I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir and pump.
Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.

It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1] with a
screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not convinced that I can get
the tab bent closed solidly.

[1] Just visible on the left side of the clamp.

In article <g622o4$df8$1@registered.motzarella.org>, TD says...
> I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir and pump.
> Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at
> http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.
> 
> It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1] with a
> screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not convinced that I can get
> the tab bent closed solidly.
> 
Don't bother. Once they're removed, they're fucked TBH although you can 
put them back on if you've a pair of grips that open up wide enough. 
Just use a normal jubilee clip instead. 

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In article <g622o4$df8$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
   TD  wrote:
> I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir and
> pump. Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.

> It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1] with a
> screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not convinced that I
> can get the tab bent closed solidly.

> [1] Just visible on the left side of the clamp.

My guess is you need a special tool to crimp them - like most crimps.

But they're a waste of time anyway and always leak. Replace with a good
quality jubilee type.

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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"TD"  wrote in message 
news:g622o4$df8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir and 
> pump.
> Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at
> http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.
>
> It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1] with a
> screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not convinced that I can 
> get
> the tab bent closed solidly.
>
> [1] Just visible on the left side of the clamp.

They're not meant to be reused.
You're supposed to fit new ones, or you can change them for a normal hose 
clip if there is sufficient room.

On 2008-07-21, moray  wrote:
>
> "TD"  wrote in message 
> news:g622o4$df8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir and 
>> pump.
>> Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at
>> http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.
>>
>> It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1] with a
>> screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not convinced that I can 
>> get
>> the tab bent closed solidly.
>>
>> [1] Just visible on the left side of the clamp.
>
> They're not meant to be reused.
> You're supposed to fit new ones, 

Well yes, I have a new one to fit.  But I'm not sure how to fit it without
breaking it.

> or you can change them for a normal hose 
> clip if there is sufficient room.
>

I seem to remember that normal jubilee clips are more likely to leak,
something to do with the way the force is applied.  I could be talking
bollocks though.

In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type, just for
interest.

On 2008-07-21, Dave Plowman (News)  wrote:
> In article <g622o4$df8$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
>    TD  wrote:
>> I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir and
>> pump. Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at
>
> http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.
>
>> It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1] with a
>> screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not convinced that I
>> can get the tab bent closed solidly.
>
>> [1] Just visible on the left side of the clamp.
>
> My guess is you need a special tool to crimp them - like most crimps.
>

Hmm, not impossible I suppose.  I might ask my friendly BMW dealer, although
they generally know fuck all.

TD wrote:
> On 2008-07-21, moray  wrote:
>>
>> "TD"  wrote in message
>> news:g622o4$df8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir
>>> and pump.
>>> Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at
>>> http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.
>>>
>>> It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1]
>>> with a screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not
>>> convinced that I can get
>>> the tab bent closed solidly.
>>>
>>> [1] Just visible on the left side of the clamp.
>>
>> They're not meant to be reused.
>> You're supposed to fit new ones,
>
> Well yes, I have a new one to fit.  But I'm not sure how to fit it
> without breaking it.
>
>> or you can change them for a normal hose
>> clip if there is sufficient room.
>>
>
> I seem to remember that normal jubilee clips are more likely to leak,
> something to do with the way the force is applied.  I could be talking
> bollocks though.
>
> In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type, just for
> interest.

The clip in the picture appears to be a new one.  put it round the hose and 
clip the end onto its lug, then get a pair of crimping pliers and squeeze 
the raised section so that it sort of pops out into a little circle.  You 
often find these clips on CV boot kits, I use a modified pair of nail 
pincers to do them up, the mod is that you grnd the sharpness off the bit 
that grips and extend the handles with a couple of bits of tubing.  If it is 
too awkward then just use a good quality jubilee type clip.

TD  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> They're not meant to be reused.
>> You're supposed to fit new ones,

> Well yes, I have a new one to fit.  But I'm not sure how to fit it
> without breaking it.

Don't. Bin it and put a proper Jubilee on.

>> or you can change them for a normal hose clip if there is sufficient
>> room.

> I seem to remember that normal jubilee clips are more likely to leak,
> something to do with the way the force is applied.  I could be talking
> bollocks though.

Indeed... The reason that kind of clamp's used in production is nothing 
to do with increased reliability, and everything to do with ease of 
fitting on the production line.

> In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type, just for
> interest.

Special tool. Or a pair of end-cutters if you're a bodgemonkey.

On 2008-07-21, Mrcheerful  wrote:
> TD wrote:
>>
>> In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type, just for
>> interest.
>
> The clip in the picture appears to be a new one.  

Yes it is.

> put it round the hose and 
> clip the end onto its lug,

It's already clipped on.

> then get a pair of crimping pliers 

What sort of crimping pliers?  Just searched the web, and there are a million
sorts, none of which appear tailored to the job.

> and squeeze 
> the raised section so that it sort of pops out into a little circle.  You 
> often find these clips on CV boot kits, I use a modified pair of nail 
> pincers to do them up, the mod is that you grnd the sharpness off the bit 
> that grips and extend the handles with a couple of bits of tubing.  

I see.  I wonder if I could do it up with some pincers.  Is there any click or
way to know when it's tight enough, or is it just a matter of common sense?

> If it is 
> too awkward then just use a good quality jubilee type clip. 
>

Thanks Mrcheerful, a mine of information as always.

On 2008-07-21, Adrian  wrote:
> TD  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
>>> They're not meant to be reused.
>>> You're supposed to fit new ones,
>
>> Well yes, I have a new one to fit.  But I'm not sure how to fit it
>> without breaking it.
>
> Don't. Bin it and put a proper Jubilee on.

This seems to be the general consensus.

>
>>> or you can change them for a normal hose clip if there is sufficient
>>> room.
>
>> I seem to remember that normal jubilee clips are more likely to leak,
>> something to do with the way the force is applied.  I could be talking
>> bollocks though.
>
> Indeed... The reason that kind of clamp's used in production is nothing 
> to do with increased reliability, and everything to do with ease of 
> fitting on the production line.

Ah.  Seems strange that they don't use them an awful lot more.

>
>> In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type, just for
>> interest.
>
> Special tool. Or a pair of end-cutters if you're a bodgemonkey.

<fx: googles>

Ah, when I said "pincers" in my reply above, I meant end-cutters.  So I'm a
bodgemonkey, what do I win?

TD  gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

> So I'm a bodgemonkey, what do I win?

This.

<passes half roll of gaffer tape>

TD wrote:
> On 2008-07-21, Mrcheerful  wrote:
>> TD wrote:
>>>
>>> In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type, just
>>> for interest.
>>
>> The clip in the picture appears to be a new one.
>
> Yes it is.
>
>> put it round the hose and
>> clip the end onto its lug,
>
> It's already clipped on.
>
>> then get a pair of crimping pliers
>
> What sort of crimping pliers?  Just searched the web, and there are a
> million sorts, none of which appear tailored to the job.
>
>> and squeeze
>> the raised section so that it sort of pops out into a little circle.
>> You often find these clips on CV boot kits, I use a modified pair of
>> nail pincers to do them up, the mod is that you grnd the sharpness
>> off the bit that grips and extend the handles with a couple of bits
>> of tubing.
>
> I see.  I wonder if I could do it up with some pincers.  Is there any
> click or way to know when it's tight enough, or is it just a matter
> of common sense?
>
>> If it is
>> too awkward then just use a good quality jubilee type clip.
>>
>
> Thanks Mrcheerful, a mine of information as always.

You can judge by how much it squishes into the rubber, generally when it is 
level with the surface is about right.  check by whether you can twist the 
hose, if you can't it is probably about right

"TD"  wrote in message
news:g62924$hfe$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> On 2008-07-21, Mrcheerful  wrote:
>> TD wrote:
>>>
>>> In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type,
>>> just for
>>> interest.
>>
>> The clip in the picture appears to be a new one.
>
> Yes it is.
>
>> put it round the hose and
>> clip the end onto its lug,
>
> It's already clipped on.
>
>> then get a pair of crimping pliers
>
> What sort of crimping pliers?  Just searched the web, and there
> are a million
> sorts, none of which appear tailored to the job.

I use some pliers like these:-
http://snipurl.com/32ip2
to squeeze the raised part of the clamp, and prefer that type of 
clamp for hydraulic hoses, as they clamp the hose more evenly 
than a Jubilee clip.
Mike..

In article <gLSdnb6ldd_NKhnVnZ2dnUVZ8s3inZ2d@posted.plusnet>,
   Mike G  wrote:
> I use some pliers like these:-
> http://snipurl.com/32ip2
> to squeeze the raised part of the clamp, and prefer that type of 
> clamp for hydraulic hoses, as they clamp the hose more evenly 
> than a Jubilee clip.

They may do until the 'rubber' shrinks slightly then they leak. A jubilee
clip can be tightened.

Had problems with these crimps on my E39 - and also on the oil cooler on
the SD1.

-- 
*When a clock is hungry it goes back four seconds*

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"TD"  wrote in message 
news:g627vn$r7q$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> On 2008-07-21, moray  wrote:
>>
>> "TD"  wrote in message
>> news:g622o4$df8$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> I'm replacing the power steering hose between the fluid reservoir and
>>> pump.
>>> Car is an E39 M5.  The clip is like the one on the right at
>>> http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=68783&d=1216422882.
>>>
>>> It's easy enough to take these clamps off by levering the tab[1] with a
>>> screwdriver, but how should they be fitted?  I'm not convinced that I 
>>> can
>>> get
>>> the tab bent closed solidly.
>>>
>>> [1] Just visible on the left side of the clamp.
>>
>> They're not meant to be reused.
>> You're supposed to fit new ones,
>
> Well yes, I have a new one to fit.  But I'm not sure how to fit it without
> breaking it.
>
>> or you can change them for a normal hose
>> clip if there is sufficient room.
>>
>
> I seem to remember that normal jubilee clips are more likely to leak,
> something to do with the way the force is applied.  I could be talking
> bollocks though.
>
> In any case, I'd like to know how to fit clips of that type, just for
> interest.

Jubilee style clips do tend to leak more if you don't use the correct sized 
one, or you're using them on small hoses

Main thing is to get one the correct size for the hose.