On Oct 5, 7:10 pm, elder <@outdoor.rrm> wrote:
> Osmium wrote:
> > On Oct 5, 12:56ￜpm, Uncle Al  wrote:
> >> Osmium wrote:
>
> >>> On Oct 5, 9:58 am, Uncle Al  wrote:
> >>>> Osmium wrote:
> >>>>> The easiest Universe to understand would be one where nothing at all
> >>>>> existed. Further such a Universe would have no laws (remember
> >>>>> "nothing" at all exists).
> >>>>> And lastly such a Universe would be infinite---because "finiteness"
> >>>>> like the concept of "physical laws" implies the existence of
> >>>>> "something"---something that limits or constrains.
> >>>> [snip rest of crap]
> >>>> Post the extent of a point. SI and Imperial units are both OK.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
> >>>> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
> >>> Extent of a point = ( planck unit & -1 planck unit) to the 3d power
> >>> in this universe, moron
> >> "such a Universe would be infinite" ￜThat would then be one of the
> >> small infinities, yes?
>
> >> Res ipsa loquitur.
>
> >> idiot
> >> --
> >> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
> >> ￜ(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2-Hide quoted text -
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> > Universe = everything = infinite.  "Such a Universe" refers to what
> > would result if there were no laws constraining size, ie "infinite".
>
> > Either you cannot understand or you are trying to set up some verbal
> > strawman in my post to then shoot down with your "small infinities"
> > argument.
>
> > You should have been smart enough to point out that anything with
> > "attributes" can't be nothing.
>
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There is nothing new under the quantum fluctuation; just as there is
nothing old.  "Everything" = "all the new stuff",too.