On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:32:51 +0100, Old Codger
 wrote:

>David G. Bell wrote:
>> On Saturday, in article
>>      <489defb0$0$26076$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
>>      oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net "Old Codger" wrote:
>> 
>>> Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>>> Absolutely. Can you imagine how it looks to a disinterested observer,
>>>> let alone one who is investigating the origins of superbugs in the
>>>> hospitals and the British and Scottish response to mutated PMWS?
>>> Indeed, the group is swamped by rubbish, posted by someone who "claims" 
>>> to be an ex docker, to such an extent that it is difficult to find 
>>> anything useful to read.
>> 
>> This is what killfiles are for.
>
>Indeed!  However, if applied comprehensively there is, these days, very 
>little left.  :-)
>
>> Pat, you've been obsessing about this for years, and you'd have more 
>> credibility if you blamed the Masons.
>
>How true.
>
>> At the very least, take a break. Go and do something different. Stays in 
>> Hospital don't count. You're working from habit, not through any 
>> application of intellect.
>
>You are hopeful David.  I think his whole life revolves around posting 
>here, pretending he has influence.
>
>If he was really concerned about the matters on which he posts he would 
>take more direct action.  If he is as incapacitated as he claims this 
>would probably be limited to writing e-mails and letters to appropriate 
>persons.  He prefers to troll here though which is telling.

I prefer to take my advice from successes not failures.

Oz is giving Moody really good advice, whilst I would not count him a
success and don't much care for his objectives, Oz did build up a
powerful group that influenced national policy, even if it was in the
wrong direction.

Killfile me, killfile Burkie, killfile everyone. It is the only
possible option.

The investigators are closing in and you are throwing yourself onto
the railroad track.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

Pat Gardiner wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:32:51 +0100, Old Codger
>  wrote:
> 
>> David G. Bell wrote:
>>> On Saturday, in article
>>>      <489defb0$0$26076$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
>>>      oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net "Old Codger" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>>>> Absolutely. Can you imagine how it looks to a disinterested observer,
>>>>> let alone one who is investigating the origins of superbugs in the
>>>>> hospitals and the British and Scottish response to mutated PMWS?
>>>> Indeed, the group is swamped by rubbish, posted by someone who "claims" 
>>>> to be an ex docker, to such an extent that it is difficult to find 
>>>> anything useful to read.
>>> This is what killfiles are for.
>> Indeed!  However, if applied comprehensively there is, these days, very 
>> little left.  :-)
>>
>>> Pat, you've been obsessing about this for years, and you'd have more 
>>> credibility if you blamed the Masons.
>> How true.
>>
>>> At the very least, take a break. Go and do something different. Stays in 
>>> Hospital don't count. You're working from habit, not through any 
>>> application of intellect.
>> You are hopeful David.  I think his whole life revolves around posting 
>> here, pretending he has influence.
>>
>> If he was really concerned about the matters on which he posts he would 
>> take more direct action.  If he is as incapacitated as he claims this 
>> would probably be limited to writing e-mails and letters to appropriate 
>> persons.  He prefers to troll here though which is telling.
> 
> I prefer to take my advice from successes not failures.

I was stating fact, not providing advice.  Your opinions on my 
achievements are just that, your opinions, and as such irrelevant.

> Oz is giving Moody really good advice, whilst I would not count him a
> success and don't much care for his objectives,

Showing your ignorance again Pat?

> Oz did build up apowerful group that influenced national policy, even if it was in the
> wrong direction.

Showing your ignorance yet again Pat?

> Killfile me, killfile Burkie, killfile everyone. It is the only
> possible option.

Not everyone, just you, Burkie and Pete.  However, if everybody did 
that, and as a consequence *all* your posts were ignored, you would 
reply to yourself even more in an attempt to be noticed.

> The investigators are closing in and you are throwing yourself onto
> the railroad track.

Your fantasies are showing Pat.

-- 
Old Codger
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people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:26:47 +0100, Old Codger
 wrote:

>Pat Gardiner wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:32:51 +0100, Old Codger
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> David G. Bell wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, in article
>>>>      <489defb0$0$26076$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
>>>>      oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net "Old Codger" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>>>>> Absolutely. Can you imagine how it looks to a disinterested observer,
>>>>>> let alone one who is investigating the origins of superbugs in the
>>>>>> hospitals and the British and Scottish response to mutated PMWS?
>>>>> Indeed, the group is swamped by rubbish, posted by someone who "claims" 
>>>>> to be an ex docker, to such an extent that it is difficult to find 
>>>>> anything useful to read.
>>>> This is what killfiles are for.
>>> Indeed!  However, if applied comprehensively there is, these days, very 
>>> little left.  :-)
>>>
>>>> Pat, you've been obsessing about this for years, and you'd have more 
>>>> credibility if you blamed the Masons.
>>> How true.
>>>
>>>> At the very least, take a break. Go and do something different. Stays in 
>>>> Hospital don't count. You're working from habit, not through any 
>>>> application of intellect.
>>> You are hopeful David.  I think his whole life revolves around posting 
>>> here, pretending he has influence.
>>>
>>> If he was really concerned about the matters on which he posts he would 
>>> take more direct action.  If he is as incapacitated as he claims this 
>>> would probably be limited to writing e-mails and letters to appropriate 
>>> persons.  He prefers to troll here though which is telling.
>> 
>> I prefer to take my advice from successes not failures.
>
>I was stating fact, not providing advice.  Your opinions on my 
>achievements are just that, your opinions, and as such irrelevant.
>
>> Oz is giving Moody really good advice, whilst I would not count him a
>> success and don't much care for his objectives,
>
>Showing your ignorance again Pat?
>
>> Oz did build up apowerful group that influenced national policy, even if it was in the
>> wrong direction.
>
>Showing your ignorance yet again Pat?
>
>> Killfile me, killfile Burkie, killfile everyone. It is the only
>> possible option.
>
>Not everyone, just you, Burkie and Pete.  However, if everybody did 
>that, and as a consequence *all* your posts were ignored, you would 
>reply to yourself even more in an attempt to be noticed.
>
>> The investigators are closing in and you are throwing yourself onto
>> the railroad track.
>
>Your fantasies are showing Pat.


All the people that you once fawned over seem to think otherwise and
have either departed or have their heads down.

You really should follow Jim's example and Oz's advice.  You
presumably think they have been kind to you.

You should not try to drag them back in to protect your back.

You are an adult. You knew exactly what you were doing when you
deliberately diseminated derogatory material under insulting headers.

You knew the possible consequences. I warned you that you were not
only wrong in fact as well as tone, but also being watched from the
US.

It looks as if I was spot on about the origins of ST398 MRSA and
possibly C.Diff too.

Your constant abusive stalking has probably delayed remdial actions
being taken.

Don't make it even worse for yourself and the others involved.

Now I'm off to bed. I suggest you do the same and think it all over
carefuly.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

Pat Gardiner wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:26:47 +0100, Old Codger
>  wrote:
> 
>> Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:32:51 +0100, Old Codger
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> David G. Bell wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, in article
>>>>>      <489defb0$0$26076$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
>>>>>      oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net "Old Codger" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pat Gardiner wrote:
>>>>>>> Absolutely. Can you imagine how it looks to a disinterested observer,
>>>>>>> let alone one who is investigating the origins of superbugs in the
>>>>>>> hospitals and the British and Scottish response to mutated PMWS?
>>>>>> Indeed, the group is swamped by rubbish, posted by someone who "claims" 
>>>>>> to be an ex docker, to such an extent that it is difficult to find 
>>>>>> anything useful to read.
>>>>> This is what killfiles are for.
>>>> Indeed!  However, if applied comprehensively there is, these days, very 
>>>> little left.  :-)
>>>>
>>>>> Pat, you've been obsessing about this for years, and you'd have more 
>>>>> credibility if you blamed the Masons.
>>>> How true.
>>>>
>>>>> At the very least, take a break. Go and do something different. Stays in 
>>>>> Hospital don't count. You're working from habit, not through any 
>>>>> application of intellect.
>>>> You are hopeful David.  I think his whole life revolves around posting 
>>>> here, pretending he has influence.
>>>>
>>>> If he was really concerned about the matters on which he posts he would 
>>>> take more direct action.  If he is as incapacitated as he claims this 
>>>> would probably be limited to writing e-mails and letters to appropriate 
>>>> persons.  He prefers to troll here though which is telling.
>>> I prefer to take my advice from successes not failures.
>> I was stating fact, not providing advice.  Your opinions on my 
>> achievements are just that, your opinions, and as such irrelevant.
>>
>>> Oz is giving Moody really good advice, whilst I would not count him a
>>> success and don't much care for his objectives,
>> Showing your ignorance again Pat?
>>
>>> Oz did build up apowerful group that influenced national policy, even if it was in the
>>> wrong direction.
>> Showing your ignorance yet again Pat?
>>
>>> Killfile me, killfile Burkie, killfile everyone. It is the only
>>> possible option.
>> Not everyone, just you, Burkie and Pete.  However, if everybody did 
>> that, and as a consequence *all* your posts were ignored, you would 
>> reply to yourself even more in an attempt to be noticed.
>>
>>> The investigators are closing in and you are throwing yourself onto
>>> the railroad track.
>> Your fantasies are showing Pat.
> 
> 
> All the people that you once fawned over seem to think otherwise and
> have either departed or have their heads down.

Pure b*ll*cks yet again Pat?

> You really should follow Jim's example and Oz's advice.

What is that Pat?

> You presumably think they have been kind to you.

Well they haven't been unkind.

> You should not try to drag them back in to protect your back.

Why should I wish to do that?  From what do I need protection?

> You are an adult. You knew exactly what you were doing when you
> deliberately diseminated derogatory material under insulting headers.
> 
> You knew the possible consequences. I warned you that you were not
> only wrong in fact as well as tone, but also being watched from the
> US.

Showing your ignorance on legal matters again Pat?  Your fantasies are 
also showing.

> It looks as if I was spot on about the origins of ST398 MRSA and
> possibly C.Diff too.

You may think so but I am still waiting for *some* evidence.

> Your constant abusive stalking has probably delayed remdial actions
> being taken.
> 
> Don't make it even worse for yourself and the others involved.

Posting pure b*ll*cks *again* Pat?

> Now I'm off to bed. I suggest you do the same and think it all over
> carefuly.

Is there really something I need to think about?


-- 
Old Codger
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What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make 
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]