Hi All,

Is there such a thing as a standard (or de-facto standard) airline
fitting used these days please? The sort of quick release thing you
have on yer workshop compressor hoses and air guns etc.

A mate uses the ones from the Snap-On van "because they are quite
short and seem to work well". [1]

Any other preferences and why please?

All the best ..

T i m

(sorry if this is like a tyre or oil question or has been covered
recently) :-(

[1] I would obviously make up an adaptor hose to whatever I finally
choose and said Snap-On fitting as mate has a nice range of tools I
could borrow in an emergency ;-)

"T i m"  wrote in message 
news:48a40067.8214718@news.btconnect.com...
> Hi All,
>
> Is there such a thing as a standard (or de-facto standard) airline
> fitting used these days please? The sort of quick release thing you
> have on yer workshop compressor hoses and air guns etc.
>
> A mate uses the ones from the Snap-On van "because they are quite
> short and seem to work well". [1]
>
> Any other preferences and why please?

Machine Mart, 'cos they're cheap, and open usually ;)
Have some PTFE tape handy and give the fittings a wrap before fitting 'em, 
stops leaks at the thread..


-- 

Tony Bond / UncleFista

www.bradford7.co.uk

Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...

T i m wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Is there such a thing as a standard (or de-facto standard) airline
> fitting used these days please? The sort of quick release thing you
> have on yer workshop compressor hoses and air guns etc.
>
> A mate uses the ones from the Snap-On van "because they are quite
> short and seem to work well". [1]
>
> Any other preferences and why please?
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m
>
> (sorry if this is like a tyre or oil question or has been covered
> recently) :-(
>
> [1] I would obviously make up an adaptor hose to whatever I finally
> choose and said Snap-On fitting as mate has a nice range of tools I
> could borrow in an emergency ;-)

PCL because they are everywhere.
Yes have an adaptor hose so you can borrow your mates equipment.
Get flexi couplings for tools that benefit , which is most !!

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:17:25 +0100, "Tony \(UncleFista\)"
 wrote:

>
>"T i m"  wrote in message 
>news:48a40067.8214718@news.btconnect.com...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there such a thing as a standard (or de-facto standard) airline
>> fitting used these days please? The sort of quick release thing you
>> have on yer workshop compressor hoses and air guns etc.
>>
>> A mate uses the ones from the Snap-On van "because they are quite
>> short and seem to work well". [1]
>>
>> Any other preferences and why please?
>
>Machine Mart, 'cos they're cheap, and open usually ;)

Do they only do one 'type' though, are they PCL?

http://tinyurl.com/5tn9oc

>Have some PTFE tape handy and give the fittings a wrap before fitting 'em, 
>stops leaks at the thread..

Good idea.

I think the ones Snap-On supply might be Hansen Auto-Flo and I don't
suppose they are compatible with PCL?

http://www.kerry.co.uk/hansen/index2_5.html

All the best ..

T i m

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:43:59 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
wrote:


>PCL because they are everywhere.

Ah, cheers. The last time I did anything like this there were a good
few options and I try to avoid that akward moment when the storeman
says "And what make do you want mate ...," ;-)

>Yes have an adaptor hose so you can borrow your mates equipment.

Indeed ;-)

>Get flexi couplings for tools that benefit , which is most !! 

Ah, ok. Another mate has one of those on a air-ratchet spanner and it
did look handy.

All the best .

T i m

T i m wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:43:59 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
> wrote:
>
>
>> PCL because they are everywhere.
>
> Ah, cheers. The last time I did anything like this there were a good
> few options and I try to avoid that akward moment when the storeman
> says "And what make do you want mate ...," ;-)
>
>> Yes have an adaptor hose so you can borrow your mates equipment.
>
> Indeed ;-)
>
>> Get flexi couplings for tools that benefit , which is most !!
>
> Ah, ok. Another mate has one of those on a air-ratchet spanner and it
> did look handy.
>
> All the best .
>
> T i m

I get the flexi adaptors from toolstation, they were cheapest when I last 
looked.

"Mrcheerful"  wrote in message 
news:P%Tok.42359$E41.6268@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>T i m wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is there such a thing as a standard (or de-facto standard) 
>> airline
>> fitting used these days please? The sort of quick release 
>> thing you
>> have on yer workshop compressor hoses and air guns etc.
>>
>> A mate uses the ones from the Snap-On van "because they are 
>> quite
>> short and seem to work well". [1]
>>
>> Any other preferences and why please?
>>
>> All the best ..
>>
>> T i m
>>
>> (sorry if this is like a tyre or oil question or has been 
>> covered
>> recently) :-(
>>
>> [1] I would obviously make up an adaptor hose to whatever I 
>> finally
>> choose and said Snap-On fitting as mate has a nice range of 
>> tools I
>> could borrow in an emergency ;-)
>
> PCL because they are everywhere.
> Yes have an adaptor hose so you can borrow your mates 
> equipment.
> Get flexi couplings for tools that benefit , which is most !!

Yup. PCL seem to be the most common, but personally I prefer 
Schrader.
Especially where extension hoses are used. They don't come apart 
so easily on the shop floor.
Mike.

"T i m"  wrote in message 
news:48a40c2a.11226234@news.btconnect.com...
>>Machine Mart, 'cos they're cheap, and open usually ;)
>
> Do they only do one 'type' though, are they PCL?

Ahh, errr, all I can say is, they fit perfectly with all my other fittings 
[1].

[1] Which were all bought from Machine Mart too.........

I'm not helping much am I ?

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:13:01 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
wrote:

>
>I get the flexi adaptors from toolstation, they were cheapest when I last 
>looked. 
>

Thanks for that. I never look at TS because we don't seem to have one
near us (Nth Lundin) so it's normally Screwfix, the sheds or std car
spares suppliers (or ebay etc).

Good to get an idea of prices and models though.

I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be able to
get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On then)? ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:28:59 +0100, "Mike G" 
wrote:

>
>Yup. PCL seem to be the most common, but personally I prefer 
>Schrader.

Here we go <g>..  Snap_On, PCl, Schrader and I notice Toolstation do a
Uni range (is that another on the list or short for Universal so
therefore doesn't count)? ;-)

>Especially where extension hoses are used. They don't come apart 
>so easily on the shop floor.
>Mike. 

Interesting point.  I bet that's fun isn't it, you are wedged under a
car and running late so give the hose a more than frustrated
I'm_in_a_hurry tug to get it to reach the last foot and you hear
"Pffoomp" from the other side of the workshop ....  :-(

I noticed in my local cars spares place those plastic curved moulded
guides you wedge in front of/under the car wheels allowing the hoses
to run round freely. Did I see them on Dragons Den or somewhere, ages
ago?

All the best ..

T i m

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:29:30 +0100, T i m  wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:28:59 +0100, "Mike G" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yup. PCL seem to be the most common, but personally I prefer
>> Schrader.
>
> Here we go <g>..  Snap_On, PCl, Schrader and I notice Toolstation do a
> Uni range (is that another on the list or short for Universal so
> therefore doesn't count)? ;-)
>

Short for universal. It's not very universal & it only applies to the  
socket :-)

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:37:48 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
 wrote:

>>
>> Here we go <g>..  Snap_On, PCl, Schrader and I notice Toolstation do a
>> Uni range (is that another on the list or short for Universal so
>> therefore doesn't count)? ;-)
>>
>
>Short for universal. It's not very universal & it only applies to the  
>socket :-)
>
Ah, I think I might of meant Screwfix as they seem to do a male as
well?

http://tinyurl.com/6aoh6n

In my world 'Universal' usually means it won't work at all, let alone
with anything else?

Funnily enough though, I like the shorter look of the Uni plug bit as
it's a bit like the Snap-On supplied fitting. I think being shorter
might mean it's less likely to snap-off if you dropped it (less
leverage)?

Why don't there seem to be any real descriptions around this gear? Is
it that such places are for 'The Trade' so should know what they need
/ want or just too many product lines to keep up with? Wiki anyone?
;-)

All the best ..

T i m

T i m wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:13:01 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I get the flexi adaptors from toolstation, they were cheapest when I
>> last looked.
>>
>
> Thanks for that. I never look at TS because we don't seem to have one
> near us (Nth Lundin) so it's normally Screwfix, the sheds or std car
> spares suppliers (or ebay etc).
>
> Good to get an idea of prices and models though.
>
> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be able to
> get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On then)? ;-)
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m

I have one of those, the abrasive pads are made by 3m, so maybe they do the 
backing.  Snap on van would be able to supply, it won't be THAT expensive

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:20:03 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
wrote:

>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be able to
>> get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On then)? ;-)
>>

>I have one of those, the abrasive pads are made by 3m, so maybe they do the 
>backing.  Snap on van would be able to supply, it won't be THAT expensive 
>

Oh, ok and does the shaft have a 1/4" spindle do you know please? My
mates one (probably SO) is a direct screw fit onto his (Bluepoint I
believe) air tool.

Handy the way the pads screw on/off to the backing (rather than
Velcro). That way it seems to hold them on very securely and keep them
dead central etc.

All the best ..

T i m

T i m wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:20:03 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
> wrote:
>
>>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be able
>>> to get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On then)? ;-)
>>>
>
>> I have one of those, the abrasive pads are made by 3m, so maybe they
>> do the backing.  Snap on van would be able to supply, it won't be
>> THAT expensive
>>
>
> Oh, ok and does the shaft have a 1/4" spindle do you know please? My
> mates one (probably SO) is a direct screw fit onto his (Bluepoint I
> believe) air tool.
>
> Handy the way the pads screw on/off to the backing (rather than
> Velcro). That way it seems to hold them on very securely and keep them
> dead central etc.
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m

The set  have came as a 90 degree die grinder plus the 3m holder and pads
My kit is MAC tools ADG4AHK
The pad holder is std. quarter inch shaft mac number RSD5539 and is 
described as a 3M ROLOC disc holder.

HTH
Mrcheerful

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:43:05 +0100, Mrcheerful  wrote:

> T i m wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:20:03 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>>>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>>>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be able
>>>> to get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On then)? ;-)
>>>>
>>
>>> I have one of those, the abrasive pads are made by 3m, so maybe they
>>> do the backing.  Snap on van would be able to supply, it won't be
>>> THAT expensive
>>>
>>
>> Oh, ok and does the shaft have a 1/4" spindle do you know please? My
>> mates one (probably SO) is a direct screw fit onto his (Bluepoint I
>> believe) air tool.
>>
>> Handy the way the pads screw on/off to the backing (rather than
>> Velcro). That way it seems to hold them on very securely and keep them
>> dead central etc.
>>
>> All the best ..
>>
>> T i m
>
> The set  have came as a 90 degree die grinder plus the 3m holder and pads
> My kit is MAC tools ADG4AHK
> The pad holder is std. quarter inch shaft mac number RSD5539 and is
> described as a 3M ROLOC disc holder.
>
> HTH
> Mrcheerful
>
>

Or you can buy them easily on ebay. Check your collety size though, mine  
are all 6mm.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:58:59 +0100, T i m  wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:37:48 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
>  wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Here we go <g>..  Snap_On, PCl, Schrader and I notice Toolstation do a
>>> Uni range (is that another on the list or short for Universal so
>>> therefore doesn't count)? ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Short for universal. It's not very universal & it only applies to the
>> socket :-)
>>
> Ah, I think I might of meant Screwfix as they seem to do a male as
> well?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6aoh6n
>
> In my world 'Universal' usually means it won't work at all, let alone
> with anything else?
>
> Funnily enough though, I like the shorter look of the Uni plug bit as
> it's a bit like the Snap-On supplied fitting. I think being shorter
> might mean it's less likely to snap-off if you dropped it (less
> leverage)?
>
> Why don't there seem to be any real descriptions around this gear? Is
> it that such places are for 'The Trade' so should know what they need
> / want or just too many product lines to keep up with? Wiki anyone?
> ;-)
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m
>
>
>

There's only about 3 noramally around.
http://www.flomax.ie/category.asp?Category_Id=1 if you're bored.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:43:05 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
wrote:

>T i m wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:20:03 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>>>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>>>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be able
>>>> to get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On then)? ;-)
>>>>
>>
>The set  have came as a 90 degree die grinder plus the 3m holder and pads
>My kit is MAC tools ADG4AHK
>The pad holder is std. quarter inch shaft mac number RSD5539 and is 
>described as a 3M ROLOC disc holder.

Ah cheers, so that's what they are called then. ;-)

So where did you get these sets from can you remember please, was it
in the UK?

Are MAC Sold through Stanley here?

All the best ..

T i m

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:50:12 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
 wrote:


>Or you can buy them easily on ebay.

Now I know what they are called I can. ;-)

> Check your collety size though, mine  
>are all 6mm.

Ah, ok. I've just emailed one of the sellers to ask.

All the best ..

T i m

T i m wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:43:05 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
> wrote:
>
>> T i m wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:20:03 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>>>>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>>>>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be
>>>>> able to get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On
>>>>> then)? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>
>> The set  have came as a 90 degree die grinder plus the 3m holder and
>> pads My kit is MAC tools ADG4AHK
>> The pad holder is std. quarter inch shaft mac number RSD5539 and is
>> described as a 3M ROLOC disc holder.
>
> Ah cheers, so that's what they are called then. ;-)
>
> So where did you get these sets from can you remember please, was it
> in the UK?
>
> Are MAC Sold through Stanley here?
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m

MAC have their own travelling vans, like a low budget snap on.

T i m wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:43:05 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
> wrote:
>
>> T i m wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:20:03 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>>>>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>>>>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be
>>>>> able to get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On
>>>>> then)? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>
>> The set  have came as a 90 degree die grinder plus the 3m holder and
>> pads My kit is MAC tools ADG4AHK
>> The pad holder is std. quarter inch shaft mac number RSD5539 and is
>> described as a 3M ROLOC disc holder.
>
> Ah cheers, so that's what they are called then. ;-)
>
> So where did you get these sets from can you remember please, was it
> in the UK?
>
> Are MAC Sold through Stanley here?
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m

buy one here for about a tenner:
http://www.consumablesexpress.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Roloc_Range.html

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:43:08 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
wrote:


>> Are MAC Sold through Stanley here?
>>
>
>MAC have their own travelling vans, like a low budget snap on. 

Ah, cheers, I'll keep an eye out (do they get near Norf Lundin do you
know)? 

All the best ..

T i m

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:44:17 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
wrote:


>>>>>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>>>>>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>>>>>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be
>>>>>> able to get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On
>>>>>> then)? ;-)
>
>buy one here for about a tenner:
>http://www.consumablesexpress.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Roloc_Range.html 
>
Ah, cool. 

I'm not sure that is the same thing you see on eBay (it looks better /
more versatile).

All the best ..

T i m

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:03:02 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
 wrote:


>
>There's only about 3 noramally around.
>http://www.flomax.ie/category.asp?Category_Id=1 if you're bored.

Yeah, thanks a bunch for that Duncan, just what I needed, more choice!

All the best ..

T i m

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:55:28 +0100, T i m  wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:03:02 +0100, "Duncan Wood"
>  wrote:
>
>
>>
>> There's only about 3 noramally around.
>> http://www.flomax.ie/category.asp?Category_Id=1 if you're bored.
>
> Yeah, thanks a bunch for that Duncan, just what I needed, more choice!
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m
>
>
>

Well for garage use pcl or universal & 1/4" (or 3/8" for the impact  
wrench/anything else that thirsty) are fine.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:53:02 +0100, T i m  wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:44:17 GMT, "Mrcheerful" 
> wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>> I'm still looking for one of those little (40mm diameter) rubber
>>>>>>> sanding backs that takes those little screw-on sanding / grinding
>>>>>>> pads. Ideally I'd like it to fit a 1/4" air die grinder and be
>>>>>>> able to get the spare pads easily and cheaply (so not Snap-On
>>>>>>> then)? ;-)
>>
>> buy one here for about a tenner:
>> http://www.consumablesexpress.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Roloc_Range.html
>>
> Ah, cool.
>
> I'm not sure that is the same thing you see on eBay (it looks better /
> more versatile).
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m
>


The main advantage of ebay is you can get a mixed bag. Personally I find  
the surface conditioning discs incredibly usefull.