Washed and waxed the 'wagon, cleaned and fed the leather.

Routed a 4-way adaptor from the lighter socket to under the armrest and
ran a cable to power my Sat. Nav. on the right hand side of the
instrument pods.

Then it all went wrong.

Bought a Kenwood Bluetooth / iPod head unit, pulled the old head unit
and plugged the new one in.

Doesn't work.

It appears that installing an aftermarket head unit in a 156 with Bose
isn't quite so simple.

Only one company appear to stock the wiring harness to sort it, and even
having looked at the pictures I'm not convinced it'll do the job for me.

(It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd lose
my fader from what I can see)

-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200 -  - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 Veloce Sportwagon Selespeed -Alfa 156 TSpark- Passat 2.0TDI SE

SteveH wrote:

> (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
> Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd
> lose my fader from what I can see)

Return head unit for one with full quota of line outs.

Tim S Kemp  wrote:

> SteveH wrote:
> 
> > (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
> > Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd
> > lose my fader from what I can see)
> 
> Return head unit for one with full quota of line outs. 

I've been a thick cnut.

For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....
-- 
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www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200 -  - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 Veloce Sportwagon Selespeed -Alfa 156 TSpark- Passat 2.0TDI SE

SteveH wrote:
> Tim S Kemp  wrote:
>
>> SteveH wrote:
>>
>>> (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
>>> Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd
>>> lose my fader from what I can see)
>>
>> Return head unit for one with full quota of line outs.
>
> I've been a thick cnut.
>
> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....

Return user for one with more intelligence

In article <1imws4n.ysl2bt1go2qd7N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH 
says...

> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....
> 
Heh-heh. Already starting to have "senior moments" at your age?

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <1imws4n.ysl2bt1go2qd7N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH
> says...
>
>> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and
>> ground....
>>
> Heh-heh. Already starting to have "senior moments" at your age?

He's going repping in an Alfa. If that's not a dementia-inspired idea what 
is?

On 7 Sep, 17:48, st...@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote:
> Tim S Kemp  wrote:
>
> > SteveH wrote:
>
> > > (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
> > > Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd
> > > lose my fader from what I can see)
>
> > Return head unit for one with full quota of line outs.
>
> I've been a thick cnut.
>
> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....

So it would work after all?

ROTFL... YTC.

hehe

--
JackH

wrote:

> On 7 Sep, 17:48, st...@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote:
> > Tim S Kemp  wrote:
> >
> > > SteveH wrote:
> >
> > > > (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
> > > > Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd
> > > > lose my fader from what I can see)
> >
> > > Return head unit for one with full quota of line outs.
> >
> > I've been a thick cnut.
> >
> > For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....
> 
> So it would work after all?
> 
> ROTFL... YTC.
> 
> hehe

Yes, it would, once I've bought said wiring adaptor.

I'll have to buy another tomorrow.


-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200 -  - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 Veloce Sportwagon Selespeed -Alfa 156 TSpark- Passat 2.0TDI SE

In article , 
news@DONTSPAMMEtimkemp.karoo.co.uk says...
> Conor wrote:
> > In article <1imws4n.ysl2bt1go2qd7N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH
> > says...
> >
> >> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and
> >> ground....
> >>
> > Heh-heh. Already starting to have "senior moments" at your age?
> 
> He's going repping in an Alfa. If that's not a dementia-inspired idea what 
> is?
> 
> 
> 
> 
Especially one with "I wouldn't touch it with yours"* Selespeed.

* SteveH everytime selespeed is mentioned previously.
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Conor wrote:
> In article <1imws4n.ysl2bt1go2qd7N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH 
> says...
> 
>> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....
>>
> Heh-heh. Already starting to have "senior moments" at your age?
> 
Oh come on. It's "eccentric", not a senior moment.

Elder wrote:
> In article , 
> news@DONTSPAMMEtimkemp.karoo.co.uk says...
>> Conor wrote:
>>> In article <1imws4n.ysl2bt1go2qd7N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and
>>>> ground....
>>>>
>>> Heh-heh. Already starting to have "senior moments" at your age?
>> He's going repping in an Alfa. If that's not a dementia-inspired idea what 
>> is?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Especially one with "I wouldn't touch it with yours"* Selespeed.
> 
> * SteveH everytime selespeed is mentioned previously.
I always thing you have to worry if a fanboi says "I wouldn't touch it 
with yours". I actually hope it works, but selespeed has such a bad rep...

SteveH wrote:
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 7 Sep, 17:48, st...@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote:
>>> Tim S Kemp  wrote:
>>>
>>>> SteveH wrote:
>>>>> (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
>>>>> Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd
>>>>> lose my fader from what I can see)
>>>> Return head unit for one with full quota of line outs.
>>> I've been a thick cnut.
>>>
>>> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....
>> So it would work after all?
>>
>> ROTFL... YTC.
>>
>> hehe
> 
> Yes, it would, once I've bought said wiring adaptor.
> 
> I'll have to buy another tomorrow.
> 
> 
Apparently Bose in A3s is hard work to get going with a 3rd party HU 
too, so it's not just italian electrics at play...

Chris Bartram  wrote:

> Elder wrote:
> > In article , 
> > news@DONTSPAMMEtimkemp.karoo.co.uk says...
> >> Conor wrote:
> >>> In article <1imws4n.ysl2bt1go2qd7N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH
> >>> says...
> >>>
> >>>> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and
> >>>> ground....
> >>>>
> >>> Heh-heh. Already starting to have "senior moments" at your age?
> >> He's going repping in an Alfa. If that's not a dementia-inspired idea what
> >> is?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Especially one with "I wouldn't touch it with yours"* Selespeed.
> > 
> > * SteveH everytime selespeed is mentioned previously.
> I always thing you have to worry if a fanboi says "I wouldn't touch it
> with yours". I actually hope it works, but selespeed has such a bad rep...

I'm sure it's completely mad to buy a Selespeed for business... but it
was seriously cheap for what it is.

OK, build date is late 2002 (checked the seatbelts earlier as I need to
book a service and cambelt), but it's on a 56 plate, is a very nice
place to be with its Momo leather and Bose audio. Plus, I needed
something without a clutch pedal.

I've made sure I have a very good warranty, so I'll just keep my fingers
crossed I won't have to use it.
-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200 -  - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 Veloce Sportwagon Selespeed -Alfa 156 TSpark- Passat 2.0TDI SE

Chris Bartram  writes:

> SteveH wrote:
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 7 Sep, 17:48, st...@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) wrote:
>>>> Tim S Kemp  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SteveH wrote:
>>>>>> (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
>>>>>> Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd
>>>>>> lose my fader from what I can see)
>>>>> Return head unit for one with full quota of line outs.
>>>> I've been a thick cnut.
>>>>
>>>> For some reason, I forgot that phonos carry both signal and ground....
>>> So it would work after all?
>>>
>>> ROTFL... YTC.
>>>
>>> hehe
>>
>> Yes, it would, once I've bought said wiring adaptor.
>>
>> I'll have to buy another tomorrow.
>>
>>
> Apparently Bose in A3s is hard work to get going with a 3rd party HU
> too, so it's not just italian electrics at play...

All Bose systems I know of are like that and the most common
recommendation is to rip the fucker out if you want/need an aftermarket
head unit.

-- 
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'94 Mitsubishi Evo II				Audi A8

SteveH wrote:
> Washed and waxed the 'wagon, cleaned and fed the leather.
> 
> Routed a 4-way adaptor from the lighter socket to under the armrest and
> ran a cable to power my Sat. Nav. on the right hand side of the
> instrument pods.
> 
> Then it all went wrong.
> 
> Bought a Kenwood Bluetooth / iPod head unit, pulled the old head unit
> and plugged the new one in.
> 
> Doesn't work.
> 
> It appears that installing an aftermarket head unit in a 156 with Bose
> isn't quite so simple.
> 
> Only one company appear to stock the wiring harness to sort it, and even
> having looked at the pictures I'm not convinced it'll do the job for me.
> 
> (It supposedly takes the line-level output from the head unit to the
> Bose amp. - but the head unit is only outputting 2 channels, so I'd lose
> my fader from what I can see)
> 

I had a bitch of a time getting my jvc to talk to the Mcintosh amp in 
the Subaru.  Ended up having to discover the pin outs and chop up the 
factory cable.  Complete pain.

Fraser