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date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:47:22 +0800,    group: uk.rec.cars.maintenance        back       
Princess Calipers - not again!   
Hi Just picked up the string from January for Princess Calipers - but 
couldn't contribute to that conversation for some reason.

I have same and have had SD1 4 pots amonst others.  SD1 are different, 
heavier duty (more than 1Kg per caliper heavier).  Beloved of TR7 and MGB 
modifiers though.

Princess calipers were produced by Lockheed and had a 3 1/4" mounting 
bracket fitting, making them compatible with Girling Type 14 & 16 2 pot 
calipers fitted to Fords/BMCs/BLs of the day.  They also showed up on some 
Sherpa/LDV 400s and some Transits.

Essentially they were a cheap way into better braking, although I have to 
say that I would rather see them on an Austin Princess or Ambassador these 
days.

As to Range Rover upgrades - fitting vented disks doesn't improve braking 
per se, what vented disks do is cool the disk rotors faster, allowing 
continued high speed braking due to less brake fade.

I have a question for all you knowledgeable people out there.  Does anyone 
know of a sliding piston type caliper that has the same 3 1/4" mounting 
spacing on the carrier as the Princess caliper? Mondeos/Sierras/Golfs etc. 
are wider, Vauxhalls are narrower; maybe first generation sliding calipers 
like Maestro/Montego/Metro or something like?

Chris
and yes I do have a Marina like the name suggests
www.marinacoupe.co.uk

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date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:47:22 +0800   author:   Chris Weedon

Re: Princess Calipers - not again!   
In article , Chris Weedon 
says...

> I have a question for all you knowledgeable people out there.  Does anyone 
> know of a sliding piston type caliper that has the same 3 1/4" mounting 
> spacing on the carrier as the Princess caliper? Mondeos/Sierras/Golfs etc. 
> are wider, Vauxhalls are narrower; maybe first generation sliding calipers 
> like Maestro/Montego/Metro or something like?
> 
No but Wilwood do a direct replacement 4 pot caliper for the Ford M16 
Caliper for both metric and UNF caliper bolts. And as the Princess 4 
pot caliper was a bolt on "upgrade" for Capris and Escorts with the M16 
calipers, the same Wilwood caliper will do the job.

You want the M16 Powerlite caliper. They're £117.50 each from Burton 
Power and come in widths for either the 245mmx12.7mm solid disc or 
247mmx20mm vented discs.

-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:52:21 +0100   author:   Conor

Re: Princess Calipers - not again!   
"Conor"  wrote in message 
news:6ejiktF7cr8fU3@mid.individual.net...
You want the M16 Powerlite caliper. They're £117.50 each from Burton
Power and come in widths for either the 245mmx12.7mm solid disc or
247mmx20mm vented discs.

If they're for a road car, make sure the calipers have dust seals fitted.
Wilwood Powerlites didn't used to (may do now) have any, no problem on a 
track car, but with all the shite on winter roads I reckon they'd seize 
pretty easily :)

-- 

Tony Bond / UncleFista

www.bradford7.co.uk

Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:57:09 +0100   author:   Tony \(UncleFista\)

Re: Princess Calipers - not again!   
Thanks guys,

I have had a look at the ally 4 pots and I agree that they look good and are 
very light.  I shan't be track daying or anything (in a Marina?), what I was 
looking for are some cheap replacements for the standard Girling Type 14s, 
as I use the car mainly for fast road and going to car shows etc.  Also I'd 
like to upgrade to something simpler/newer/easier to get parts for - hence 
the question about single piston calipers.

If anyone does know about the caliper carrier mount spacing, I'd appreciate 
it.

Chris

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date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:01:58 +0800   author:   Chris Weedon

Re: Princess Calipers - not again!   
In article , Chris Weedon 
says...
> Thanks guys,
> 
> I have had a look at the ally 4 pots and I agree that they look good and are 
> very light.  I shan't be track daying or anything (in a Marina?), what I was 
> looking for are some cheap replacements for the standard Girling Type 14s, 
> as I use the car mainly for fast road and going to car shows etc.  Also I'd 
> like to upgrade to something simpler/newer/easier to get parts for - hence 
> the question about single piston calipers.
> 
> If anyone does know about the caliper carrier mount spacing, I'd appreciate 
> it.

Sorry I don't but Caprisport do a kit which allows you to upgrade to 
260mm discs and run Granada calipers or if you're runnigng 14" or 
larger rims, 283mm discs with Mondeo calipers. Downside is that on 
Escorts and Capris at least, there's some machining of the hub required 
for the brake discs.


-- 
Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't 
looking good either. - Scott Adams
date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:17 +0100   author:   Conor

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