To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
torture children anymore.

The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
complaining and his farting.

Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".

The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
around and then releases.  Thank you.

Turk182

"Turk182"  wrote in message 
news:a24056c2-89e2-4c1c-b71b-c28e4b705c6d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> torture children anymore.
>
> The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> complaining and his farting.
>
> Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
> however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
>
> The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
> reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
> farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
> around and then releases.  Thank you.

Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.

On 6 Sep, 22:22, "mentalguy2008"  wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
>
> news:a24056c2-89e2-4c1c-b71b-c28e4b705c6d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> > yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> > elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> > torture children anymore.
>
> > The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> > hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> > complaining and his farting.
>
> > Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
> > however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
>
> > The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
> > reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
> > farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
> > around and then releases.  Thank you.
>
> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On the contrary .... but I bet you'll miss your Sun tomorrow!

"mentalguy2008"  wrote in message 
news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>
> "Turk182"  wrote in message 
> news:a24056c2-89e2-4c1c-b71b-c28e4b705c6d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
>> yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
>> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
>> torture children anymore.
>>
>> The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
>> hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
>> complaining and his farting.
>>
>> Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
>> however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
>>
>> The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
>> reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
>> farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
>> around and then releases.  Thank you.
>
> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
As are many in this group.

"R D S"  wrote in message 
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> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message 
> news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>>
>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
> As are many in this group.

Define "pro-paedo".

"Michael C"  wrote in message 
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> "R D S"  wrote in message 
> news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message 
>> news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>>>
>>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
>> As are many in this group.
>
> Define "pro-paedo".
No, thanks.

"Michael C"  wrote in message 
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> "R D S"  wrote in message 
> news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message 
>> news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>>>
>>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
>> As are many in this group.
>
> Define "pro-paedo".
>

Defensive of sex-offenders yet sneering at parents who are legitimately 
concerned for the safety of their kids.

"Turk182"  wrote in message 
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On 6 Sep, 22:22, "mentalguy2008"  wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
>
> news:a24056c2-89e2-4c1c-b71b-c28e4b705c6d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > To explain. A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> > yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> > elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> > torture children anymore.
>
> > The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> > hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> > complaining and his farting.
>
> > Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup. There is
> > however a shortened version of this word and it is: "Sun reader".
>
> > The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
> > reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
> > farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
> > around and then releases. Thank you.
>
> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>On the contrary .... but I bet you'll miss your Sun tomorrow!

So we're all either pro-paedo, or Sun readers? Nothing in-between?

I'd like to think there are plenty of people in this country who object to 
children being abused, but don't read the Sun.

"mentalguy2008"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Michael C"  wrote in message 
> news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> Define "pro-paedo".
>>
>
> Defensive of sex-offenders yet sneering at parents who are legitimately 
> concerned for the safety of their kids.

That's... slightly vague.  Give me an example of what you mean.

"Turk182"  wrote in message 
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> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles

That is not correct.  Most who rant about them often have something to
hide.

> yes but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> torture children anymore.
>

Teachers never did torture children.  You need to very quickly sort out
in your own head the word you are giving a definition of.  This is a
completely different subject.


> The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> complaining and his farting.
>

I take it you spend a lot of time with them or have intimate knowledge.
You must as the results of your research seem to be very detailed.
Is this a case of "oh a friend has a problem" when really it is that person?


> Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
> however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
>

I always laugh at people who refused to read or buy the sun, they
still kept listening and phoning talk radio years ago.
No one could use your term as you can't prove any of the research.
You seem to single out a definition of a word, then add a lot of
unrelated words, then suggest people compare it to another term.
Have you sen your GP?  I would prescribe you some anti-psychotic
medication or have you sectioned immediately as your behaviour is
isturbing and quite classic symptoms of an illness.

> The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
> reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
> farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
> around and then releases.  Thank you.
>

Oh you definitely do appear quite confused.  With the correct medication
you can be helped, so all is not lost.  Thousands of people displaying
similar characteristics to you are treated each year.  They soon learn to
fit in to society again and with supervision can lead a relatively normal
life posing no risk to other members of the community.  I wish you luck.

> Turk182

"R D S"  wrote in message 
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> "Michael C"  wrote in message 
> news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "R D S"  wrote in message 
>> news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message 
>>> news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
>>> As are many in this group.
>>
>> Define "pro-paedo".
> No, thanks.
>
Only because you can't and have nothing constructive to add.  Typical !
Why make claims if you can't back them up?

On Sep 6, 11:45 pm, "mentalguy2008" 
wrote:
> "Michael C"  wrote in message
>
> news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > "R D S"  wrote in message
> >news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
> >> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message
> >>news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>
> >>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
> >> As are many in this group.
>
> > Define "pro-paedo".
>
> Defensive of sex-offenders yet sneering at parents who are legitimately
> concerned for the safety of their kids.

I am 'pro-paedo' and completely understand such legitimate concerns,
however, those are a rare commodity.

It is the illegitimate concerns, money-making rackets and prejudice
which are the problem.

WM
www.critest.com

On Sep 7, 12:24 am, Webmanager_CritEst  wrote:
> On Sep 6, 11:45 pm, "mentalguy2008" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Michael C"  wrote in message
>
> >news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > > "R D S"  wrote in message
> > >news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
> > >> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message
> > >>news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>
> > >>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
> > >> As are many in this group.
>
> > > Define "pro-paedo".
>
> > Defensive of sex-offenders yet sneering at parents who are legitimately
> > concerned for the safety of their kids.
>
> I am 'pro-paedo' and completely understand such legitimate concerns,
> however, those are a rare commodity.
>
> It is the illegitimate concerns, money-making rackets and prejudice
> which are the problem.
>
> WMwww.critest.com

... and I read The Sun, online.

WM

Ian wrote:
> "R D S"  wrote in message
> news:6ige8nFldj54U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Michael C"  wrote in message
>> news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "R D S"  wrote in message
>>> news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message
>>>> news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
>>>> As are many in this group.
>>>
>>> Define "pro-paedo".
>> No, thanks.
>>
> Only because you can't and have nothing constructive to add.  Typical
> ! Why make claims if you can't back them up?

There is nothing constructive to add.
Are you pro paedo? Do you want to define it?

On 6 Sep, 23:45, "mentalguy2008"  wrote:
> "Michael C"  wrote in message
>
> news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > "R D S"  wrote in message
> >news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
> >> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message
> >>news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>
> >>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
> >> As are many in this group.
>
> > Define "pro-paedo".
>
> Defensive of sex-offenders yet sneering at parents who are legitimately
> concerned for the safety of their kids.

Children face death, sexual and physical abuse, humiliation,
starvation and neglect from parents more than any other group.  The
paedo threat, althoug real is not the big story - the big story is
that it is not strangers - but parents who are destroying, tortureing
and yes ..kidnapping their own children!

So who peddles the myth.  It's a group activity, a way of people
finding a common iconic figure of hatred, that steers accusations of
poor parenting away from themselves and onto a wretched individual who
will gain no sympathy from anyone.  However, be aware that to pull
this one off, the 'system' has to make you believe the paedo is evil -
when in fact he's ill.  Also beware the whole campaign has a strong
anti-male theme.  Women have managed through slick PR, a handful of
charities and an eager BBC to convince the world that they are pure
and decent and that man is a demon, and that he's unpredictable and
dangerous.  In fact more women assault children than men and as we all
know, women can carry out murderous acts of hatred and revenge as well
as some remarkable mental and physical abuse when they think they can
get away with it.  As an expose on a women's refuge revealed, the
amount of violence metered out on children by their 'victim' mums was
horrendous.

So get it straight - what we want is prevention, ie spotting offenders
of both sexes before they damage children, and a realistic honest
exchange of information to educate the world into not scapegoating sex
offenders as this is counterproductive - it runs the risk of driving
offenders underground and away from help.  Finally, we should widen
parents knowledge of the harmful effects of the mistreatment of
children - not least of all because children from unhappy backgrounds,
albiet reared in so called 'ordinary families' become more vulnerable
to being targeted by other abusers.

Greater respect and care of the young mind = less abusers and less
abused children.

Turk182

On Sep 7, 12:08 am, "Ian"  wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
>
> Teachers never did torture children.  You need to very quickly sort out
> in your own head the word you are giving a definition of.  This is a
> completely different subject.
>
========================================

Who are you and what age are you?????

I was tortured by my  teachers and all the other boys in my school
were tortured by the so-called teachers. All Europeans over a certain
age were tortured by their teachers, but many will now deny it because
of the embarrassing implications of admitting that torturing
schoolchildren was overt, institutionalised state policy, indicating
that an entire nation/society/civilisation had gone completely
insane.

And so we pretend.

But it happened. I was tortured by my teachers and all other Europeans
over a certain age were tortured by our teachers.

You must be very young.

On Sep 7, 12:24 am, Webmanager_CritEst  wrote:
[abridged]
> I am 'pro-paedo' and completely understand such legitimate concerns,
> however, those are a rare commodity.

> WMwww.critest.com

===============================================

So Mister Webmanager has finally said something definite about where
he stands and what his agenda is:

"I am 'pro-paedo'"

---------------------------------------------------------------------

I liked you much better before you said that, Mr Webmanager.

Well then what exactly is your agenda, Mr Webmanager?

As I said previously, trying to get a straight answer out of Mr
Webmanager is like trying to lift mercury with a fork.

But still you have given us something to go on when you stated:

"I am 'pro-paedo'" [meaning the Webmanager has made that statement].

============================

I, Peter Newman of Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England, have stated my
agenda with perfect clarity.

I certainly am not "pro-paedo" in any sense as understood in the
present era.

I do subscribe to a certain long-term healing formula which envisages
changes in the way we relate to infants, to be established in the
future, after a prolonged period of re-education by consent.
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dddp6bt4_829zpt8ffd

On 7 Sep, 00:08, "Ian"  wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
>
> news:a24056c2-89e2-4c1c-b71b-c28e4b705c6d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
>
> That is not correct.  Most who rant about them often have something to
> hide.

Yes.  Part of themselves they are concerned about, thoughts or even
actions from the past they are psychologically trying to 'hide' from.

> > yes but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> > elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> > torture children anymore.
>
> Teachers never did torture children.  You need to very quickly sort out
> in your own head the word you are giving a definition of.  This is a
> completely different subject.

You need to understand the meaning of the word 'torture'.  Here are
some of them:

a) The deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or
mental suffering by one or more persons in an attempt to force another
person to yield information or to make a confession or for any other
reason
b) Extreme mental distress
c)Unbearable physical pain
d) Intense feelings of suffering; acute mental or physical pain

The abject cruelty inflicted physically and psychologically on
children by some teachers was plainly evident to see, if you were
there!  In one of the 7 schools I attended (3 I was moved from because
of abusive staff), had the police been involved at the time, numerous
members of staff would have been arrested.  Many of the pupils had
come from overseas and their parents were hundreds of miles away.
There was no-one there for them.  They were subject to the cruelty of
de-mobbed military thugs who had taken up teaching and couldn't abide
a child who was thin, pale or weak.  Or instread, they were hounded by
night by the sports teacher who had managed to position himself into
the role of 'responsibility' of the children who were borders.  If a
child who was caught in the trap of having an abusive or alcoholic
teacher and an abusive or alcoholic parent it was, to all intents and
purposes, living in a world which resembled a concentration camp.

> > The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> > hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> > complaining and his farting.

> I take it you spend a lot of time with them or have intimate knowledge.
> You must as the results of your research seem to be very detailed.
> Is this a case of "oh a friend has a problem" when really it is that person?

Yes. my job is understanding and working with the human on the part of
him / her they try and run away from.  People often end up looking
like they think!

> > Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
> > however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
>
> I always laugh at people who refused to read or buy the sun, they
> still kept listening and phoning talk radio years ago.

There's nothing wrong with the Sun, provided you realise is the
closest thing to an 'abuser' we have in newspaper form.  It degrades
women, it condones violence against children, it promotes gambling,
looking up skirts and supports invading countries for no reason other
than you want to play with guns.
It's only in recent years that it's stopped publishing nude pictures
of children.  It also diminishes the human condition, yet I still
glance at a discarded copy from time to time, but want to put it down
soon afterwards because life goes by far too quickly to waste on a
paper that employs twisted thinking as a form of logic.

> No one could use your term as you can't prove any of the research.

It was a little bit tongue in cheek y'know, but I suppose if you read
the Sun you may have thought it was all serious research!

> You seem to single out a definition of a word, then add a lot of
> unrelated words, then suggest people compare it to another term.
> Have you sen your GP?  I would prescribe you some anti-psychotic
> medication or have you sectioned immediately as your behaviour is
> isturbing and quite classic symptoms of an illness.

While you're there, could you also give me something for an upset
stomach?

> > The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
> > reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
> > farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
> > around and then releases.  Thank you.
>
> Oh you definitely do appear quite confused.  With the correct medication
> you can be helped, so all is not lost.  Thousands of people displaying
> similar characteristics to you are treated each year.  They soon learn to
> fit in to society again and with supervision can lead a relatively normal
> life posing no risk to other members of the community.  I wish you luck

Wil you also wish me bluebirds in the spring, to give my heart a song
to sing, and then a kiss but more than this, will you wish me love -
as you wave me goodbye?  Boo boo bi joo!

Turk182

Turk182  writes:

> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> torture children anymore.

No, a paedophobe is someone whom is afraid of (or dislikes) children.

On Sep 7, 4:51 am, Old Jinglebollocks
 wrote:
> On Sep 7, 12:24 am, Webmanager_CritEst  wrote:
> [abridged]
>
> > I am 'pro-paedo' and completely understand such legitimate concerns,
> > however, those are a rare commodity.
> > WMwww.critest.com
>
> ===============================================
>
> So Mister Webmanager has finally said something definite about where
> he stands and what his agenda is:
>
> "I am 'pro-paedo'"
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I liked you much better before you said that, Mr Webmanager.
>
> Well then what exactly is your agenda, Mr Webmanager?
>
> As I said previously, trying to get a straight answer out of Mr
> Webmanager is like trying to lift mercury with a fork.
>
> But still you have given us something to go on when you stated:
>
> "I am 'pro-paedo'" [meaning the Webmanager has made that statement].
>
> ============================
>
> I, Peter Newman of Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England, have stated my
> agenda with perfect clarity.
>
> I certainly am not "pro-paedo" in any sense as understood in the
> present era.
>
> I do subscribe to a certain long-term healing formula which envisages
> changes in the way we relate to infants, to be established in the
> future, after a prolonged period of re-education by consent.http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dddp6bt4_829zpt8ffd

What would you like to know?

WM

"Turk182"  wrote in message 
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> On 6 Sep, 23:45, "mentalguy2008"  wrote:
>> "Michael C"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> > "R D S"  wrote in message
>> >news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
>> >> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message
>> >>news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
>>
>> >>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
>> >> As are many in this group.
>>
>> > Define "pro-paedo".
>>
>> Defensive of sex-offenders yet sneering at parents who are legitimately
>> concerned for the safety of their kids.
>
> Children face death, sexual and physical abuse, humiliation,
> starvation and neglect from parents more than any other group.  The
> paedo threat, althoug real is not the big story - the big story is
> that it is not strangers - but parents who are destroying, tortureing
> and yes ..kidnapping their own children!
>
> So who peddles the myth.  It's a group activity, a way of people
> finding a common iconic figure of hatred, that steers accusations of
> poor parenting away from themselves and onto a wretched individual who
> will gain no sympathy from anyone.  However, be aware that to pull
> this one off, the 'system' has to make you believe the paedo is evil -
> when in fact he's ill.  Also beware the whole campaign has a strong
> anti-male theme.  Women have managed through slick PR, a handful of
> charities and an eager BBC to convince the world that they are pure
> and decent and that man is a demon, and that he's unpredictable and
> dangerous.  In fact more women assault children than men and as we all
> know, women can carry out murderous acts of hatred and revenge as well
> as some remarkable mental and physical abuse when they think they can
> get away with it.  As an expose on a women's refuge revealed, the
> amount of violence metered out on children by their 'victim' mums was
> horrendous.
>
> So get it straight - what we want is prevention, ie spotting offenders
> of both sexes before they damage children, and a realistic honest
> exchange of information to educate the world into not scapegoating sex
> offenders as this is counterproductive - it runs the risk of driving
> offenders underground and away from help.  Finally, we should widen
> parents knowledge of the harmful effects of the mistreatment of
> children - not least of all because children from unhappy backgrounds,
> albiet reared in so called 'ordinary families' become more vulnerable
> to being targeted by other abusers.
>
> Greater respect and care of the young mind = less abusers and less
> abused children.
>
> Turk182
>

I agree with some of your points, there is indeed widespread abuse of 
children, abuse of all types. But nobody has sympathy for a parent who 
batters their child, or neglects their child. And I'm pretty sure there'd be 
no sympathy for anyone who took photos of a child being beaten or starved, 
or anyone who downloaded those photos for their own sexual gratification.

I think it's only natural for a parent to have negative feelings for 
child-sex-offenders, same as a woman would with a rapist living next door. 
No matter how many times we're told that paedophiles "are ill", "need help 
and support" etc., there are just too many cases (and at least one in this 
group) who get caught, convicted, and emerge unremorseful, unrepentant and 
completely un-rehabilitated, even going on TV to share their view that sex 
with children is acceptable. That's what worries parents, that someone can 
be put "through the system" and come out the other side no different. And it 
seems to be a common theme that whatever they've done, it's not their fault. 
Urges, bad childhood, I was in a strange place, I was researching, I was 
stressed.

Parents have a duty and a passion for protecting their children, I know I 
do. You seem keen to make the point that parents are paranoid and bad, but 
paedophiles are merely ill, harmless and misunderstood. Am I paranoid for 
locking my car? Deadlocking my front door while I'm out? Making sure my PIN 
number isn't seen? Or am I being realistic, with a natural and instinctive 
aversion to car thieves, burglars and fraudsters? My car, possessions and 
money aren't even important compared to my kids, so it naturally follows 
that I want to take every precaution to protect them from any kind of abuse. 
And if systems like CRB checking or public databases help to keep sex 
offenders away from anyone's kids, then that's a good thing. I don't care if 
a child-sex-offender loses his job or his reputation, plenty of people lose 
their jobs and reputations for other reasons and don't whine about it or 
paint themselves as some sort of misunderstood victim of circumstance. They 
knew the risks. Similarly, I don't suppose sex offenders, burglars, pub 
fighters or thieves spend too much time worrying about their victims.

"Turk182"  wrote in message 
news:0c74fda8-f98f-4ec4-b9ac-b6d84746797f@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On 7 Sep, 00:08, "Ian"  wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
>
> news:a24056c2-89e2-4c1c-b71b-c28e4b705c6d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > To explain. A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
>

>There's nothing wrong with the Sun, provided you realise is the
>closest thing to an 'abuser' we have in newspaper form.  It degrades
>women, it condones violence against children, it promotes gambling,

How does it condone violence against children?

"Graham Murray"  wrote in message 
news:87abek9ydy.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk...
> Turk182  writes:
>
>> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
>> yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
>> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
>> torture children anymore.
>
> No, a paedophobe is someone whom is afraid of (or dislikes) children.

Paedophilephobe?

Turk182 wrote:

> The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> complaining and his farting.
> 
> Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
> however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
> 
<pedant>
padophobe = 9 letters
sun reader = 9 letters (10 characters with space)

how is Sun reader a shortened version
</pedant>

That is all.

"Graham Murray"  wrote in message 
news:87abek9ydy.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk...
> Turk182  writes:
>
>> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
>> yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
>> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
>> torture children anymore.
>
> No, a paedophobe is someone whom is afraid of (or dislikes) children.

Just as a homophobe is someone who is afraid of (or dislikes) the same.  You 
are fed up with all the repeats of comedy shows on the telly? Then you're a 
homophobe.

Those who attempt to introduce such neologisms into the language invariably 
invent these words to describe anybody but themselves, and on the basis that 
if you dislike something, you must have a "phobia" about it, a dislike that 
is irrational.

On Sep 6, 9:50 pm, Turk182  wrote:
> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> torture children anymore.
>
> The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> complaining and his farting.
>
> Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
> however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
>
> The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
> reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
> farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
> around and then releases.  Thank you.
>
> Turk182

Yes, and the Sun makes millions out of this. You think the Sun cares
about the issues?

Sex sells. Look at Sun's Page 3 and see the content the Sun cares
about most.

If I had power, Page 3 would be permanently replaced with something
containing words.

You can be sure the Sun is spending millions trying to find Glitter.

mentalguy2008 wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
> news:98962d57-0a58-4b11-a4a9-9d3640ba2d38@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > On 6 Sep, 23:45, "mentalguy2008"  wrote:
> >> "Michael C"  wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:6ige6nFqfn4sU1@mid.individual.net...
> >>
> >> > "R D S"  wrote in message
> >> >news:6igcukFqel77U1@mid.individual.net...
> >> >> "mentalguy2008"  wrote in message
> >> >>news:7wCwk.272847$LU4.31134@newsfe24.ams2...
> >>
> >> >>> Yes, you're pro-paedo, we get the message.
> >> >> As are many in this group.
> >>
> >> > Define "pro-paedo".
> >>
> >> Defensive of sex-offenders yet sneering at parents who are legitimately
> >> concerned for the safety of their kids.
> >
> > Children face death, sexual and physical abuse, humiliation,
> > starvation and neglect from parents more than any other group.  The
> > paedo threat, althoug real is not the big story - the big story is
> > that it is not strangers - but parents who are destroying, tortureing
> > and yes ..kidnapping their own children!
> >
> > So who peddles the myth.  It's a group activity, a way of people
> > finding a common iconic figure of hatred, that steers accusations of
> > poor parenting away from themselves and onto a wretched individual who
> > will gain no sympathy from anyone.  However, be aware that to pull
> > this one off, the 'system' has to make you believe the paedo is evil -
> > when in fact he's ill.  Also beware the whole campaign has a strong
> > anti-male theme.  Women have managed through slick PR, a handful of
> > charities and an eager BBC to convince the world that they are pure
> > and decent and that man is a demon, and that he's unpredictable and
> > dangerous.  In fact more women assault children than men and as we all
> > know, women can carry out murderous acts of hatred and revenge as well
> > as some remarkable mental and physical abuse when they think they can
> > get away with it.  As an expose on a women's refuge revealed, the
> > amount of violence metered out on children by their 'victim' mums was
> > horrendous.
> >
> > So get it straight - what we want is prevention, ie spotting offenders
> > of both sexes before they damage children, and a realistic honest
> > exchange of information to educate the world into not scapegoating sex
> > offenders as this is counterproductive - it runs the risk of driving
> > offenders underground and away from help.  Finally, we should widen
> > parents knowledge of the harmful effects of the mistreatment of
> > children - not least of all because children from unhappy backgrounds,
> > albiet reared in so called 'ordinary families' become more vulnerable
> > to being targeted by other abusers.
> >
> > Greater respect and care of the young mind = less abusers and less
> > abused children.
> >
> > Turk182
> >
>
> I agree with some of your points, there is indeed widespread abuse of
> children, abuse of all types. But nobody has sympathy for a parent who
> batters their child, or neglects their child. And I'm pretty sure there'd be
> no sympathy for anyone who took photos of a child being beaten or starved,
> or anyone who downloaded those photos for their own sexual gratification.
>
> I think it's only natural for a parent to have negative feelings for
> child-sex-offenders, same as a woman would with a rapist living next door.
> No matter how many times we're told that paedophiles "are ill", "need help
> and support" etc., there are just too many cases (and at least one in this
> group) who get caught, convicted, and emerge unremorseful, unrepentant and
> completely un-rehabilitated, even going on TV to share their view that sex
> with children is acceptable. That's what worries parents, that someone can
> be put "through the system" and come out the other side no different. And it
> seems to be a common theme that whatever they've done, it's not their fault.
> Urges, bad childhood, I was in a strange place, I was researching, I was
> stressed.
>
> Parents have a duty and a passion for protecting their children, I know I
> do. You seem keen to make the point that parents are paranoid and bad, but
> paedophiles are merely ill, harmless and misunderstood. Am I paranoid for
> locking my car? Deadlocking my front door while I'm out? Making sure my PIN
> number isn't seen? Or am I being realistic, with a natural and instinctive
> aversion to car thieves, burglars and fraudsters? My car, possessions and
> money aren't even important compared to my kids, so it naturally follows
> that I want to take every precaution to protect them from any kind of abuse.
> And if systems like CRB checking or public databases help to keep sex
> offenders away from anyone's kids, then that's a good thing. I don't care if
> a child-sex-offender loses his job or his reputation, plenty of people lose
> their jobs and reputations for other reasons and don't whine about it or
> paint themselves as some sort of misunderstood victim of circumstance. They
> knew the risks. Similarly, I don't suppose sex offenders, burglars, pub
> fighters or thieves spend too much time worrying about their victims.

"I think it's only natural for a parent to have negative feelings
for ..."

It is not only natural, it is inevitable ,with the climate today (in
fact, it was designed). Beliefs are fine, prejudicial, ill-informed
actions are are not.

"No matter how many times we're told that paedophiles "are ill","

Whoever told you that is incorrect.

"who get caught, convicted, and emerge unremorseful, unrepentant and
completely un-rehabilitated, even going on TV to share their view that
sex with children is acceptable. "

Would that be me? - if so, I have never said that sex with children is
acceptable, not to many, presently.

"That's what worries parents, that someone can  be put "through the
system" and come out the other side no different."

The System?
What is that then?
How does that work?

The majority who come out of The System, come out more bitter than
they went in. The System is the problem.

The System poisons The Parents ...

... and here we are.

Remainder of you ill-informed rant not dealt with, for now, but noted.

WM

mentalguy2008 wrote:
> "Turk182"  wrote in message
> news:0c74fda8-f98f-4ec4-b9ac-b6d84746797f@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On 7 Sep, 00:08, "Ian"  wrote:
> > "Turk182"  wrote in message
> >
> > news:a24056c2-89e2-4c1c-b71b-c28e4b705c6d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > To explain. A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> >
>
> >There's nothing wrong with the Sun, provided you realise is the
> >closest thing to an 'abuser' we have in newspaper form.  It degrades
> >women, it condones violence against children, it promotes gambling,
>
> How does it condone violence against children?

It rarely does, it simply creates a mindset in many and a social
climate where such actions are more likely.

WM

The Todal wrote:
> "Graham Murray"  wrote in message
> news:87abek9ydy.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk...
> > Turk182  writes:
> >
> >> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> >> yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> >> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> >> torture children anymore.
> >
> > No, a paedophobe is someone whom is afraid of (or dislikes) children.
>
> Just as a homophobe is someone who is afraid of (or dislikes) the same.  You
> are fed up with all the repeats of comedy shows on the telly? Then you're a
> homophobe.
>
> Those who attempt to introduce such neologisms into the language invariably
> invent these words to describe anybody but themselves, and on the basis that
> if you dislike something, you must have a "phobia" about it, a dislike that
> is irrational.

GM us technically correct, but FFS, we all know what the OP meant.

WM

Logician wrote:
> On Sep 6, 9:50 pm, Turk182  wrote:
> > To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about paedophiles
> > yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays. the liberal
> > elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
> > torture children anymore.
> >
> > The padophobe usually has a short willie, a beer gut, a body odour, he
> > hates himself, he is jealous and known for his whinging, whining,
> > complaining and his farting.
> >
> > Please use this term more often when using this newsgroup.  There is
> > however a shortened version of this word and it is:   "Sun reader".
> >
> > The pasedophobe could be also could be a Daily Express or Daily Mail
> > reader, but in such instances he will normally not disclose his
> > farting but instead walks up quiet side streets, checks no one is
> > around and then releases.  Thank you.
> >
> > Turk182
>
> Yes, and the Sun makes millions out of this. You think the Sun cares
> about the issues?
>
> Sex sells. Look at Sun's Page 3 and see the content the Sun cares
> about most.
>
> If I had power, Page 3 would be permanently replaced with something
> containing words.
>
> You can be sure the Sun is spending millions trying to find Glitter.

Critically Analyse How Media Definitions of Crime, Can Affect and
Influence Both Official and Public Perceptions of the Problem

http://www.critest.com/writings.htm#Media

WM

Webmanager_CritEst wrote:
> The Todal wrote:
>> "Graham Murray"  wrote in message
>> news:87abek9ydy.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk...
>>> Turk182  writes:
>>>
>>>> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about
>>>> paedophiles yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays.
>>>> the liberal
>>>> elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that teachers can't
>>>> torture children anymore.
>>>
>>> No, a paedophobe is someone whom is afraid of (or dislikes)
>>> children.
>>
>> Just as a homophobe is someone who is afraid of (or dislikes) the
>> same.  You are fed up with all the repeats of comedy shows on the
>> telly? Then you're a homophobe.
>>
>> Those who attempt to introduce such neologisms into the language
>> invariably invent these words to describe anybody but themselves,
>> and on the basis that if you dislike something, you must have a
>> "phobia" about it, a dislike that is irrational.
>
> GM us technically correct, but FFS, we all know what the OP meant.

Yes, he meant to imply that those who object to paedophilia are irrational 
idiots, contrasting with himself and his perceptive insights into the human 
condition.  Most paedophilic activity is for fucks sake.

The Todal wrote:

> Webmanager_CritEst wrote:
>> The Todal wrote:
>>> "Graham Murray" wrote...
>>>> Turk182 writes:

>>>>> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about
>>>>> paedophiles yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays.
>>>>> the liberal elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that 
>>>>> teachers can't torture children anymore.

>>>> No, a paedophobe is someone whom is afraid of (or dislikes)
>>>> children.

>>> Just as a homophobe is someone who is afraid of (or dislikes) the
>>> same.  You are fed up with all the repeats of comedy shows on the
>>> telly? Then you're a homophobe.

>>> Those who attempt to introduce such neologisms into the language
>>> invariably invent these words to describe anybody but themselves,
>>> and on the basis that if you dislike something, you must have a
>>> "phobia" about it, a dislike that is irrational.

>> GM us technically correct, but FFS, we all know what the OP meant.
 
> Yes, he meant to imply that those who object to paedophilia are irrational 
> idiots, contrasting with himself and his perceptive insights into the human 
> condition.  Most paedophilic activity is for fucks sake. 

Eh?  Where do you pick up these insights into "paedophilic activity"?

On Sep 8, 8:06 pm, Jon Thomas  wrote:
> The Todal wrote:
> > Webmanager_CritEst wrote:
> >> The Todal wrote:
> >>> "Graham Murray" wrote...
> >>>> Turk182 writes:
> >>>>> To explain.  A paedophobe is one who rants endlessly about
> >>>>> paedophiles yes, but also foreigners taking our jobs, yobs, gays.
> >>>>> the liberal elite, the goody goody nanny state and the fact that
> >>>>> teachers can't torture children anymore.
> >>>> No, a paedophobe is someone whom is afraid of (or dislikes)
> >>>> children.
> >>> Just as a homophobe is someone who is afraid of (or dislikes) the
> >>> same.  You are fed up with all the repeats of comedy shows on the
> >>> telly? Then you're a homophobe.
> >>> Those who attempt to introduce such neologisms into the language
> >>> invariably invent these words to describe anybody but themselves,
> >>> and on the basis that if you dislike something, you must have a
> >>> "phobia" about it, a dislike that is irrational.
> >> GM us technically correct, but FFS, we all know what the OP meant.
> > Yes, he meant to imply that those who object to paedophilia are irrational
> > idiots, contrasting with himself and his perceptive insights into the human
> > condition.  Most paedophilic activity is for fucks sake.
>
> Eh?  Where do you pick up these insights into "paedophilic activity"?

Maybe he works at the Sun!

Probably at the Sun there is one all day sex orgy everyday like
animals running around in pens. Clothing is optional at the Sun.