the wall.
>
> Alan.
...
Original poster here:
I have seen many triangular brackets you refer to on other houses in the
street but nearly all are attached to the upvc fascia board, only  a couple
to the brick work.

When I had the old wooden fascias the dropwire was connected to the fascias
directly with a long metal strip about 3 feet long and bolted to the
fascias, must have been in situ for at least 40years.

I have written to the owner of the fascia company enclosing a photo of the
wire attached to the screw in bolt addressing my concerns regarding same.
However he only has a small work force and I can't see him questioning the
installer to a great degree regarding the problem. I'll phone him next week
if I don't hear anything.

M
date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:10:10 +0100   author:   M not_me_hereagain@this address.com

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