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date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:01:49 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.business.agriculture        back       
Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
putting this and the links up, 'cause it's your money that's been
wasted and not mine.   Not only that, it's your health and your
families that are being affected negatively by your own people.    If
you want to complain, do so in a right and proper way to get positive
changes made for the benefit of yourselves.   Please note:   the
reference made to the MRSA problems in your own hospitals.

I realize that you've also had to contend with IT problems with your
SFP scheme, too.

Burkie in Kansas
---------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ministers-to-strip-councils-of-power-to-run-care-homes-889763.html

Ministers to strip councils of power to run care homes

By Brian Brady, Whitehall Editor
Sunday, 10 August 2008

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Independent.co.uk Web


Care for elderly, infirm and disabled people could be stripped from
local authority control under radical new government plans in an
effort to end the so-called "postcode lottery" that sees wildly
different standards of care across the country.

Social services chiefs have been warned they will lose their
responsibility for care unless they step up improvements in their
performance over the next three years.

More than 370 nursing and care homes have been given "no star" ratings
after the independent Commission for Social Care Inspection (CSCI)
assessed their services as "poor". A further 31 have been sent legal
notices stating the CSCI plans to cancel their registration and move
their residents elsewhere.

Last week it obtained a court order to cancel the registration of a
residential nursing home in Brackley, Northamptonshire, after a random
check found the safety and welfare of its elderly residents were "at
serious risk". Several residents of the home were taken to hospital
for treatment. Two subsequently died after inspectors shut the home.

The reputation of the sector has also been damaged by repeated
revelations of abuse and neglect of residents in some of the 10,000-
plus private homes across the country. Some 150 local authorities
across England spent £14.2bn on social care for all adults last year
including elderly people, residents with dementia and young people
with learning difficulties. Their role is already under threat,
however, from reforms designed to give individuals "personalised"
control over their own care, including control of a personal budget
under the Government's Putting People First programme.

The health minister Ivan Lewis has warned that the Government is
prepared to go further, and remove local councils from the system if
their performance does not improve. He said: "If at the end of three
years, local government has not delivered on those building blocks, I
think there will be some really big questions to be asked about its
capacity to commission these services in the future."

Department of Health insiders said the warning could mean the worst-
performing councils being stripped of their powers – or, in extreme
circumstances, the power over commissioning care being handed to a new
body altogether. In an interview with Community Care magazine, Mr
Lewis said the postcode lottery was one of the "big, big concerns".

Age Concern gave a cautious welcome to the Government's proposals. A
spokesman said: "We have been concerned about councils being in charge
of assessing people's needs and then deciding how much should be spent
on them. There have been concerns about the quality of care offered to
older people, in particular. At least threatening local authorities
with sanctions if they do not improve can be of benefit."

But the Local Government Association (LGA), a cross-party organisation
representing councils in England, insisted that local authorities
still had a vital contribution to make. "Councils are best placed to
make decisions on providing care and support to local people, thanks
to their knowledge of what's available in each area and how best it
can be managed," a spokeswoman said.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/aug/10/nhs.computersystem

    Chaos as £13bn NHS computer system falters

        * Jamie Doward, home affairs editor
        * The Observer,
        * Sunday August 10 2008
        * Article history

    A £13bn overhaul of the NHS records system has suffered so many
problems that hospitals have struggled to keep track of people
requiring operations, patients with suspected MRSA and potential
cancer sufferers needing urgent consultations.

    Glitches in the roll-out of the Connecting for Health computer
system have also resulted in delays at accident and emergency
departments, soaring complaints and failures to identify child-abuse
victims.

    The revelations are just the latest setback for what the
government has pledged will be a key factor in improving NHS services.
According to the board minutes of the first London NHS trusts to
install the new system, obtained by The Observer and Computer Weekly,
it has had a serious effect on patient care, a problem that raises
questions about its introduction to hundreds of other hospitals and
trusts.

    A report to the Enfield Primary Care Trust in March reveals that
difficulties with the system last year meant it did not have vital
data identifying patients awaiting operations. As a result 63 patients
of the Barnet and Chase Farm Hospitals NHS trust had their operations
delayed.

    In April, the trust found that the system had failed to flag up
possible child-abuse victims entering hospital to key staff, 'leaving
the responsibility to the receptionist'.

    The same trust noted the following month that 272 elective
operations were cancelled at the last minute for 'non-clinical
reasons' and that 20 patients were not readmitted for treatment within
28 days at the end of last year because the 'surveillance system for
tracking' them 'was not operational in the new ... system'.

    The board's minutes show 14,000 people contacted the trust last
year with concerns about their treatment, compared with 5,500 in 2006.

    A report to the board of another NHS trust, Barts and the London,
says that for six months to May this year the trust failed to meet
targets for treating emergency patients within four hours, chiefly
because staff were unfamiliar with the new computer system. The same
report reveals that in May there were 'breaches of the two-week urgent
cancer access guarantee' for the same reasons. As a result 11 patients
who were suspected of having cancer did not receive consultations on
time.

    According to minutes presented to the Buckinghamshire Hospitals
NHS Trust, problems with the new system last year meant potentially
infectious patients with MRSA were not isolated for up to 17 days. The
problem had to be rectified manually by staff who updated the patient
records themselves. 'This took approximately six weeks to do, during
which time there was a possibility that some MRSA-positive patients
may have slipped through undetected if medical notes had not been
available,' according to the report.

    The revelations have prompted claims that the government is losing
control of the flagship project. 'IT projects well implemented can be
a huge benefit,' said Stephen O'Brien, the Conservatives' health
spokesman. 'Clearly from the problems being encountered by many
trusts, the benefits are not being achieved and all the risks are
falling on patients.'

    Many trusts have delayed implementing the new system as a result
of the problems and the chief executive of Connecting for Health,
Richard Granger, resigned last year. Those trusts that have
implemented the system complain it diverts staff from key duties. A
report last month to the board of the Royal Free Hampstead NHS Trust
said 12,000 patient records had to be manually amended over a three-
week period.

    'The outpatient appointment centre has experienced a significant
increase in the time taken to process individual patient appointment
bookings. This has had a consequent and negative effect on call-answer
performance,' the report states. The trusts said the problems had been
or were being fixed. 'We are aware that during initials stages of
implementation there were some difficulties,' said a spokesman for NHS
London.

    A spokeswoman for Connecting for Health said patients would be
better off under the new system. 'Patients can expect faster diagnosis
and treatment because vital information will be available wherever and
whenever care is required.'
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:01:49 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
In article ,
Burkie <URL:mailto:Burkie50@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for

Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.

In other words:  We already know all this.

The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
the easy political stories are in short supply.

You are wasting bandwidth.

Cheerio,

-- 

>>   derek@farm-direct.co.uk
>>   http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:48:23 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:48:23 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:

>In article ,
>Burkie <URL:mailto:Burkie50@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
>> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>
>Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
>accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
>to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
>part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>
>In other words:  We already know all this.
>
>The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
>newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
>the easy political stories are in short supply.
>
>You are wasting bandwidth.
>
>Cheerio,

I don't think you are very wise to attempt to bully Burkie into not
posting.

You can't relive past successes. You guys are all washed up. Farming's
laughing stock.

Bullying is banned here.

Time to find your way to a moderated group where you can all massage
one another's prejudices to your hearts content.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:05:02 +0100   author:   Pat Gardiner

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
Derek Moody wrote:
> In article ,
> Burkie <URL:mailto:Burkie50@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
>> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
> 
> Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
> accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
> to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
> part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
> 
> In other words:  We already know all this.
> 
> The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
> newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
> the easy political stories are in short supply.
> 
> You are wasting bandwidth.

If he really must post this, alt.conspiracy.nhs would be more 
appropriate.  :-)


-- 
Old Codger
e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make 
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:40:38 +0100   author:   Old Codger

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Aug 10, 4:40 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
> Derek Moody wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Burkie <URL:mailto:Burki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
> >> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>
> > Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
> > accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
> > to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
> > part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>
> > In other words:  We already know all this.
>
> > The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
> > newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
> > the easy political stories are in short supply.
>
> > You are wasting bandwidth.
>
> If he really must post this, alt.conspiracy.nhs would be more
> appropriate.  :-)
>
> --
> Old Codger
> e-mail use reply to field
>
> What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
> people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

Don't need to do that, sir Old Codger.   This will suffice just fine
with me.    We have plenty of people here in North America to talk to
that listen and don't badger or begrudge.   Some of them are far more
receptive to real news than yourself.

Burkie


P.S.   What is it about FACTS and Reality that you can't accept?
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:28:22 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Aug 10, 2:48 pm, Derek Moody  wrote:
> In article ,
>
> Burkie <URL:mailto:Burki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
> > some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>
> Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
> accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
> to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
> part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>
> In other words:  We already know all this.
>
> The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
> newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
> the easy political stories are in short supply.
>
> You are wasting bandwidth.
>
> Cheerio,
>
> --
>
> >>   de...@farm-direct.co.uk
> >>  http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/

Good,   I'll waste a hell of a lot of bandwidth then.  When you  or a
member of your family, goes to the hospital and incurs the risks of
MRSA or C.Diff, and succumbs to ineffectual treatment,   I'll remember
what you've just said.

Burkie
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:32:42 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Aug 10, 5:28 pm, Burkie  wrote:
> On Aug 10, 4:40 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Derek Moody wrote:
> > > In article ,
> > > Burkie <URL:mailto:Burki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
> > >> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>
> > > Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
> > > accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
> > > to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
> > > part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>
> > > In other words:  We already know all this.
>
> > > The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
> > > newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
> > > the easy political stories are in short supply.
>
> > > You are wasting bandwidth.
>
> > If he really must post this, alt.conspiracy.nhs would be more
> > appropriate.  :-)
>
> > --
> > Old Codger
> > e-mail use reply to field
>
> > What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
> > people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
>
> Don't need to do that, sir Old Codger.   This will suffice just fine
> with me.    We have plenty of people here in North America to talk to
> that listen and don't badger or begrudge.   Some of them are far more
> receptive to real news than yourself.
>
> Burkie
>
> P.S.   What is it about FACTS and Reality that you can't accept?

I'd also add, sir Old Cod.......if you have a problem with me posting
this up, you might as well bitch to the Guardian's editor and the
person that wrote the story.

Burkie
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:30:47 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Aug 10, 4:40 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
> Derek Moody wrote:
> > In article ,
> > Burkie <URL:mailto:Burki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
> >> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>
> > Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
> > accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
> > to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
> > part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>
> > In other words:  We already know all this.
>
> > The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
> > newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
> > the easy political stories are in short supply.
>
> > You are wasting bandwidth.
>
> If he really must post this,alt.conspiracy.nhswould be more
> appropriate.  :-)
>
> --
> Old Codger
> e-mail use reply to field
>
> What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
> people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

Well, well, well.    I see the Old Codger thought it would be nice to
start a new thread on another usenet group, as was suggested.
Amazing how you folks operate, but it's all public information so I
can't see anything wrong that.
Last page on Alt.conspiracy.nhs

Good for you, Mr. Codger.!

The more that get to see the extent of the problems we're all having,
the faster they can be resolved.

Burkie
date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:22:28 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
wrote:

>On Aug 10, 4:40 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> Derek Moody wrote:
>> > In article ,
>> > Burkie <URL:mailto:Burki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
>> >> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>>
>> > Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
>> > accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
>> > to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
>> > part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>>
>> > In other words:  We already know all this.
>>
>> > The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
>> > newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
>> > the easy political stories are in short supply.
>>
>> > You are wasting bandwidth.
>>
>> If he really must post this,alt.conspiracy.nhswould be more
>> appropriate.  :-)
>>
>> --
>> Old Codger
>> e-mail use reply to field
>>
>> What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
>> people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
>
>Well, well, well.    I see the Old Codger thought it would be nice to
>start a new thread on another usenet group, as was suggested.
>Amazing how you folks operate, but it's all public information so I
>can't see anything wrong that.
>Last page on Alt.conspiracy.nhs
>
>Good for you, Mr. Codger.!
>
>The more that get to see the extent of the problems we're all having,
>the faster they can be resolved.

>
>Burkie

That was hilarious.

I did warn this newsgroup not to underestimate Kansas cowboys.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:02:55 +0100   author:   Pat Gardiner

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
Burkie wrote:
> On Aug 10, 5:28 pm, Burkie  wrote:
>> On Aug 10, 4:40 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Derek Moody wrote:
>>>> In article ,
>>>> Burkie <URL:mailto:Burki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
>>>>> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>>>> Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
>>>> accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
>>>> to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
>>>> part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>>>> In other words:  We already know all this.
>>>> The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
>>>> newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
>>>> the easy political stories are in short supply.
>>>> You are wasting bandwidth.
>>> If he really must post this, alt.conspiracy.nhs would be more
>>> appropriate.  :-)
>>> --
>>> Old Codger
>>> e-mail use reply to field
>>> What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
>>> people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
>> Don't need to do that, sir Old Codger.   This will suffice just fine
>> with me.    We have plenty of people here in North America to talk to
>> that listen and don't badger or begrudge.

Try posting stale news to them instead then

>> Some of them are far more receptive to real news than yourself.

I am *always* receptive to *real* news.  Regurgitated stale news posted 
to an inappropriate news group is a rather different matter though.

>> P.S.   What is it about FACTS and Reality that you can't accept?

I accepted the facts you posted weeks ago.  What is the attraction of 
stale news to you?

> I'd also add, sir Old Cod.......if you have a problem with me posting
> this up, you might as well bitch to the Guardian's editor and the
> person that wrote the story.

They did not post it to this group, you did.

-- 
Old Codger
e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make 
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:34:35 +0100   author:   Old Codger

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
Pat Gardiner wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:22:28 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 10, 4:40 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>>> Derek Moody wrote:
>>>> In article ,
>>>> Burkie <URL:mailto:Burki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
>>>>> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
>>>> Please don't attempt to ape Pat and his idiocies.  This stuff is publicly
>>>> accessible - so there's no need for you to violate copyright. It's on free
>>>> to air radio, probably TV too.  Both topics are long-running scandals and
>>>> part of the reason why our current government are so unpopular.
>>>> In other words:  We already know all this.
>>>> The reports are stale, they are rehashed for weekend publication by
>>>> newspapers desperate for copy while the Politicians are on holiday and so
>>>> the easy political stories are in short supply.
>>>> You are wasting bandwidth.
>>> If he really must post this,alt.conspiracy.nhswould be more
>>> appropriate.  :-)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Old Codger
>>> e-mail use reply to field
>>>
>>> What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
>>> people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
>> Well, well, well.    I see the Old Codger thought it would be nice to
>> start a new thread on another usenet group, as was suggested.
>> Amazing how you folks operate, but it's all public information so I
>> can't see anything wrong that.
>> Last page on Alt.conspiracy.nhs
>>
>> Good for you, Mr. Codger.!
>>
>> The more that get to see the extent of the problems we're all having,
>> the faster they can be resolved.
> 
>> Burkie
> 
> That was hilarious.
> 
> I did warn this newsgroup not to underestimate Kansas cowboys.
> 
We sorry I should not do a Pat and use the royal we, I don't.  Burk by 
name and berk by nature.  It is not clever to make off topic posts, 
particularly when they are very old news.  I would also be interested to 
know what he thinks I have posted to start a new thread.  I haven't 
started a new thread in any news group recently and I don't even 
subscribe to alt.conspiracy.nhs.  I am also puzzled by his reference to 
a "last page".  I am unaware of the use of that term in relation to a 
newsgroup.

The fact that you are taken in by him is no surprise.

-- 
Old Codger
e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make 
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]
date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:45:51 +0100   author:   Old Codger

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:45:51 +0100, Old Codger
 wrote:

>I am also puzzled by his reference to 
>a "last page".  I am unaware of the use of that term in relation to a 
>newsgroup.

I think Burkie uses a web interface to usenet: Google Groups.
There are pages there.

-- 
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in uk.business.agriculture)
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:49:47 +0100   author:   Peter Duncanson

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Aug 10, 4:01 am, Burkie  wrote:
> I'm really sorry to have to put this up on UKBA, but you folks have
> some very, very serious problems.    You don't need to chastise me for
> putting this and the links up, 'cause it's your money that's been
> wasted and not mine.   Not only that, it's your health and your
> families that are being affected negatively by your own people.    If
> you want to complain, do so in a right and proper way to get positive
> changes made for the benefit of yourselves.   Please note:   the
> reference made to the MRSA problems in your own hospitals.
>
> I realize that you've also had to contend with IT problems with your
> SFP scheme, too.
>
> Burkie in Kansas
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ministers-to-strip-coun...
>
> Ministers to strip councils of power to run care homes
>
> By Brian Brady, Whitehall Editor
> Sunday, 10 August 2008
>
>     * Print Print
>     * Email Email
>
> Search Search Go
> Independent.co.uk Web
>
> Care for elderly, infirm and disabled people could be stripped from
> local authority control under radical new government plans in an
> effort to end the so-called "postcode lottery" that sees wildly
> different standards of care across the country.
>
> Social services chiefs have been warned they will lose their
> responsibility for care unless they step up improvements in their
> performance over the next three years.
>
> More than 370 nursing and care homes have been given "no star" ratings
> after the independent Commission for Social Care Inspection (CSCI)
> assessed their services as "poor". A further 31 have been sent legal
> notices stating the CSCI plans to cancel their registration and move
> their residents elsewhere.
>
> Last week it obtained a court order to cancel the registration of a
> residential nursing home in Brackley, Northamptonshire, after a random
> check found the safety and welfare of its elderly residents were "at
> serious risk". Several residents of the home were taken to hospital
> for treatment. Two subsequently died after inspectors shut the home.
>
> The reputation of the sector has also been damaged by repeated
> revelations of abuse and neglect of residents in some of the 10,000-
> plus private homes across the country. Some 150 local authorities
> across England spent £14.2bn on social care for all adults last year
> including elderly people, residents with dementia and young people
> with learning difficulties. Their role is already under threat,
> however, from reforms designed to give individuals "personalised"
> control over their own care, including control of a personal budget
> under the Government's Putting People First programme.
>
> The health minister Ivan Lewis has warned that the Government is
> prepared to go further, and remove local councils from the system if
> their performance does not improve. He said: "If at the end of three
> years, local government has not delivered on those building blocks, I
> think there will be some really big questions to be asked about its
> capacity to commission these services in the future."
>
> Department of Health insiders said the warning could mean the worst-
> performing councils being stripped of their powers – or, in extreme
> circumstances, the power over commissioning care being handed to a new
> body altogether. In an interview with Community Care magazine, Mr
> Lewis said the postcode lottery was one of the "big, big concerns".
>
> Age Concern gave a cautious welcome to the Government's proposals. A
> spokesman said: "We have been concerned about councils being in charge
> of assessing people's needs and then deciding how much should be spent
> on them. There have been concerns about the quality of care offered to
> older people, in particular. At least threatening local authorities
> with sanctions if they do not improve can be of benefit."
>
> But the Local Government Association (LGA), a cross-party organisation
> representing councils in England, insisted that local authorities
> still had a vital contribution to make. "Councils are best placed to
> make decisions on providing care and support to local people, thanks
> to their knowledge of what's available in each area and how best it
> can be managed," a spokeswoman said.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------->    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/aug/10/nhs.computersystem
>
>     Chaos as £13bn NHS computer system falters
>
>         * Jamie Doward, home affairs editor
>         * The Observer,
>         * Sunday August 10 2008
>         * Article history
>
>     A £13bn overhaul of the NHS records system has suffered so many
> problems that hospitals have struggled to keep track of people
> requiring operations, patients with suspected MRSA and potential
> cancer sufferers needing urgent consultations.
>
>     Glitches in the roll-out of the Connecting for Health computer
> system have also resulted in delays at accident and emergency
> departments, soaring complaints and failures to identify child-abuse
> victims.
>
>     The revelations are just the latest setback for what the
> government has pledged will be a key factor in improving NHS services.
> According to the board minutes of the first London NHS trusts to
> install the new system, obtained by The Observer and Computer Weekly,
> it has had a serious effect on patient care, a problem that raises
> questions about its introduction to hundreds of other hospitals and
> trusts.
>
>     A report to the Enfield Primary Care Trust in March reveals that
> difficulties with the system last year meant it did not have vital
> data identifying patients awaiting operations. As a result 63 patients
> of the Barnet and Chase Farm Hospitals NHS trust had their operations
> delayed.
>
>     In April, the trust found that the system had failed to flag up
> possible child-abuse victims entering hospital to key staff, 'leaving
> the responsibility to the receptionist'.
>
>     The same trust noted the following month that 272 elective
> operations were cancelled at the last minute for 'non-clinical
> reasons' and that 20 patients were not readmitted for treatment within
> 28 days at the end of last year because the 'surveillance system for
> tracking' them 'was not operational in the new ... system'.
>
>     The board's minutes show 14,000 people contacted the trust last
> year with concerns about their treatment, compared with 5,500 in 2006.
>
>     A report to the board of another NHS trust, Barts and the London,
> says that for six months to May this year the trust failed to meet
> targets for treating emergency patients within four hours, chiefly
> because staff were unfamiliar with the new computer system. The same
> report reveals that in May there were 'breaches of the two-week urgent
> cancer access guarantee' for the same reasons. As a result 11 patients
> who were suspected of having cancer did not receive consultations on
> time.
>
>     According to minutes presented to the Buckinghamshire Hospitals
> NHS Trust, problems with the new system last year meant potentially
> infectious patients with MRSA were not isolated for up to 17 days. The
> problem had to be rectified manually by staff who updated the patient
> records themselves. 'This took approximately six weeks to do, during
> which time there was a possibility that some MRSA-positive patients
> may have slipped through undetected if medical notes had not been
> available,' according to the report.
>
>     The revelations have prompted claims that the government is losing
> control of the flagship project. 'IT projects well implemented can be
> a huge benefit,' said Stephen O'Brien, the Conservatives' health
> spokesman. 'Clearly from the problems being encountered by many
> trusts, the benefits are not being achieved and all the risks are
> falling on patients.'
>
>     Many trusts have delayed implementing the new system as a result
> of the problems and the chief executive of Connecting for Health,
> Richard Granger, resigned last year. Those trusts that have
> implemented the system complain it diverts staff from key duties. A
> report last month to the board of the Royal Free Hampstead NHS Trust
> said 12,000 patient records had to be manually amended over a three-
> week period.
>
>     'The outpatient appointment centre has experienced a significant
> increase in the time taken to process individual patient appointment
> bookings. This has had a consequent and negative effect on call-answer
> performance,' the report states. The trusts said the problems had been
> or were being fixed. 'We are aware that during initials stages of
> implementation there were some difficulties,' said a spokesman for NHS
> London.
>
>     A spokeswoman for Connecting for Health said patients would be
> better off under the new system. 'Patients can expect faster diagnosis
> and treatment because vital information will be available wherever and
> whenever care is required.'
---------------------------------------------------------------------------In the interests of brevity.......here's an update:    Fines to be
imposed on NHS hospitals for violations.

Burkie

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/nhs-trusts-face-fines-for-poor-hygiene-891487.html
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:12:16 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
In article 
, 
Burkie  writes
>In the interests of brevity.......

In the "interests of brevity", you might have thought to snip your 
nearly 200 lines of the previous message instead of repeating it all :-(

-- 
Malcolm
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:37:25 +0100   author:   Malcolm

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
On Aug 12, 4:37 am, Malcolm  wrote:
> In article
> ,
> Burkie  writes
>
> >In the interests of brevity.......
>
> In the "interests of brevity", you might have thought to snip your
> nearly 200 lines of the previous message instead of repeating it all :-(
>
> --
> Malcolm

Dear Malcolm:    "Will do so in future, Captain."

Burkie
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:43:12 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Burkie

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
In article 
, 
Burkie  writes
>On Aug 12, 4:37 am, Malcolm  wrote:
>> In article
>> ,
>> Burkie  writes
>>
>> >In the interests of brevity.......
>>
>> In the "interests of brevity", you might have thought to snip your
>> nearly 200 lines of the previous message instead of repeating it all :-(
>>
>> --
>> Malcolm
>
>Dear Malcolm:    "Will do so in future, Captain."
>
Thank you, Burkie.

-- 
Malcolm
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:24:41 +0100   author:   Malcolm

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
Burkie wrote:
> On Aug 10, 4:01 am, Burkie  wrote:

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> In the interests of brevity.......here's an update:    Fines to be
> imposed on NHS hospitals for violations.
> 
> Burkie
> 
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/nhs-trusts-face-fines-for-poor-hygiene-891487.html


"in the interests of brevity", he says - and quotes the entire post 
before that.

-- 
Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://wolfette.livejournal.com/
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date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:50:23 GMT   author:   Jette

Re: Ministers Strip Councils Authority on Elderly Care/NHS Computers Don't Work Right/ MRSA Under-reported   
Peter Duncanson wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:45:51 +0100, Old Codger
>  wrote:
> 
>> I am also puzzled by his reference to 
>> a "last page".  I am unaware of the use of that term in relation to a 
>> newsgroup.
> 
> I think Burkie uses a web interface to usenet: Google Groups.
> There are pages there.
> 
Thanks Peter.  That also tells us something.

-- 
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What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make 
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date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:53:23 +0100   author:   Old Codger

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