I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from
the dealer, now there backpeddling as fast as they can so
my question is, how much would it cost you or I to get
Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and locks etc?

Thanks for any help.

Alan

Alan wrote:
> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from
> the dealer, now there backpeddling as fast as they can so
> my question is, how much would it cost you or I to get
> Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and locks etc?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
There are third parties that can recode the ECU. I did have details in a 
magazine- I'll look.

"Chris Bartram"  wrote in message 
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> Alan wrote:
>> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from
>> the dealer, now there backpeddling as fast as they can so
>> my question is, how much would it cost you or I to get
>> Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and locks etc?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
> There are third parties that can recode the ECU. I did have details in a 
> magazine- I'll look.

Thanks, could you let me have the details, but in this exercise the dealer
is prepared to pay her some money in compensation, she would like to
know what it would have cost her if she had to go down this route.

Thanks
Alan

Alan wrote:

> Thanks, could you let me have the details, but in this exercise the dealer
> is prepared to pay her some money in compensation, she would like to
> know what it would have cost her if she had to go down this route.

Phone another dealer and ask them how much?

-- 
Douglas

"Alan"  gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from the dealer, now
> there backpeddling as fast as they can so my question is, how much would
> it cost you or I to get Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and
> locks etc?

Didn't they stop using the red "Do Not Lose Or Else" master key some time 
quite a bit before '06?

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
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> "Alan"  gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
>> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from the dealer, now
>> there backpeddling as fast as they can so my question is, how much would
>> it cost you or I to get Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and
>> locks etc?
>
> Didn't they stop using the red "Do Not Lose Or Else" master key some time
> quite a bit before '06?

I thought so...

-- 
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:07:54 +0100, DanB wrote:

> "Adrian"  wrote in message
> news:6e8t8oF5tdorU5@mid.individual.net...
>> "Alan"  gurgled happily, sounding much
>> like they were saying:
>>
>>> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from the dealer,
>>> now there backpeddling as fast as they can so my question is, how much
>>> would it cost you or I to get Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU
>>> and locks etc?
>>
>> Didn't they stop using the red "Do Not Lose Or Else" master key some
>> time quite a bit before '06?
> 
> I thought so...

If that's the case, don't tell the dealer ;-)

TBH, if anybody *should* know, they should. That's why they charge the 
exorbitant amounts they do, isn't it?

"PCPaul"  wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:07:54 +0100, DanB wrote:
>
>> "Adrian"  wrote in message
>> news:6e8t8oF5tdorU5@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Alan"  gurgled happily, sounding much
>>> like they were saying:
>>>
>>>> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from the dealer,
>>>> now there backpeddling as fast as they can so my question is, how much
>>>> would it cost you or I to get Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU
>>>> and locks etc?
>>>
>>> Didn't they stop using the red "Do Not Lose Or Else" master key some
>>> time quite a bit before '06?
>>
>> I thought so...
>
> If that's the case, don't tell the dealer ;-)
>
> TBH, if anybody *should* know, they should. That's why they charge the
> exorbitant amounts they do, isn't it?
>

I suspect the car wasn't bought 2nd hand from a Fiat dealer, I think the OP 
just a car dealer, not a Fiat one.

-- 
Dan
Clio R27 F1 #65

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:25:48 +0100, DanB wrote:

> "PCPaul"  wrote in message
> news:pKKfk.28634$E41.13997@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:07:54 +0100, DanB wrote:
>>
>>> "Adrian"  wrote in message
>>> news:6e8t8oF5tdorU5@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Alan"  gurgled happily, sounding much
>>>> like they were saying:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from the dealer,
>>>>> now there backpeddling as fast as they can so my question is, how
>>>>> much would it cost you or I to get Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a
>>>>> new ECU and locks etc?
>>>>
>>>> Didn't they stop using the red "Do Not Lose Or Else" master key some
>>>> time quite a bit before '06?
>>>
>>> I thought so...
>>
>> If that's the case, don't tell the dealer ;-)
>>
>> TBH, if anybody *should* know, they should. That's why they charge the
>> exorbitant amounts they do, isn't it?
>>
>>
> I suspect the car wasn't bought 2nd hand from a Fiat dealer, I think the
> OP just a car dealer, not a Fiat one.

I half take it back. But a dealer charges more than a private seller, 
nominally and partly because of the 'value-added' you get because they 
are knowledgeable about cars.

If they don't know or can't find out about this and they pay up anyway 
then that's their (avoidable) loss.

Alan wrote:
> 
> "Chris Bartram"  wrote in message 
> news:1216297893.1002.0@proxy01.news.clara.net...
>> Alan wrote:
>>> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from
>>> the dealer, now there backpeddling as fast as they can so
>>> my question is, how much would it cost you or I to get
>>> Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and locks etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>> There are third parties that can recode the ECU. I did have details in 
>> a magazine- I'll look.
> 
> Thanks, could you let me have the details, but in this exercise the dealer
> is prepared to pay her some money in compensation, she would like to
> know what it would have cost her if she had to go down this route.
> 
> Thanks
> Alan
I think I chucked the magazine: it was 'Car Mechanics' 
(http://www.kelsey.co.uk), but I reckon these were the people: 
http://www.radiocodeman.co.uk/fiat-red-key.htm. I think they'll do it by 
post.

DanB  wrote:

> "Adrian"  wrote in message 
> news:6e8t8oF5tdorU5@mid.individual.net...
> > "Alan"  gurgled happily, sounding much like
> > they were saying:
> >
> >> I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from the dealer, now
> >> there backpeddling as fast as they can so my question is, how much would
> >> it cost you or I to get Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and
> >> locks etc?
> >
> > Didn't they stop using the red "Do Not Lose Or Else" master key some time
> > quite a bit before '06?
> 
> I thought so...

Yes. ISTR it was only an issue on mid-90s cars. Don't think the Marea
had a master key, actually and that was a 98.
-- 
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Ducati 750SS - Hongdou GY200
Alfa 75 TSpark - Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE

"Alan"  wrote in message 
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>I have a friend who has an 06 Punto with no red key from
> the dealer, now there backpeddling as fast as they can so
> my question is, how much would it cost you or I to get
> Fiat to fix the problem? Is it a new ECU and locks etc?
>

Err is this the current shape Punto?

If so, then there is no red key, just two blues and number tab. Fiat stopped 
doing the silly red key thing with the old model..

Tim..