Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something 
RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
drag strip.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article , conor_turton@hotmail.com 
says...
> Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something 
> RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
> drag strip.
> 
> 
> 
Buy either a BMW 5, a AR75  or... a Capri.

I would advise against a Capri ;-)

But why not a Lotus Omega?

TDM

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> drag strip.
>
Why didn't you just put a V8 in the Capri?  Or did you just fancy a change?

How about a Manta?  Or an old 3 series.  Or a Volvo 240 estate - that'd be 
amusing.

On Aug 9, 8:34 pm, "Carl Gibbs"  wrote:
> "Conor"  wrote in message
>
> news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...> Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> > drag strip.
>
> Why didn't you just put a V8 in the Capri?  Or did you just fancy a change?
>
> How about a Manta?  Or an old 3 series.  Or a Volvo 240 estate - that'd be
> amusing.

I know where there's a cheap W124...

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:

> Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a drag
> strip.

Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into a 
Sierra...?

In article , Carl Gibbs says...
> 
> "Conor"  wrote in message 
> news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> > drag strip.
> >
> Why didn't you just put a V8 in the Capri? 

Because I'd have to undo a shitload of time, effort and money after 
getting it to where it was. I couldn't bring myself to do that to it. 
Decided that as it's probably going to result in transmission tunnel 
carving up etc that getting something I hadn't had any time invested in 
would be a better idea.

 
-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul 
says...
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
> 
> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a drag
> > strip.
> 
> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into a 
> Sierra...?
> 
> 
There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it 
up at least once or twice.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article , conor_turton@hotmail.com 
says...
> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul 
> says...
> > On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
> > 
> > > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a drag
> > > strip.
> > 
> > Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into a 
> > Sierra...?
> > 
> > 
> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it 
> up at least once or twice.
> 
> 
Only do a US small block, not a rover, lighter and more powerful and 
probably more reliable.
-- 
Carl Robson
Get cashback on your purchases
Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm
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"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> drag strip.
>
>
> -- 
> Conor
>
> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> looking good either. - Scott Adams



How about a capri and a small block auto with nitrous?  Should run 10s if 
you do it right easily enough?

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
> says...
>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>
>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
>> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
>> > drag
>> > strip.
>>
>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into a
>> Sierra...?
>>
>>
> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it
> up at least once or twice.


You wouldnt be able to because I am here! 
http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm

But you really need either big downdraft carb/bike carbs/injection and not 
SUs unless like me you know what you are doing!
And nitrous or I wont help!

And 10.5 to 1 motors go well. The rest suck. And the flywheels are way too 
heavy and actually unessasary.

http://www.nitrous.info/images/V8.wav mine...

"Elder"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.23081dd28c6ab54898a12e@news.individual.net...
> In article , conor_turton@hotmail.com
> says...
>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>> says...
>> > On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy 
>> > > something
>> > > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
>> > > drag
>> > > strip.
>> >
>> > Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into 
>> > a
>> > Sierra...?
>> >
>> >
>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it
>> up at least once or twice.
>>
>>
> Only do a US small block, not a rover, lighter

??? Iron and heavy.
I drove an XR8 belonging to a guy I met at the pod.
My alloy V8 sierra handled better, and was way faster in a straight line as 
well...



and more powerful and
> probably more reliable.


When it comes to V8s they are all big heavy and gutless "as they come" sir.
The difference is that they are easy and cheap to tune and as strong as 
hell!

The most powerful V8 is just the one with the most tuning or the most 
nitrous or the most boost etc.
 A twin turbo or serious rover V8 can make very serious power! And be 
reliable. And light!

How do you expect an iron block and heads to be lighter than an alloy one?

The one that I fitted to my sierra was almost exactly the same weight as the 
iron 1.6 ford pinto boat anchor that it replaced.  Much more than double the 
capacity and twice as many valves and eight cylinders instead of four with 
NO weight penalty!
The bell housing (being alloy rather than cast steel) was lighter and the 5 
speed manual SD1 box was about the same as the ford but massively stronger. 
(Read I couldnt break it! after trying very hard with drag strips and 
nitrous)

"Burgerman"  wrote in message 
news:24qnk.143257$8w4.14491@newsfe30.ams2...
>> Only do a US small block, not a rover, lighter
>
> ??? Iron and heavy.
> I drove an XR8 belonging to a guy I met at the pod.
> My alloy V8 sierra handled better, and was way faster in a straight line 
> as well...

I thought the same when it was posted but assume he's talking about the LSx 
alloy block Chevys.

Homer wrote:
> "Burgerman"  wrote in message 
> news:24qnk.143257$8w4.14491@newsfe30.ams2...
>>> Only do a US small block, not a rover, lighter
>> ??? Iron and heavy.
>> I drove an XR8 belonging to a guy I met at the pod.
>> My alloy V8 sierra handled better, and was way faster in a straight line 
>> as well...
> 
> I thought the same when it was posted but assume he's talking about the LSx 
> alloy block Chevys.

I know someone with a LS1 which they could probably be persuaded to 
sell, it's sat in a stock car doing nothing after the series fell apart. 
It was producing 450bhp with injection and a set engine map. If you 
replaced the injection with a Holley it's be pretty mental

-- 
Abo

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> drag strip.


Just as long as you agonise over it for the next three months then just get 
another Capri, to keep it on topic! ;-)

-- 
The DervMan
www.dervman.com

"Burgerman"  wrote in message 
news:UTpnk.143256$8w4.96863@newsfe30.ams2...
> "Conor"  wrote in message 
> news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>> says...
>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>>
>>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy 
>>> > something
>>> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
>>> > drag
>>> > strip.
>>>
>>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into a
>>> Sierra...?
>>>
>>>
>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it
>> up at least once or twice.
>
>
> You wouldnt be able to because I am here! 
> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
>
> But you really need either big downdraft carb/bike carbs/injection and not 
> SUs unless like me you know what you are doing!
> And nitrous or I wont help!
>
> And 10.5 to 1 motors go well. The rest suck. And the flywheels are way too 
> heavy and actually unessasary.
>
Bastard :)

In article <g7m4cp$6u8$1@news.albasani.net>, no@spam.thanks says...
> 
> > I thought the same when it was posted but assume he's talking about the LSx 
> > alloy block Chevys.
> 
> I know someone with a LS1 which they could probably be persuaded to 
> sell, it's sat in a stock car doing nothing after the series fell apart. 
> It was producing 450bhp with injection and a set engine map. If you 
> replaced the injection with a Holley it's be pretty mental
> 
> 
> 
http://www.amerspeed.com/scgi-bin/showultimaengines.cgi

The deeper the pockets, the more mental the engine :-)

Tom De Moor

"Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
news:6g7ktmFehdueU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Burgerman"  wrote in message 
> news:UTpnk.143256$8w4.96863@newsfe30.ams2...
>> "Conor"  wrote in message 
>> news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
>>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>>> says...
>>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy 
>>>> > something
>>>> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
>>>> > drag
>>>> > strip.
>>>>
>>>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into 
>>>> a
>>>> Sierra...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it
>>> up at least once or twice.
>>
>>
>> You wouldnt be able to because I am here! 
>> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
>>
>> But you really need either big downdraft carb/bike carbs/injection and 
>> not SUs unless like me you know what you are doing!
>> And nitrous or I wont help!
>>
>> And 10.5 to 1 motors go well. The rest suck. And the flywheels are way 
>> too heavy and actually unessasary.
>>
> Bastard :)


Why?
Let me guess. Yours is a SD1? or worse a low compression range rover motor?

Power. 10.5 to 1 P6 motors were the most powerful by a good margin (@ 178 
BHP) even with their smaller valves and simple single downpipe 4 into 1 
ex/manifolds..
Thats soley due to the compression.  With the SD1 heads (bigger valve) and 
better (tubular TR8 ones) on a P6 block you get over 200 and masses of low 
down power. Cheap!  Then you get a bit of pickup! Fast throttle response. 
Listen to mine (other link). It has a "very" lightened flywheel and 10.5 to 
one. Sounds like a bike engine with its 8 into 1 Ford Cargo (cheapo) 
straight through truck 3inch bore back box... Actually only box...

SD1 motors were slower 155bhp due to the lower compression and weak running 
(emissions...) SU carbs and different advance curves.

The Fuel injection version was slightly better but all that technology just 
made up for the lower compression engine and its emmissions crap.

Range rover motors and MGB motors were dismal slow to rev agricultural 
units. They had a daft low compression figure, and equally crap power 
output. All due to low compression.

So you know what you have to do!

Plus a good cam, solid lifters, 11 to 1 pistons, and a good valve seat job 
with decent exhaust manifolds, and system, as well as a downdraft carb 
(holley or in the case of the one we did cheap for my brother a bored out on 
my lathe Weber) and lots of power can be had.

They are all dead strong and in a really low state of tune.

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> drag strip.
>
>
> -- 
> Conor
>
> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> looking good either. - Scott Adams


How about an old mk2 Granada? something like this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWRCDtiTQ0

-- 
ThePunisher

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:39:48 +0100, Burgerman wrote:

> "Conor"  wrote in message
> news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>> says...
>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>>
>>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy
>>> > something RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and
>>> > blast down a drag
>>> > strip.
>>>
>>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into
>>> a Sierra...?
>>>
>>>
>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it
>> up at least once or twice.
> 
> 
> You wouldnt be able to because I am here!
> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
> 

That's what I was thinking of when I suggested it...


Also Burgerman, I'm still serious about putting nitrous on my Mondeo as 
the *practical* solution to what I want from it(!). Would you prefer me 
to email you about it or ask questions on here and spread the knowledge 
around? (in a new thread, obviously. I'm not trying to annoy Conor (this 
time;-))

Cheers
PCPaul

"PCPaul"  wrote in message 
news:UhFnk.40359$E41.1589@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:39:48 +0100, Burgerman wrote:
>
>> "Conor"  wrote in message
>> news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
>>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>>> says...
>>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy
>>>> > something RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and
>>>> > blast down a drag
>>>> > strip.
>>>>
>>>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into
>>>> a Sierra...?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it
>>> up at least once or twice.
>>
>>
>> You wouldnt be able to because I am here!
>> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
>>
>
> That's what I was thinking of when I suggested it...
>
>
> Also Burgerman, I'm still serious about putting nitrous on my Mondeo as
> the *practical* solution to what I want from it(!). Would you prefer me
> to email you about it or ask questions on here and spread the knowledge
> around? (in a new thread, obviously. I'm not trying to annoy Conor (this
> time;-))
>
> Cheers
> PCPaul
>
>


Either way. Whats stopping you?

"Burgerman"  wrote in message 
news:boBnk.25459$Gh7.7993@newsfe15.ams2...
> "Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
> news:6g7ktmFehdueU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Burgerman"  wrote in message 
>> news:UTpnk.143256$8w4.96863@newsfe30.ams2...
>>> "Conor"  wrote in message 
>>> news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
>>>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>>>> says...
>>>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy 
>>>>> > something
>>>>> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
>>>>> > drag
>>>>> > strip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 into 
>>>>> a
>>>>> Sierra...?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock it
>>>> up at least once or twice.
>>>
>>>
>>> You wouldnt be able to because I am here! 
>>> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
>>>
>>> But you really need either big downdraft carb/bike carbs/injection and 
>>> not SUs unless like me you know what you are doing!
>>> And nitrous or I wont help!
>>>
>>> And 10.5 to 1 motors go well. The rest suck. And the flywheels are way 
>>> too heavy and actually unessasary.
>>>
>> Bastard :)
>
>
> Why?
> Let me guess. Yours is a SD1? or worse a low compression range rover 
> motor?

Yep SD1
>
> Power. 10.5 to 1 P6 motors were the most powerful by a good margin (@ 178 
> BHP) even with their smaller valves and simple single downpipe 4 into 1 
> ex/manifolds..
> Thats soley due to the compression.  With the SD1 heads (bigger valve) and 
> better (tubular TR8 ones) on a P6 block you get over 200 and masses of low 
> down power. Cheap!  Then you get a bit of pickup! Fast throttle response. 
> Listen to mine (other link). It has a "very" lightened flywheel and 10.5 
> to one. Sounds like a bike engine with its 8 into 1 Ford Cargo (cheapo) 
> straight through truck 3inch bore back box... Actually only box...

Didn't the P6 engines have the rope gaskets?  But yeah, some sort of hybrid 
engine is they way to go.
>
> SD1 motors were slower 155bhp due to the lower compression and weak 
> running (emissions...) SU carbs and different advance curves.

I've converted mine to SUs (previously Strombergs) and have had them tuned 
for the K&N's and stainless steel exhuast (which does sound great BTW)
>
> The Fuel injection version was slightly better but all that technology 
> just made up for the lower compression engine and its emmissions crap.
>
> Range rover motors and MGB motors were dismal slow to rev agricultural 
> units. They had a daft low compression figure, and equally crap power 
> output. All due to low compression.
>
> So you know what you have to do!
>
> Plus a good cam, solid lifters, 11 to 1 pistons, and a good valve seat job 
> with decent exhaust manifolds, and system, as well as a downdraft carb 
> (holley or in the case of the one we did cheap for my brother a bored out 
> on my lathe Weber) and lots of power can be had.
>
> They are all dead strong and in a really low state of tune.
Eventually I'll get to the engine and some sort of 4 barrel will be going on 
there.  I've got a decent engine in the garage for me to play with, so it's 
just a case of finding the time and money.  But that probably wont happen 
until after the wedding next year.

For now the car looks supremely cool, sounds great and still has enough 
power/torque to make decent progress.

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:10:27 +0100, Burgerman wrote:

> "PCPaul"  wrote in message
> news:UhFnk.40359$E41.1589@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:39:48 +0100, Burgerman wrote:
>>
>>> "Conor"  wrote in message
>>> news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
>>>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>>>> says...
>>>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy
>>>>> > something RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and
>>>>> > blast down a drag
>>>>> > strip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8
>>>>> into a Sierra...?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock
>>>> it up at least once or twice.
>>>
>>>
>>> You wouldnt be able to because I am here!
>>> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
>>>
>>>
>> That's what I was thinking of when I suggested it...
>>
>>
>> Also Burgerman, I'm still serious about putting nitrous on my Mondeo as
>> the *practical* solution to what I want from it(!). Would you prefer me
>> to email you about it or ask questions on here and spread the knowledge
>> around? (in a new thread, obviously. I'm not trying to annoy Conor
>> (this time;-))
>>
>> Cheers
>> PCPaul
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Either way. Whats stopping you?

I'll start another thread and tell you!

As a clue though - I haven't got time to write it tonight, got to get the 
kids off to bed.

In article , Tom De 
Moor says...

> The deeper the pockets, the more mental the engine :-)
> 
Sad but true.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <UTpnk.143256$8w4.96863@newsfe30.ams2>, Burgerman says...

> You wouldnt be able to because I am here! 
> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
> 
:)

> But you really need either big downdraft carb/bike carbs/injection and not 
> SUs unless like me you know what you are doing!

Well luckily for me, Bogg Brothers is 10 miles from my house so doing a 
bike carb conversion wouldn't be too problematic.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

"Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Burgerman"  wrote in message 
> news:boBnk.25459$Gh7.7993@newsfe15.ams2...
>> "Carl Gibbs"  wrote in message 
>> news:6g7ktmFehdueU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Burgerman"  wrote in message 
>>> news:UTpnk.143256$8w4.96863@newsfe30.ams2...
>>>> "Conor"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:6g6gc8Feavc7U2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> In article <tAnnk.40026$E41.12401@text.news.virginmedia.com>, PCPaul
>>>>> says...
>>>>>> On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:06:20 +0100, Conor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy 
>>>>>> > something
>>>>>> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a 
>>>>>> > drag
>>>>>> > strip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not stick with the theme and stick a hyuge nitroused Rover V8 
>>>>>> into a
>>>>>> Sierra...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> There's a thought...Sierras are shit cheap so I could afford to cock 
>>>>> it
>>>>> up at least once or twice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You wouldnt be able to because I am here! 
>>>> http://www.nitrous.info/v8-ford-sierra.htm
>>>>
>>>> But you really need either big downdraft carb/bike carbs/injection and 
>>>> not SUs unless like me you know what you are doing!
>>>> And nitrous or I wont help!
>>>>
>>>> And 10.5 to 1 motors go well. The rest suck. And the flywheels are way 
>>>> too heavy and actually unessasary.
>>>>
>>> Bastard :)
>>
>>
>> Why?
>> Let me guess. Yours is a SD1? or worse a low compression range rover 
>> motor?
>
> Yep SD1
>>
>> Power. 10.5 to 1 P6 motors were the most powerful by a good margin (@ 178 
>> BHP) even with their smaller valves and simple single downpipe 4 into 1 
>> ex/manifolds..
>> Thats soley due to the compression.  With the SD1 heads (bigger valve) 
>> and better (tubular TR8 ones) on a P6 block you get over 200 and masses 
>> of low down power. Cheap!  Then you get a bit of pickup! Fast throttle 
>> response. Listen to mine (other link). It has a "very" lightened flywheel 
>> and 10.5 to one. Sounds like a bike engine with its 8 into 1 Ford Cargo 
>> (cheapo) straight through truck 3inch bore back box... Actually only 
>> box...
>
> Didn't the P6 engines have the rope gaskets?  But yeah, some sort of 
> hybrid engine is they way to go.


No. They used a "rope seal" as a rear crank seal. Mine never gave any 
bother. Some can leak though.


>>
>> SD1 motors were slower 155bhp due to the lower compression and weak 
>> running (emissions...) SU carbs and different advance curves.
>
> I've converted mine to SUs (previously Strombergs) and have had them tuned 
> for the K&N's and stainless steel exhuast (which does sound great BTW)


I tried that. (K&N) and all it did was lose power at low to mid revs with no 
gain at the top. The dyno tells me it was slower. It FELT faster because of 
the lack of low down though. I finished up with the air box back on, no 
filter, the end (narrow part) cut off and a 3 inch flexi plastic pipe (see 
pic) taking cold air and small birds and stuff from the inner wing/wheel 
arch area. That gave the best of all worlds with carefully filed needles and 
a lighter spring in the slides.And a better advance curve and electronic 
ignition.



>>
>> The Fuel injection version was slightly better but all that technology 
>> just made up for the lower compression engine and its emmissions crap.
>>
>> Range rover motors and MGB motors were dismal slow to rev agricultural 
>> units. They had a daft low compression figure, and equally crap power 
>> output. All due to low compression.
>>
>> So you know what you have to do!
>>
>> Plus a good cam, solid lifters, 11 to 1 pistons, and a good valve seat 
>> job with decent exhaust manifolds, and system, as well as a downdraft 
>> carb (holley or in the case of the one we did cheap for my brother a 
>> bored out on my lathe Weber) and lots of power can be had.
>>
>> They are all dead strong and in a really low state of tune.
> Eventually I'll get to the engine and some sort of 4 barrel will be going 
> on there.  I've got a decent engine in the garage for me to play with, so 
> it's just a case of finding the time and money.  But that probably wont 
> happen until after the wedding next year.
>
> For now the car looks supremely cool, sounds great and still has enough 
> power/torque to make decent progress.

In article <lKpnk.143255$8w4.97981@newsfe30.ams2>, Burgerman says...
> "Conor"  wrote in message 
> news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> > drag strip.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Conor
> >
> > I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> > looking good either. - Scott Adams
> 
> 
> 
> How about a capri and a small block auto with nitrous?  Should run 10s if 
> you do it right easily enough? 
> 
That's kind of the route I had in mind although maybe without the gas 
at first. Should be able to fit in without too much cutting up 
apparently - just battery tray relocation and that kind of thing.

Only one problem. Someone is selling an absolutely mint Capper Laser 
and its bloody good money and I'm REALLY tempted. On the plus side, the 
missus went to Rotorstock this weekend and went drag racing in her FTO. 
And she'd like to do it but doing it in whatever I build. I did tell 
her about this Laser though and if I interpret the conversation right, 
I think I've just been given permission to get that AND build a drag 
racer.

I'll have to go get a bloody fulltime job now.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <489e957d$0$2917$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, DervMan says...
> "Conor"  wrote in message 
> news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> > drag strip.
> 
> 
> Just as long as you agonise over it for the next three months then just get 
> another Capri, to keep it on topic! ;-)
> 
Might be getting another one before the weekend.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <kqDnk.15785$Lt6.12378@newsfe17.ams2>, ThePunisher says...
> "Conor"  wrote in message 
> news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> > drag strip.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Conor
> >
> > I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> > looking good either. - Scott Adams
> 
> 
> How about an old mk2 Granada? something like this,
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWRCDtiTQ0
> 
LOL. MK3 Tina would be an idea.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6g90dhFeocfjU4@mid.individual.net...
> In article <489e957d$0$2917$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, DervMan says...
>> "Conor"  wrote in message
>> news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
>> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
>> > drag strip.
>>
>>
>> Just as long as you agonise over it for the next three months then just 
>> get
>> another Capri, to keep it on topic! ;-)
>>
> Might be getting another one before the weekend.
>

Hehe that's awesome :-)

Can you get one with a big engine this time :-p ?

-- 
Dan B
Clio R27

Conor  wrote:

> In article <489e957d$0$2917$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, DervMan says...
> > "Conor"  wrote in message 
> > news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
> > > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
> > > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
> > > drag strip.
> > 
> > 
> > Just as long as you agonise over it for the next three months then just get
> > another Capri, to keep it on topic! ;-)
> > 
> Might be getting another one before the weekend.

I don't get it.

You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?

Why, ffs!?

-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

>
> I don't get it.
>
> You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
>
> Why, ffs!?
>

Because he likes 'modifying' cars ?

Bob Sherunckle wrote:
>> I don't get it.
>>
>> You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
>>
>> Why, ffs!?
>>
> 
> Because he likes 'modifying' cars ?

Or perhaps because he just plans to deliberate on the group for ANOTHER 
3 FUCKING MONTHS about what car he's going to get next.

-- 
Douglas

In article , conor_turton@hotmail.com 
says...
> 
> > How about a capri and a small block auto with nitrous?  Should run 10s if 
> > you do it right easily enough? 
> > 
> That's kind of the route I had in mind although maybe without the gas 
> at first. Should be able to fit in without too much cutting up 
> apparently - just battery tray relocation and that kind of thing.
> 
> Only one problem. Someone is selling an absolutely mint Capper Laser 
> and its bloody good money and I'm REALLY tempted. On the plus side, the 
> missus went to Rotorstock this weekend and went drag racing in her FTO. 
> And she'd like to do it but doing it in whatever I build. I did tell 
> her about this Laser though and if I interpret the conversation right, 
> I think I've just been given permission to get that AND build a drag 
> racer.
> 
> I'll have to go get a bloody fulltime job now.
> 
> 


Take the best of both worlds: make/buy a Lotus 7 or a S1 Elise. I would 
push for an ELise because it's just instant joy, no hassle, pure fun 
hooliganism. Keep the missus (and you) fit too as acces requires some 
elegance in and out.

Lucky me has both cars with "mental" engines as an Elise. I tend to 
drive (and trash) the Elise far harder than the others: Lisa takes it 
with a smile and asks for more ;-)

Pretty certain that your missus would not feel misplaced in an Elise and 
hey: we can both put pennies together for that TTS Rotrex supercharger 
upgrade as corner speed is suffiscient but in pure straight lines the 
Porkers tend to let the horses speak.

In my humble experience for women cars tend to fall into 2 categories: 
the ones they love to bits (and give silly names) and the one they just 
snif at. The Elise as the new Mini are squarly into category 1 :-)
 
Tom De Moor

Bob Sherunckle  wrote:

> >
> > I don't get it.
> >
> > You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
> >
> > Why, ffs!?
> >
> 
> Because he likes 'modifying' cars ?

Surely it's better to start with a car you know, rather than some
unknown rotbox, where you end up fixing all the same stuff you've spent
a fortune fixing on the one you've just sold?
-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

"SteveH"  wrote in message 
news:1ilhbmb.7419ch1l2dab9N%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
> Bob Sherunckle  wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I don't get it.
>> >
>> > You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
>> >
>> > Why, ffs!?
>> >
>>
>> Because he likes 'modifying' cars ?
>
> Surely it's better to start with a car you know, rather than some
> unknown rotbox, where you end up fixing all the same stuff you've spent
> a fortune fixing on the one you've just sold?
> -- 

Some people like driving, some like building.

"Bob Sherunckle"  wrote in message 
news:PYKdnT1uNoxT9wLVnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "SteveH"  wrote in message 
> news:1ilhbmb.7419ch1l2dab9N%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
>> Bob Sherunckle  wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>> > I don't get it.
>>> >
>>> > You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
>>> >
>>> > Why, ffs!?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Because he likes 'modifying' cars ?
>>
>> Surely it's better to start with a car you know, rather than some
>> unknown rotbox, where you end up fixing all the same stuff you've spent
>> a fortune fixing on the one you've just sold?
>> -- 
>
> Some people like driving, some like building.

I think he should've kept the tidy one, which I must admit, was very clean 
and shiny when I saw it.  No rot, no scratches etc - I think it deserved a 
Cosworth engine transplant or something hehe!

-- 
Dan B
Clio R27

Tom De Moor wrote:

> Take the best of both worlds: make/buy a Lotus 7 or a S1 Elise. I would 

Conor's a lardy truck driver ;)

> push for an ELise because it's just instant joy, no hassle, pure fun 
> hooliganism. Keep the missus (and you) fit too as acces requires some 
> elegance in and out.

see truck driver comment :P

Go for a VX220 Turbo. A collegue had one with a little tuning (240bhp) 
and some sticky track days tyres and it was much quicker than Elises.

> Lucky me has both cars with "mental" engines as an Elise. I tend to 
> drive (and trash) the Elise far harder than the others: Lisa takes it 
> with a smile and asks for more ;-)

Pictures?

-- 
Abo

"Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message 
news:g7p1lb$knr$1@news.albasani.net...
> Tom De Moor wrote:
>
>> Take the best of both worlds: make/buy a Lotus 7 or a S1 Elise. I would
>
> Conor's a lardy truck driver ;)
>
>> push for an ELise because it's just instant joy, no hassle, pure fun 
>> hooliganism. Keep the missus (and you) fit too as acces requires some 
>> elegance in and out.
>
> see truck driver comment :P
>
> Go for a VX220 Turbo. A collegue had one with a little tuning (240bhp) and 
> some sticky track days tyres and it was much quicker than Elises.
>

Yea for easy tuning they can't be beaten, as it's just the Asta/Zafira GSi 
engine.  Less understeery than a standard S2 Elise as well, although still 
too understeery.  But again, a full geometry setup by a specialist gets rid 
of all that.  I assume your mates is running non-standard wheels?  The usual 
upgrade is to go for Elise style 16s up front, 17s at the back as it gives a 
much wider range of tyres to choose from.  There is only one tyre available 
to the OEM spec of the fronts, but once you've gone to a 16 there is loads.

I'd personally not go for anything as hardcore as Toyo R888 Cups, a la M3 
CSL/Exige, as I'd want the possibility of track days in the rain, and just 
general drives in the rain!  Remember that supercharged ClioV6 that's on 
YouTube?  That's turbo'd instead now (stuck at 400bhp as the heads can't 
flow any more or something, so it's having that sorted with 500bhp the 
target), running R888 Cups as usual, and when he was doing a lo-boost, 
break-in diagnostics run thing - laptop on the seat recording stuff, hit a 
puddle at 35-40mph and just aquaplaned into a the verge on the other side of 
the road!  He said he literally had no control at all, it just picked up and 
slid across the road.  I wouldn't want that kinda wet weather performance 
heh.

-- 
Dan B
Clio R27

In article , DanB says...

> >> Just as long as you agonise over it for the next three months then just 
> >> get
> >> another Capri, to keep it on topic! ;-)
> >>
> > Might be getting another one before the weekend.
> >
> 
> Hehe that's awesome :-)
> 
> Can you get one with a big engine this time :-p ?
> 
Might be a reason why I don't get this one. I'm sort of umming and 
ahhing about it as it's a 2L again. 

Might just wait until I get back from holiday in a few weeks and start 
looking then. Going to look at this one still though because if it 
turns out to be a mint one, I'll probably get it.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <1ilhacu.1kcfp6h1xh0c89N%steve@italiancar.co.uk>, SteveH 
says...

> You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
> 
> Why, ffs!?
> 
OK, I'll counter that with question.

If you spent 2 years and £1000's on a car, getting it to a really good 
standard, could you then bring yourself to rip it all out and take an 
angle grinder to it?

Basically that's what I was faced with.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article , Douglas Payne says...
> Bob Sherunckle wrote:
> >> I don't get it.
> >>
> >> You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
> >>
> >> Why, ffs!?
> >>
> > 
> > Because he likes 'modifying' cars ?
> 
> Or perhaps because he just plans to deliberate on the group for ANOTHER 
> 3 FUCKING MONTHS about what car he's going to get next.
> 
> 
lol. No, the choice is quite a limited one..V6 shell or non V6 shell.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article , DanB says...

> I think he should've kept the tidy one, which I must admit, was very clean 
> and shiny when I saw it.  No rot, no scratches etc - I think it deserved a 
> Cosworth engine transplant or something hehe!
> 
Well the one I'm going to look at this week is better than mine was and 
has some of the modifications I'm planning on doing already done and 
its cheaper than I sold mine for as well. 

The thing is that I have no emotional involvement or time put into 
getting it where it is now so ripping bits out of it won't be as hard 
to do as it would've been with the other.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <g7p1lb$knr$1@news.albasani.net>, Abo says...
> Tom De Moor wrote:
> 
> > Take the best of both worlds: make/buy a Lotus 7 or a S1 Elise. I would 
> 
> Conor's a lardy truck driver ;)
> 
> > push for an ELise because it's just instant joy, no hassle, pure fun 
> > hooliganism. Keep the missus (and you) fit too as acces requires some 
> > elegance in and out.
> 
> see truck driver comment :P
> 
LOL, beat me to it.

"Have you lowered the suspension?"
"Err no, I just got in it."


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6gb8roFf3ipjU5@mid.individual.net...

> Well the one I'm going to look at this week is better than mine was and
> has some of the modifications I'm planning on doing already done and
> its cheaper than I sold mine for as well.
>
> The thing is that I have no emotional involvement or time put into
> getting it where it is now so ripping bits out of it won't be as hard
> to do as it would've been with the other.

If it's cheaper than what you sold yours for then your plan sounds entirely 
reasonable. (OOI how much did you get for it?)

In article <C_udnfAXr5Ha8j3VnZ2dnUVZ8sXinZ2d@posted.plusnet>, Clive 
George says...

> If it's cheaper than what you sold yours for then your plan sounds entirely 
> reasonable. (OOI how much did you get for it?) 
> 
£2.5k which is about as much as you can hope for for a non V6 Capper. 
Bloke didn't even try to bid me down so I kind of suspect it was a 
little on the cheap side.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:13:03 +0100, Conor wrote:

>> 
> LOL. MK3 Tina would be an idea.

It's got the curvy haunches too.. weld the doors up, dixie horn and flag 
on the roof and you're set!

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:11:32 +0100, Conor 
wrote:

>In article <lKpnk.143255$8w4.97981@newsfe30.ams2>, Burgerman says...
>> "Conor"  wrote in message 
>> news:6g614fFe39jlU2@mid.individual.net...
>> > Sold the Capri. On the lookout for its replacement now. Fancy something
>> > RWD and old that I can shove a hoofing great V8 in and blast down a
>> > drag strip.
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Conor
>> >
>> > I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
>> > looking good either. - Scott Adams
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How about a capri and a small block auto with nitrous?  Should run 10s if 
>> you do it right easily enough? 
>> 
>That's kind of the route I had in mind although maybe without the gas 
>at first. Should be able to fit in without too much cutting up 
>apparently - just battery tray relocation and that kind of thing.
>
>Only one problem. Someone is selling an absolutely mint Capper Laser 
>and its bloody good money and I'm REALLY tempted. On the plus side, the 
>missus went to Rotorstock this weekend and went drag racing in her FTO. 
>And she'd like to do it but doing it in whatever I build. I did tell 
>her about this Laser though and if I interpret the conversation right, 
>I think I've just been given permission to get that AND build a drag 
>racer.
>
>I'll have to go get a bloody fulltime job now.

I spy Catch 22?

If you can afford to go drag racing you won't have the time to go drag
racing. If you have the time to go drag racing you can't afford it.
-- 
Peter Hill
Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header
Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!

In article , Peter Hill 
says...

> >I'll have to go get a bloody fulltime job now.
> 
> I spy Catch 22?
> 
> If you can afford to go drag racing you won't have the time to go drag
> racing. If you have the time to go drag racing you can't afford it.
> 
Eh?

I have a drag strip 25 miles from my house. How would I not have the 
time?

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6gdkqcFfbd1fU3@mid.individual.net...
> In article , Peter Hill
> says...
>
>> >I'll have to go get a bloody fulltime job now.
>>
>> I spy Catch 22?
>>
>> If you can afford to go drag racing you won't have the time to go drag
>> racing. If you have the time to go drag racing you can't afford it.
>>
> Eh?
>
> I have a drag strip 25 miles from my house. How would I not have the
> time?

One also could point out that drag races are typically only a few seconds 
long = they're over the quickest of pretty much any motor race.

However that's not the point - the point is that the time is spent doing the 
preparation - building, fixing, improving the car - the racing is merely 
when it all comes together.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:25:14 +0100, Conor 
wrote:

>In article , Peter Hill 
>says...
>
>> >I'll have to go get a bloody fulltime job now.
>> 
>> I spy Catch 22?
>> 
>> If you can afford to go drag racing you won't have the time to go drag
>> racing. If you have the time to go drag racing you can't afford it.
>> 
>Eh?
>
>I have a drag strip 25 miles from my house. How would I not have the 
>time?

I was thinking car build and prep time.
-- 
Peter Hill
Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header
Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!

Conor wrote:
> In article , Douglas Payne says...
>> Bob Sherunckle wrote:
>>>> I don't get it.
>>>>
>>>> You sold a known to be good Capri and will be buying another one?
>>>>
>>>> Why, ffs!?
>>>>
>>> Because he likes 'modifying' cars ?
>> Or perhaps because he just plans to deliberate on the group for ANOTHER 
>> 3 FUCKING MONTHS about what car he's going to get next.
>>
>>
> lol. No, the choice is quite a limited one..V6 shell or non V6 shell.
> 
The strengthening on the V6 shell isn't much anyway. A touch of 
gusseting (Oooh, I love that phrase) at the inner wing / bulkhead area 
and a bit more at the inner sill / rear seat crossmember joint.

Personally, I'd have just yanked the Pinto out of the Laser he had 
(Lasers will never be worth proper money) and thrown a Rover V8 into it.



-- 
Pete M - OMF#9

BMW 325i SE Touring
Range Rover V8 Turbo

"Wait! We can't stop here, this is Bat Country"

In article , Peter Hill 
says...
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:25:14 +0100, Conor 
> wrote:
> 
> >In article , Peter Hill 
> >says...
> >
> >> >I'll have to go get a bloody fulltime job now.
> >> 
> >> I spy Catch 22?
> >> 
> >> If you can afford to go drag racing you won't have the time to go drag
> >> racing. If you have the time to go drag racing you can't afford it.
> >> 
> >Eh?
> >
> >I have a drag strip 25 miles from my house. How would I not have the 
> >time?
> 
> I was thinking car build and prep time.
> 
Ah right. There's plenty of weekends between now and next April :)

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

In article <g7sg48$1nq$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Pete M says...

> Personally, I'd have just yanked the Pinto out of the Laser he had 
> (Lasers will never be worth proper money) and thrown a Rover V8 into it.
> 
Well there's another Laser I've been pondering over so might go that 
route. Thanks for the info on the bracing - a morning with a welder 
would sort that.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Conor wrote:
> In article <g7sg48$1nq$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Pete M says...
> 
>> Personally, I'd have just yanked the Pinto out of the Laser he had 
>> (Lasers will never be worth proper money) and thrown a Rover V8 into it.
>>
> Well there's another Laser I've been pondering over so might go that 
> route. Thanks for the info on the bracing - a morning with a welder 
> would sort that.
> 
If you find a V6 shell, reach down into the lower outer seatbelt 
mounting area, just behind it is a triangular brace that goes from there 
to the crossmember the base of the rear seat bolts to. There's that and 
a pair of triangular plates from the inner wing to bulkhead - dead easy 
to spot and you'll be looking there for rot anyway.

-- 
Pete M - OMF#9

BMW 325i SE Touring
Range Rover V8 Turbo

"Wait! We can't stop here, this is Bat Country"