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date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:24:37 +0100,    group: uk.rec.cars.modifications        back       
Derv Mod of the week   
Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; height 
of excitment i know.

Chip or remap coming up shortly....

Tim..
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:24:37 +0100   author:   Tim..

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Tim.."  wrote in message 
news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
> height of excitment i know.
>
> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>

What kind've boost/power is standard?  What's the boost at now, and what 
will a remap give?  These aren't accusing questions heh, I'm genuinely 
interested :-)

-- 
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:34:50 +0100   author:   DanB

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"DanB"  wrote in message 
news:6f3bsbF9gcs0U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>> height of excitment i know.
>>
>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>
>
> What kind've boost/power is standard?  What's the boost at now, and what 
> will a remap give?  These aren't accusing questions heh, I'm genuinely 
> interested :-)
>

Well. Its the TDi so its fly by wire with Bosch EDC and is supposed to be 
125bhp but very lazy and progressive. Interestingly the t2 turbo is exactly 
the same spec as on the saab 9000 2.0's...

Stock boost is 10psi, after 3 turns of the rod we're at 12psi peak, but it 
is woefully short of fuel.Definately more grunty higher up, but the lack of 
fuelling is holding it back low down.

A power box reputedly gives 150bhp and 70 more torques, and a remap abit 
more. Neither affect boost as its mechanically controlled.

The remap is fixed, where as the power box is adjustable, which is what i am 
favouring even though its abit more crude, as there could be wind of a 
larger downpipe and possibly different spec turbo / intercooler setup in the 
future.

tim..
date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:53:14 +0100   author:   Tim..

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Tim.."  wrote in message 
news:SYudnYvOGLjJcxHV4p2dnAA@bt.com...
>
> "DanB"  wrote in message 
> news:6f3bsbF9gcs0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
>> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>>> height of excitment i know.
>>>
>>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>>
>>
>> What kind've boost/power is standard?  What's the boost at now, and what 
>> will a remap give?  These aren't accusing questions heh, I'm genuinely 
>> interested :-)
>>
>
> Well. Its the TDi so its fly by wire with Bosch EDC and is supposed to be 
> 125bhp but very lazy and progressive. Interestingly the t2 turbo is 
> exactly the same spec as on the saab 9000 2.0's...
>
> Stock boost is 10psi, after 3 turns of the rod we're at 12psi peak, but it 
> is woefully short of fuel.Definately more grunty higher up, but the lack 
> of fuelling is holding it back low down.

Propane...

>
> A power box reputedly gives 150bhp and 70 more torques, and a remap abit 
> more. Neither affect boost as its mechanically controlled.
>
> The remap is fixed, where as the power box is adjustable, which is what i 
> am favouring even though its abit more crude, as there could be wind of a 
> larger downpipe and possibly different spec turbo / intercooler setup in 
> the future.
>
> tim..
>
>



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date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:13:57 +0100   author:   Burgerman

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Tim.."  wrote in message 
news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
> height of excitment i know.
>
> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>
> Tim..
>

I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay of 
execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I can 
do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.

Mike P
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:16:42 +0100   author:   Mike P

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Mike P"  wrote in message 
news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>> height of excitment i know.
>>
>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>
>> Tim..
>>
>
> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay of 
> execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I can 
> do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.

If you are anything like the bloke I know with an STI WR1 a boost gauge like 
an oil pressure gauge attaches by simply linking the lighting wires to the 
switchable live on the radio. Job done.
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:23:12 +0100   author:   Depresion 127.0.0.1

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> wrote in message 
news:NJmdnS-fPv0ySxDVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>
> "Mike P"  wrote in message 
> news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
>> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>>> height of excitment i know.
>>>
>>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>>
>>> Tim..
>>>
>>
>> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay 
>> of execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
>> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I 
>> can do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.
>
> If you are anything like the bloke I know with an STI WR1 a boost gauge 
> like an oil pressure gauge attaches by simply linking the lighting wires 
> to the switchable live on the radio. Job done.
Heh, I'd like to really know what boost it's putting out, as it seems flat 
as a witches tit at the moment..

Mike P
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:28:30 +0100   author:   Mike P

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
Depresion wrote:
> "Mike P"  wrote in message 
> news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
>> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>>> height of excitment i know.
>>>
>>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>>
>>> Tim..
>>>
>> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay of 
>> execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
>> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I can 
>> do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.
> 
> If you are anything like the bloke I know with an STI WR1 a boost gauge like 
> an oil pressure gauge attaches by simply linking the lighting wires to the 
> switchable live on the radio. Job done. 
> 
> 
lol

-- 
Abo
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:29:34 +0100   author:   Abo ks

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Abo" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message 
news:g6kl4t$fh1$1@news.albasani.net...
> Depresion wrote:
>> "Mike P"  wrote in message 
>> news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
>>> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>>>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>>>> height of excitment i know.
>>>>
>>>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>>>
>>>> Tim..
>>>>
>>> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay 
>>> of execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
>>> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I 
>>> can do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.
>>
>> If you are anything like the bloke I know with an STI WR1 a boost gauge 
>> like an oil pressure gauge attaches by simply linking the lighting wires 
>> to the switchable live on the radio. Job done.
> lol

It's not like he doesn't have the money to get it done right he just 
approached it half arsed.
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:19 +0100   author:   Depresion 127.0.0.1

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Mike P"  wrote in message 
news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>> height of excitment i know.
>>
>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>
>> Tim..
>>
>
> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay 
> of execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I can 
> do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.
>

Find one of the thin boost pressure lines, such as that off of the brake 
servo (although some people take it from other places) and put a T-piece in 
it (available from Halfords as things for windscreen washer jets), then plug 
the boost gauge into that, and route it inside and fit it somewhere - either 
in a pod or otherwise as discreet or brazen as you like.  I think the best 
place is if you have an ashtray or something that has a flap covering it - 
then you can just flick it open to reveal the boost gauge when you want, and 
close it when you don't want :-)

-- 
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:51:09 +0100   author:   DanB

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"DanB"  wrote in message 
news:6f64nrFa0mfjU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Mike P"  wrote in message 
> news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
>> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>>> height of excitment i know.
>>>
>>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>>
>>> Tim..
>>>
>>
>> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay 
>> of execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
>> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I 
>> can do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.
>>
>
> Find one of the thin boost pressure lines, such as that off of the brake 
> servo (although some people take it from other places) and put a T-piece 
> in it (available from Halfords as things for windscreen washer jets), then 
> plug the boost gauge into that, and route it inside and fit it somewhere - 
> either in a pod or otherwise as discreet or brazen as you like.  I think 
> the best place is if you have an ashtray or something that has a flap 
> covering it - then you can just flick it open to reveal the boost gauge 
> when you want, and close it when you don't want :-)
>

Cheers Dan. It's a shite old Xantia Diesel, I don't need a permanent gauge 
so it'll be run on a pipe through the window while I check and reset the 
boost, then hidden in a box until i need it for something else.

The MX-5 is being picked up on Saturday, going to keep the Xant for another 
month or so until wifey's eyes are thoroughly investigated and we know 
what's going on.

Mike P
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:07:16 +0100   author:   Mike P

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Mike P"  wrote in message 
news:6f65l4F9umh6U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "DanB"  wrote in message 
> news:6f64nrFa0mfjU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Mike P"  wrote in message 
>> news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
>>> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>>>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>>>> height of excitment i know.
>>>>
>>>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>>>
>>>> Tim..
>>>>
>>>
>>> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay 
>>> of execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
>>> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I 
>>> can do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.
>>>
>>
>> Find one of the thin boost pressure lines, such as that off of the brake 
>> servo (although some people take it from other places) and put a T-piece 
>> in it (available from Halfords as things for windscreen washer jets), 
>> then plug the boost gauge into that, and route it inside and fit it 
>> somewhere - either in a pod or otherwise as discreet or brazen as you 
>> like.  I think the best place is if you have an ashtray or something that 
>> has a flap covering it - then you can just flick it open to reveal the 
>> boost gauge when you want, and close it when you don't want :-)
>>
>
> Cheers Dan. It's a shite old Xantia Diesel, I don't need a permanent gauge 
> so it'll be run on a pipe through the window while I check and reset the 
> boost, then hidden in a box until i need it for something else.
>
> The MX-5 is being picked up on Saturday, going to keep the Xant for 
> another month or so until wifey's eyes are thoroughly investigated and we 
> know what's going on.
>

Oh you found an MX5 already?  Details :-)

-- 
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:30:26 +0100   author:   DanB

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"DanB"  wrote in message 
news:6f671hF9u4peU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Mike P"  wrote in message 
> news:6f65l4F9umh6U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "DanB"  wrote in message 
>> news:6f64nrFa0mfjU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Mike P"  wrote in message 
>>> news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
>>>> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>>>>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>>>>> height of excitment i know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a 
>>>> stay of execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost 
>>>> gauge attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and 
>>>> wastegate I can do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Find one of the thin boost pressure lines, such as that off of the brake 
>>> servo (although some people take it from other places) and put a T-piece 
>>> in it (available from Halfords as things for windscreen washer jets), 
>>> then plug the boost gauge into that, and route it inside and fit it 
>>> somewhere - either in a pod or otherwise as discreet or brazen as you 
>>> like.  I think the best place is if you have an ashtray or something 
>>> that has a flap covering it - then you can just flick it open to reveal 
>>> the boost gauge when you want, and close it when you don't want :-)
>>>
>>
>> Cheers Dan. It's a shite old Xantia Diesel, I don't need a permanent 
>> gauge so it'll be run on a pipe through the window while I check and 
>> reset the boost, then hidden in a box until i need it for something else.
>>
>> The MX-5 is being picked up on Saturday, going to keep the Xant for 
>> another month or so until wifey's eyes are thoroughly investigated and we 
>> know what's going on.
>>
>
> Oh you found an MX5 already?  Details :-)
>

I paid £4300 for a W plater with 57K on it. It's dark metallic blue with a 
factory hard top, FSH, one owner, full MOT and a bit of tax left on it. 
Might be a bit over the odds, but it's mint, all the HPI checks out ok. I 
would have got it today, but it's hard with only me driving at the mo so my 
mates taking me up at the weekend to get it.

Now I can get the spanners out again, and spend all the money we are 
supposed to be saving for the US :-p

Mike P
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:37:01 +0100   author:   Mike P

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
"Mike P"  wrote in message 
news:6f62mbFa18d5U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Tim.."  wrote in message 
> news:aZudnehJl4Da0BHVRVnytAA@bt.com...
>> Boost gauge and tweak of the wastegate rod on the Terrano yesterday; 
>> height of excitment i know.
>>
>> Chip or remap coming up shortly....
>>
>> Tim..
>>
>
> I fancy doing a bit of that on the Xantia, seeing as how it's had a stay 
> of execution due to wifey's eyes..... but I've no idea how a boost gauge 
> attaches, or what sort of boost gauge to buy. Fuelling and wastegate I can 
> do ok. I have no idea about this diesel malarky.

Zero to about 20psi (1.25 bar) would be fine. A petrol-one if you like, 
although you will never see vacuum shown, so half the dial will never be 
ventured into..

Attach it to the aneroid line at the injector pump is probably the simplest 
on the XUD.

I think stock boost on these is 14psi or 1 bar. They are safe to about 17psi 
after which you are asking too much from the turbo and risking the 
headgasket, but respond best to tweaks to the fuel delivery screws, both the 
max delivery and the aneroid settings.

Tim..
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:15:15 +0100   author:   Tim..

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
In article <I7qdnY3JDKh2RRDVnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@posted.plusnet>, 
"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
> >> If you are anything like the bloke I know with an STI WR1 a boost gauge 
> >> like an oil pressure gauge attaches by simply linking the lighting wires 
> >> to the switchable live on the radio. Job done.
> > lol
> 
> It's not like he doesn't have the money to get it done right he just 
> approached it half arsed. 
> 
On the GT4, I used the ignition feed to the ciggy lighter to light the 
el, and the illumination for the lighter to operate the dimmer wire so 
the EL backlight wasn't dazzling at night.
-- 
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date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:55:36 +0100   author:   Elder

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
Mike P wrote:

> Heh, I'd like to really know what boost it's putting out, as it seems flat 
> as a witches tit at the moment..
> 
> Mike P 
> 
> 

Check your pipes too & from the intercooler, I was coming up the M1 in 
mine a few years ago around 70mph pulling up a hill & suddenly lost 
loads of power. I was sick as a parrot, thought the turbo had gone, but 
I'd being doing something under the bonnet at the weekend & forgot to 
retighten one of the jubilee clips & it had worked itself loose & got 
disconnected.

Alan...
date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:08:28 +0100   author:   Alan Smith

Re: Derv Mod of the week   
Alan Smith wrote:
> Mike P wrote:
>
>> Heh, I'd like to really know what boost it's putting out, as it
>> seems flat as a witches tit at the moment..
>>
>> Mike P
>>
>>
>
> Check your pipes too & from the intercooler, I was coming up the M1 in
> mine a few years ago around 70mph pulling up a hill & suddenly lost
> loads of power. I was sick as a parrot, thought the turbo had gone,
> but I'd being doing something under the bonnet at the weekend &
> forgot to retighten one of the jubilee clips & it had worked itself
> loose & got disconnected.
>
> Alan...

Heh. One of of my turbo Saabs, I'd be cleaning out the throttle body, TPS 
and associated pipes. I took it for a quick drive afterwards and it stopped 
about a mile from the house. It was low on fuel, so I just presumed it had 
ran out. So I walked back home, got my can, walked to the petrol station and 
filled it up, then walked all the way up the long hill out of Marlow Bottom 
up to the car. Put the fuel in, it still wouldn't run. Opened the bonnet and 
the intercooler > throttle body pipe had come off, no need for my long 
walk...

doh

Mike P
date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:17:33 +0100   author:   Mike P

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