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date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:44:26 +0100,    group: uk.business.agriculture        back       
E. Coli - Crown Office steps in and orders Fatal Accident Inquiry   
Pat's Note; I won't be taking the PSIS out of this initiative.


http://www.thefirmmagazine.com/news/1046/Crown_Office_steps_in_and_orders_Fatal_Accident_Inquiry.html


NEWS

03 Sep 2008

Crown Office steps in and orders Fatal Accident Inquiry

The Crown Office has announced that a Fatal Accident Inquiry is to be
held into the death of 66 year old Margaret Rowan, who died following
an outbreak of E-coli 0157 in the Renfrewshire area. 

It was reported last year that environmental health officers had drawn
attention to more than health related 20 issues at the two Morrisons
supermarket branches in Paisley during the past three years, which
were highlighted as a possible source for the outbreak in which
Margaret Rowan, 66 died and eight others were taken ill.

Sliced cold meats from the delicatessen counters were believed to have
been the source of the infection, and were withdrawn. 

The decision to hold an FAI follows "extensive investigations" by the
Outbreak Control Team and a joint investigation by the police and the
Environmental Health Authorities in Renfrewshire under the direction
of the Procurator Fiscal. 

The Procurator Fiscal at Paisley has now made an application to the
Sheriff at Paisley for authority to conduct a Fatal Accident Inquiry,
and also contacted those people who were directly affected by the
outbreak. 

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:44:26 +0100   author:   Pat Gardiner

Re: E. Coli - Crown Office steps in and orders Fatal Accident Inquiry   
On Sep 3, 4:44 am, Pat Gardiner 
wrote:
> Pat's Note; I won't be taking the PSIS out of this initiative.
>
> http://www.thefirmmagazine.com/news/1046/Crown_Office_steps_in_and_or...
>
> NEWS
>
> 03 Sep 2008
>
> Crown Office steps in and orders Fatal Accident Inquiry
>
> The Crown Office has announced that a Fatal Accident Inquiry is to be
> held into the death of 66 year old Margaret Rowan, who died following
> an outbreak of E-coli 0157 in the Renfrewshire area.
>
> It was reported last year that environmental health officers had drawn
> attention to more than health related 20 issues at the two Morrisons
> supermarket branches in Paisley during the past three years, which
> were highlighted as a possible source for the outbreak in which
> Margaret Rowan, 66 died and eight others were taken ill.
>
> Sliced cold meats from the delicatessen counters were believed to have
> been the source of the infection, and were withdrawn.
>
> The decision to hold an FAI follows "extensive investigations" by the
> Outbreak Control Team and a joint investigation by the police and the
> Environmental Health Authorities in Renfrewshire under the direction
> of the Procurator Fiscal.
>
> The Procurator Fiscal at Paisley has now made an application to the
> Sheriff at Paisley for authority to conduct a Fatal Accident Inquiry,
> and also contacted those people who were directly affected by the
> outbreak.
>
> --
> Regards
> Pat Gardiner
> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

Dear Pat:   You really do have a problem on issues like this, and so
do we.   Here, the police were called in to investigate possible food
contamination.  I'll bet you a liter of Scotch whiskey that there
isn't a one of your police investigators that has any formal training
for such a situation.   Furthermore, I'll guarantee you, there is not
one, here at my hometown that has any knowledge of viral, bacterial
food contaminating "bugs."   Speaking of bugs, most of them can't tell
one from another.

Till you get really well-trained people in the field of investigative
microbiology involved, these investigations are nothng more than icing
covering the problems in the cake.   It does help to put some common
sense into these situations, too.    Like putting hospital surgery-
style handwash facilities in to any place where foods are handled by
dirty employees.   Employees at these places walk in off the street,
fail to clean  and sanitize themselves, and just start making foods
for the deli's.   I see it happening like that here, for sure.   Same
goes for restaurants.

Burkie
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 03:19:15 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: E. Coli - Crown Office steps in and orders Fatal Accident Inquiry   
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 03:19:15 -0700 (PDT), Burkie
 wrote:

>On Sep 3, 4:44 am, Pat Gardiner 
>wrote:
>> Pat's Note; I won't be taking the PSIS out of this initiative.
>>
>> http://www.thefirmmagazine.com/news/1046/Crown_Office_steps_in_and_or...
>>
<snip>

>Dear Pat:   You really do have a problem on issues like this, and so
>do we.   Here, the police were called in to investigate possible food
>contamination.  I'll bet you a liter of Scotch whiskey that there
>isn't a one of your police investigators that has any formal training
>for such a situation.   Furthermore, I'll guarantee you, there is not
>one, here at my hometown that has any knowledge of viral, bacterial
>food contaminating "bugs."   Speaking of bugs, most of them can't tell
>one from another.

Here in the UK the police do not have responsibility for issues
like this. The first-line responsibility lies with Environmental
Health Officers (EHO) employed by local government. This
responsibility is placed on local government by central
government.
About a career as an EHO: 
http://careersadvice.direct.gov.uk/helpwithyourcareer/jobprofiles/profiles/profile590/
or http://tinyurl.com/56cqzr

There are also National agencies and laboratories involved. 

>Till you get really well-trained people in the field of investigative
>microbiology involved, these investigations are nothng more than icing
>covering the problems in the cake.   It does help to put some common
>sense into these situations, too.    Like putting hospital surgery-
>style handwash facilities in to any place where foods are handled by
>dirty employees.   Employees at these places walk in off the street,
>fail to clean  and sanitize themselves, and just start making foods
>for the deli's.   I see it happening like that here, for sure.   Same
>goes for restaurants.
>
Good points.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.business.agriculture)
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:56:30 +0100   author:   Peter Duncanson

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