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date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:06:29 GMT,    group: uk.rec.cars.modifications        back       
SAAB GM900 2.3 n/a smokey startup.   
3 or 4 times in the last few weeks now I've come to start my car up and been 
engulfed in clouds of blue smoke.
It lasts 15-20 seconds then disappears, it's usually fine and smoke-free, 
but this has come on pretty quickly. There's been no leading up to it with 
it just slightly smoking, it's pretty bleeding smokey ;(

I have no turbo so was guessing at knackered valve oil seals, after 
searching the SAAB forums I can't find any info where it doesn't end up 
being the PCV and/or turbo so I was wondering if it's a common problem on 
the SAAB 2.3 non-turbo engine ?

Anyone changed the oil seals on the SAAB engine, any suprises or caveats ?

Cheers in advance, Tony

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date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:06:29 GMT   author:   Tony \(UncleFista\)

Re: SAAB GM900 2.3 n/a smokey startup.   
"Tony (UncleFista)"  wrote in message 
news:V4GHm.1046$Ym4.929@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>3 or 4 times in the last few weeks now I've come to start my car up and 
>been engulfed in clouds of blue smoke.
> It lasts 15-20 seconds then disappears, it's usually fine and smoke-free, 
> but this has come on pretty quickly. There's been no leading up to it with 
> it just slightly smoking, it's pretty bleeding smokey ;(
>
> I have no turbo so was guessing at knackered valve oil seals, after 
> searching the SAAB forums I can't find any info where it doesn't end up 
> being the PCV and/or turbo so I was wondering if it's a common problem on 
> the SAAB 2.3 non-turbo engine ?
>
> Anyone changed the oil seals on the SAAB engine, any suprises or caveats ?

Fook, wrong NG ;)
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:08:39 GMT   author:   Tony \(UncleFista\)

Re: SAAB GM900 2.3 n/a smokey startup.   
"Tony \(UncleFista\)"  gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

> I have no turbo so was guessing at knackered valve oil seals

Sounds likely to me.

> after searching the SAAB forums I can't find any info where it doesn't 
> end up being the PCV

Common problem on 9-5s and 9-3s later than yours, with various PCV 
upgrades to sort it - it's not so much the PCV itself, as crappy PCV 
design causing serious sludging. AIUI, yours is immune on both age and 
non-turboness.

> Anyone changed the oil seals on the SAAB engine, any suprises or 
> caveats?

I _didn't_ do mine when I had the head off the c900 (same engine).

They're fairly straightforward, though.
date: 2 Nov 2009 19:47:49 GMT   author:   Adrian

Re: SAAB GM900 2.3 n/a smokey startup.   
Tony (UncleFista) wrote:
> "Tony (UncleFista)"  wrote in
> message news:V4GHm.1046$Ym4.929@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> 3 or 4 times in the last few weeks now I've come to start my car up and
>> been engulfed in clouds of blue smoke.
>> It lasts 15-20 seconds then disappears, it's usually fine and
>> smoke-free, but this has come on pretty quickly. There's been no
>> leading up to it with it just slightly smoking, it's pretty bleeding
>> smokey ;( I have no turbo so was guessing at knackered valve oil seals, 
>> after
>> searching the SAAB forums I can't find any info where it doesn't end up
>> being the PCV and/or turbo so I was wondering if it's a common problem
>> on the SAAB 2.3 non-turbo engine ?
>>
>> Anyone changed the oil seals on the SAAB engine, any suprises or
>> caveats ?
>
> Fook, wrong NG ;)

It sounds modified to me, just not the way you'd want it to be....
date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:32:02 -0000   author:   Steve Walker

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