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date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:15:37 -0000,    group: uk.rec.cars.classic        back       
Car ID   
Is it possible to identfy a car by its registration number?  I've tried 
Google and various registration sites but no luck.  The car in question is 
WMC 180.

The reaon I ask is that I followed this car yesterday in Horley, and I am 
intrigued to know what it was.  My best guess is a Paramount, a mid-fifties 
1172 Ford Special - so it may be registered as a Ford, although Paramount 
were certainly listed as a manufacturer in 1954.  I don't think they were 
supplied in kit form, though.  It certainly had the same wing shapes as a 
Paramount, although with some significant differences - the front wheels 
were spatted but not the rears, and it had enormous double bumpers - almost 
bull bars - fore and aft.  General appearance was of a rather ungainly cross 
between a Jowett Jupiter and a Karmann Ghia.

I should think it's quite well known, as it appeared to be in concours 
order.

TIA

Geoff MacK
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:15:37 -0000   author:   Geoff Mackenzie

Re: Car ID   
Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
> Is it possible to identfy a car by its registration number?  I've tried 
> Google and various registration sites but no luck.  The car in question 
> is WMC 180.
> 
> The reaon I ask is that I followed this car yesterday in Horley, and I 
> am intrigued to know what it was.  My best guess is a Paramount, a 
> mid-fifties 1172 Ford Special - so it may be registered as a Ford, 
> although Paramount were certainly listed as a manufacturer in 1954.  I 
> don't think they were supplied in kit form, though.  It certainly had 
> the same wing shapes as a Paramount, although with some significant 
> differences - the front wheels were spatted but not the rears, and it 
> had enormous double bumpers - almost bull bars - fore and aft.  General 
> appearance was of a rather ungainly cross between a Jowett Jupiter and a 
> Karmann Ghia.
> 
> I should think it's quite well known, as it appeared to be in concours 
> order.

It's a Frazer Nash 319 Cabriolet
-- 
Pete M - OMF#9

'62 Rover P4 100
'61 Rover P5 3 litre
'78 Escort 1300 Sport
'99 Audi A6 V6 Quattro Avant


"It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your 
Alfa experience be different from everyone else's.
Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks."
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:19:23 +0000   author:   Pete M

Re: Car ID   
"Pete M"  wrote in message 
news:hcp3j4$8kb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
>> Is it possible to identfy a car by its registration number?  I've tried 
>> Google and various registration sites but no luck.  The car in question 
>> is WMC 180.
>>
>> The reaon I ask is that I followed this car yesterday in Horley, and I am 
>> intrigued to know what it was.  My best guess is a Paramount, a 
>> mid-fifties 1172 Ford Special - so it may be registered as a Ford, 
>> although Paramount were certainly listed as a manufacturer in 1954.  I 
>> don't think they were supplied in kit form, though.  It certainly had the 
>> same wing shapes as a Paramount, although with some significant 
>> differences - the front wheels were spatted but not the rears, and it had 
>> enormous double bumpers - almost bull bars - fore and aft.  General 
>> appearance was of a rather ungainly cross between a Jowett Jupiter and a 
>> Karmann Ghia.
>>
>> I should think it's quite well known, as it appeared to be in concours 
>> order.
>
> It's a Frazer Nash 319 Cabriolet
> -- 
> Pete M - OMF#9
>

Do you have any links to a photo?  The only pix I could find on Google are 
not remotely similar.  The nearest I have come up with are the Healey of 
about 1955 - on steroids!  Or did you search on the numberplate?

Geoff MacK
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:36:45 -0000   author:   Geoff Mackenzie

Re: Car ID   
Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
> 
> "Pete M"  wrote in message 
> news:hcp3j4$8kb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
>>> Is it possible to identfy a car by its registration number?  I've 
>>> tried Google and various registration sites but no luck.  The car in 
>>> question is WMC 180.
>>>
>>> The reaon I ask is that I followed this car yesterday in Horley, and 
>>> I am intrigued to know what it was.  My best guess is a Paramount, a 
>>> mid-fifties 1172 Ford Special - so it may be registered as a Ford, 
>>> although Paramount were certainly listed as a manufacturer in 1954.  
>>> I don't think they were supplied in kit form, though.  It certainly 
>>> had the same wing shapes as a Paramount, although with some 
>>> significant differences - the front wheels were spatted but not the 
>>> rears, and it had enormous double bumpers - almost bull bars - fore 
>>> and aft.  General appearance was of a rather ungainly cross between a 
>>> Jowett Jupiter and a Karmann Ghia.
>>>
>>> I should think it's quite well known, as it appeared to be in 
>>> concours order.

> Do you have any links to a photo?  The only pix I could find on Google 
> are not remotely similar.  The nearest I have come up with are the 
> Healey of about 1955 - on steroids!  Or did you search on the numberplate?

Searched on the number plate.

Was it something like this?

http://leitchmotorsport.com/nzraid/images/arthur2.jpg

-- 
Pete M - OMF#9

'62 Rover P4 100
'61 Rover P5 3 litre
'78 Escort 1300 Sport
'99 Audi A6 V6 Quattro Avant


"It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your 
Alfa experience be different from everyone else's.
Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks."
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:40:27 +0000   author:   Pete M

Re: Car ID   
"Pete M"  wrote in message 
news:hcpte1$cep$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
>>
>> "Pete M"  wrote in message 
>> news:hcp3j4$8kb$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to identfy a car by its registration number?  I've tried 
>>>> Google and various registration sites but no luck.  The car in question 
>>>> is WMC 180.
>>>>
>>>> The reaon I ask is that I followed this car yesterday in Horley, and I 
>>>> am intrigued to know what it was.  My best guess is a Paramount, a 
>>>> mid-fifties 1172 Ford Special - so it may be registered as a Ford, 
>>>> although Paramount were certainly listed as a manufacturer in 1954.  I 
>>>> don't think they were supplied in kit form, though.  It certainly had 
>>>> the same wing shapes as a Paramount, although with some significant 
>>>> differences - the front wheels were spatted but not the rears, and it 
>>>> had enormous double bumpers - almost bull bars - fore and aft.  General 
>>>> appearance was of a rather ungainly cross between a Jowett Jupiter and 
>>>> a Karmann Ghia.
>>>>
>>>> I should think it's quite well known, as it appeared to be in concours 
>>>> order.
>
>> Do you have any links to a photo?  The only pix I could find on Google 
>> are not remotely similar.  The nearest I have come up with are the Healey 
>> of about 1955 - on steroids!  Or did you search on the numberplate?
>
> Searched on the number plate.
>
> Was it something like this?
>
> http://leitchmotorsport.com/nzraid/images/arthur2.jpg
>
> -- 
> Pete M - OMF#9
>

No, not at all!  The thing I saw had a split screen, far more bulbous wings, 
and bluntly was plug-ugly.  I'm sure the giveaway was the spatted front 
wheels with open rears;  can't imagine many designers thought this a good 
idea.

Geoff MacK
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:53:10 -0000   author:   Geoff Mackenzie

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