Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... until 
I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick 
gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing for 
about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising speed it 
became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the throttle to 
maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty hesitation. 
However if I floor it it goes fine.

Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the sensors, 
HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to have died.  I 
think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 years/140k miles so it's 
probably due to die.  But then again it could be something else.  Bloody 
PITA!!

It needs to cope with a 180 miles drive tomorrow evening though, so lets 
hope it survives!!

-- 
  Carl
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1982 Rover 3500 SE
1995 Peugeot 106 XSi 1.6
www.carlgibbs.com/gallery

"Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
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> Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... 
> until I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick 
> gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing for 
> about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising speed it 
> became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the throttle to 
> maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty hesitation. 
> However if I floor it it goes fine.
>
> Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the 
> sensors, HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to have 
> died.  I think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 years/140k 
> miles so it's probably due to die.  But then again it could be something 
> else.  Bloody PITA!!
>
> It needs to cope with a 180 miles drive tomorrow evening though, so lets 
> hope it survives!!
>
>

should drive the old girl more fucking gently! or buy something jap or 
german that can take the abuse, both jap cars and my BM have taken my abuse, 
even with a fucked engine i didn't drive it to kindly and it held on for 
months :)
all that don't help you though.

sure it aint a slipping clutch?

"Vamp"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
> news:6gjnvgFgb1epU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... 
>> until I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick 
>> gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing 
>> for about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising 
>> speed it became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the 
>> throttle to maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty 
>> hesitation. However if I floor it it goes fine.
>>
>> Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the 
>> sensors, HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to 
>> have died.  I think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 
>> years/140k miles so it's probably due to die.  But then again it could be 
>> something else.  Bloody PITA!!
>>
>> It needs to cope with a 180 miles drive tomorrow evening though, so lets 
>> hope it survives!!
>>
>>
>
> should drive the old girl more fucking gently! or buy something jap or 
> german that can take the abuse, both jap cars and my BM have taken my 
> abuse, even with a fucked engine i didn't drive it to kindly and it held 
> on for months :)
> all that don't help you though.

Yebbut, do they handle like a go-kart and do 40+mpg?
>
> sure it aint a slipping clutch?
Definitely not.  It's some kind of fueling/spark issue.

"Vamp"  wrote in message 
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> "Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
> news:6gjnvgFgb1epU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... 
>> until I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick 
>> gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing 
>> for about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising 
>> speed it became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the 
>> throttle to maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty 
>> hesitation. However if I floor it it goes fine.

A pipe fell off...
A connection fell off.


>>
>> Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the 
>> sensors, HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to 
>> have died.  I think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 
>> years/140k miles so it's probably due to die.  But then again it could be 
>> something else.  Bloody PITA!!


Coils die at times of stress. Like when wide open throttle as it takes more 
volts to fire a plug due to the increased effective compression.
Ignition leads and plugs are the same.
If its only doing it at part throttle its fuel or injection related.

>>
>> It needs to cope with a 180 miles drive tomorrow evening though, so lets 
>> hope it survives!!
>>
>>
>
> should drive the old girl more fucking gently! or buy something jap or 
> german that can take the abuse, both jap cars and my BM have taken my 
> abuse, even with a fucked engine i didn't drive it to kindly and it held 
> on for months :)
> all that don't help you though.
>
> sure it aint a slipping clutch?


Clutches dont slip at part throttle/cruise???

Carl Gibbs wrote:
> Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... 
> until I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick 
> gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing 
> for about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising 
> speed it became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the 
> throttle to maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty 
> hesitation. However if I floor it it goes fine.
> 
> Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the 
> sensors, HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to 
> have died.  I think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 
> years/140k miles so it's probably due to die.  But then again it could 
> be something else.  Bloody PITA!!
> 
> It needs to cope with a 180 miles drive tomorrow evening though, so lets 
> hope it survives!!
> 

My guess would be the throttle potentiometer has burnt out a track but 
still works fine at WOT.

-- 
Pete M - OMF#9

BMW 325i SE Touring
Range Rover V8 Turbo

"Wait! We can't stop here, this is Bat Country"

On 14 Aug, 22:56, "Carl Gibbs"  wrote:
> Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... until
> I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick
> gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing for
> about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising speed it
> became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the throttle to
> maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty hesitation.
> However if I floor it it goes fine.
>
> Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the sensors,
> HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to have died.  I
> think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 years/140k miles so it's
> probably due to die.  But then again it could be something else.  Bloody
> PITA!!

First thing to do with these is check all the wiring loom plugs in the
engine bay aren't corroded and they're seating nicely.

Dunno about where you are, but we've had some heavy rain here in the
last week and that could have got into one of the joints, so to speak.

Next thing I would do before spending huge amounts of money on it on
things like coil packs (which are indeed a 106 failing), is get it
hooked up on a diagnostic machine somewhere and find out if the ECU is
broadcasting any fault codes.

If so, get them listed then cleared off and try the car again - one of
my better mates has a 306 HDI which kept cutting out just when you
didn't need it too, i.e: when you're doing 80 in the fast lane of a
packed motorway, and £20 of diagnostic code clearing later, it sorted
it right out.

Yes, that's a diesel and this is a petrol, but they're all a bit prone
to running like a bag of the proverbial when sensors aren't playing
the game.

Other common 106 failures (IME of the GTi 16v lumps, anyway); lambda
sensor, MAP sensor and temperature sensors - there's more than one of
these on the 16v lump.

If it runs fine initially then plays up more and more as it gets up to
temperature, I'd definitely start looking at the lambda as they're
fairly cheap and these do little until the car has warmed up.

MAP sensor is another one that gives all kinds of grief if it's not
100%.

HTH

--
JackH

"Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
news:6gjnvgFgb1epU1@mid.individual.net...
> Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... 
> until I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick 
> gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing for 
> about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising speed it 
> became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the throttle to 
> maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty hesitation. 
> However if I floor it it goes fine.
>
> Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the 
> sensors, HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to have 
> died.  I think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 years/140k 
> miles so it's probably due to die.  But then again it could be something 
> else.  Bloody PITA!!
>


When coils die on the Clio V6, you just lose a cylinder - and it idles 
roughly, and drives very roughly, but all the time - like at any revs or 
throttle.  Although ISTR that a couple of people said it's fine and dandy 
till about 3-4krpm then it just dies and refuses to properly rev any higher. 
But the Vee has a seperate coil for each plug, so it's normally (when 
they're idling rough due to dead coil) easy to diagnose because you can just 
pull each one off, and when you pull one off and it makes no difference - 
that's the dead one.  I'd have thought if you had a dead coil pack it would 
just run like a pig the whole time though?  Unless it's just on it's last 
legs I guess?

-- 
Dan
Clio R27 #65

"Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
news:6gjnvgFgb1epU1@mid.individual.net...
> Well I've been out for a long drive tonight and all was going well.... 
> until I came up a slip road onto the M27, accelerating hard, did a quick 
> gearchange into 4th and when i put my foot back down there was nothing for 
> about 0.5sec then off we went.  As I eased into motorway cruising speed it 
> became obvious something was wrong as when feathering the throttle to 
> maintain speed or just accelerate slightly there's a nasty hesitation. 
> However if I floor it it goes fine.
>
> Great, another problem to sort.  Gonna check all the wiring to the 
> sensors, HT leads, plugs etc, but I'm half expecting the coil pack to have 
> died.  I think it's the original, so it's been going for 14 years/140k 
> miles so it's probably due to die.  But then again it could be something 
> else.  Bloody PITA!!
>
> It needs to cope with a 180 miles drive tomorrow evening though, so lets 
> hope it survives!!
>
600 miles later and we've returned home in one piece without any hiccups. 
Good good :)