Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only seems 
to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.   Anyone 
know who makes the engine?

"BlueFrog"  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only
> seems to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.  

As ever, it depends on driving style and use.

> Anyone know who makes the engine?

The 2.2 was an Isuzu lump. The current 1.9 (reputed to be a _far_ better 
engine) is a Fiat lump.

"BlueFrog"  wrote in message 
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> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only seems 
> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.

I personally would expect to return mid to high 40s from this machine, but 
my commute is flattering for fuel consumption.

Your Dad's figures could be very different to a petrol version in the city. 
Where and how is it driven?

> Anyone know who makes the engine?

It's an Isuzu donk.

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BlueFrog wrote:
> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only 
> seems to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.   
> Anyone know who makes the engine?

If you're going by the consumption shown on SID the fuel computer, try 
switching it to UK Gallons, it looks more impressive that way.

(c:

-- 
Douglas

It's used mainly for short trips in town so I guess it won't be that good.

By the way how do you switch to UK gallons?

"Douglas Payne"  wrote in message 
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> BlueFrog wrote:
>> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only 
>> seems to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol. 
>> Anyone know who makes the engine?
>
> If you're going by the consumption shown on SID the fuel computer, try 
> switching it to UK Gallons, it looks more impressive that way.
>
> (c:
>
> -- 
> Douglas

bluefrog@hotmail.com wrote:

> "Douglas Payne"  wrote in message 
> news:6i0gb7Fo7tckU1@mid.individual.net...
>> BlueFrog wrote:
>>> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only 
>>> seems to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol. 
>>> Anyone know who makes the engine?
>>
>> If you're going by the consumption shown on SID the fuel computer, try 
>> switching it to UK Gallons, it looks more impressive that way.
>>
>> (c:
 > It's used mainly for short trips in town so I guess it won't be that 
good.
 >
 > By the way how do you switch to UK gallons?

Hmm, sorry I don't know.  My mother has a 2.2TiD 9-5 Estate and we asked 
the dealer to change it to UK settings when it was in for a service. 
Other telltale was that the exterior temp was in Farenheits.  Have a 
look through the owner's manual, a google through some Saab forums or 
even try phoning a dealer, our nearest one is very helpful for things 
like that.

On the MPG front, when it was in US Gallons, it was extremely difficult 
to make it read more than 36-37mpg and in short trips it would do 25 or 
26 going by the computer.  We were shocked and as you mentioned, if it's 
really getting that you're as well with a petrol one and enjoying 
yourself.  I'd measure the miles per tank brim to brim to get a rough 
idea of real consumption.

Now it has been changed back, my mother can make her car read over 50 if 
she's trying hard.  35 is normal for short trips and I make it read 
37-43 or so when I drive it.

Hope that helps.

-- 
Douglas

In article , BlueFrog says...
> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only seems 
> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.   Anyone 
> know who makes the engine?
>  
Your father needs to learn to drive. You should be seeing at least a 
40% improvement over the petrol.


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Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

"Conor"  wrote in message 
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> In article , BlueFrog says...
>> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only 
>> seems
>> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.   Anyone
>> know who makes the engine?
>>
> Your father needs to learn to drive. You should be seeing at least a
> 40% improvement over the petrol.


Several big assumptions there - you still need to learn not to do that.

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In article <48bd7e52$0$2506$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, DervMan says...
> "Conor"  wrote in message 
> news:6i49crFoo1edU5@mid.individual.net...
> > In article , BlueFrog says...
> >> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only 
> >> seems
> >> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.   Anyone
> >> know who makes the engine?
> >>
> > Your father needs to learn to drive. You should be seeing at least a
> > 40% improvement over the petrol.
> 
> 
> Several big assumptions there - you still need to learn not to do that.

I notice you fail to say what they are. 

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

"Conor"  wrote in message 
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> In article <48bd7e52$0$2506$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, DervMan says...
>> "Conor"  wrote in message
>> news:6i49crFoo1edU5@mid.individual.net...
>> > In article , BlueFrog says...
>> >> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only
>> >> seems
>> >> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol. 
>> >> Anyone
>> >> know who makes the engine?
>> >>
>> > Your father needs to learn to drive. You should be seeing at least a
>> > 40% improvement over the petrol.
>>
>> Several big assumptions there - you still need to learn not to do that.
>
> I notice you fail to say what they are.


I did elsewhere, but the main assumption is what sort of fuel consumption 
the petrol would be seeing under these conditions.  The second is that "40% 
improvement" over a petrol equivalent.  That 40% varies very much and is 
usually optimistic.

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In article <48bd8f3e$0$2921$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, DervMan says...

> I did elsewhere, but the main assumption is what sort of fuel consumption 
> the petrol would be seeing under these conditions.  The second is that "40% 
> improvement" over a petrol equivalent.  That 40% varies very much and is 
> usually optimistic.
> 
<walks off shaking head>


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I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams

"Conor"  wrote in message 
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> In article <48bd8f3e$0$2921$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>, DervMan says...
>
>> I did elsewhere, but the main assumption is what sort of fuel consumption
>> the petrol would be seeing under these conditions.  The second is that 
>> "40%
>> improvement" over a petrol equivalent.  That 40% varies very much and is
>> usually optimistic.
>>
> <walks off shaking head>


Whatever.

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DervMan wrote:
> 
> "Conor"  wrote in message
> news:6i49crFoo1edU5@mid.individual.net...
> > In article , BlueFrog says...
> >> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only
> >> seems
> >> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.   Anyone
> >> know who makes the engine?
> >>
> > Your father needs to learn to drive. You should be seeing at least a
> > 40% improvement over the petrol.
> 
> Several big assumptions there - you still need to learn not to do that.

Am I right in thinking that the 2.2 is a fairly old engine used for
agriculture, and not as powerful or economical as the current 1.9?

johannes wrote:
> 
> DervMan wrote:
>> "Conor"  wrote in message
>> news:6i49crFoo1edU5@mid.individual.net...
>>> In article , BlueFrog says...
>>>> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only
>>>> seems
>>>> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol.   Anyone
>>>> know who makes the engine?
>>>>
>>> Your father needs to learn to drive. You should be seeing at least a
>>> 40% improvement over the petrol.
>> Several big assumptions there - you still need to learn not to do that.
> 
> Am I right in thinking that the 2.2 is a fairly old engine used for
> agriculture, and not as powerful or economical as the current 1.9?

Some versions of the 2.2 are not as powerful or economical as some 
versions of the 1.9.

I'm not sure there are very many Saab engines, or similar GM ones used 
for agriculture.

-- 
Douglas

"johannes"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> DervMan wrote:
>>
>> "Conor"  wrote in message
>> news:6i49crFoo1edU5@mid.individual.net...
>> > In article , BlueFrog says...
>> >> Anyone know  what mpg you should get with this Saab?  My father only
>> >> seems
>> >> to get about 26-35 which can't be much different to the petrol. 
>> >> Anyone
>> >> know who makes the engine?
>> >>
>> > Your father needs to learn to drive. You should be seeing at least a
>> > 40% improvement over the petrol.
>>
>> Several big assumptions there - you still need to learn not to do that.
>
> Am I right in thinking that the 2.2 is a fairly old engine used for
> agriculture, and not as powerful or economical as the current 1.9?

Yes, it's relatively old; the 115 bhp is definitely first generation direct 
injection, the 125 bhp has some relatively advanced features.

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