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date: 23 Oct 2009 07:31:33 GMT,    group: uk.rec.cars.classic        back       
Number Plates - which type?   
I have a 1965 Jaguar S type - what type of number plate would have been
fitted to it originally?

Would it have had pressed aluminium or would a higher end car of that era
more likely had riveted letters, silver or white on black?

I always associated pressed aluminium with cheap cars and commercial
vehicles.

Whilst I'm on the subject I always think black number plates look very
odd on cars of the late sixties and early 70s.

Most bikes and cars post '68 had yellow and white.  Certainly the ones I
had did (they weren't new when I got them!) - which makes the black look
out of place, more so on '70-'72

Contemporary film clips show the newer cars with reflective plates:

Villain (great film)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtscBjNxHGw

Sweeny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFeJAe4f9g0

Even if it doesn't answer the number plate question it shows the bad guys
had S types!

-- 
Simon
date: 23 Oct 2009 07:31:33 GMT   author:   sweller

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
I still have the original plates for my 1948 Vauxhall, plastic letter are 
looking a bit sad and I think the last guy took them off with a crowbar but 
they are still serviceable.
"Halmyre" <no.spam@this.address> wrote in message 
news:MPG.254bebdecc7fe76398a078@news.tesco.net...
> In article ,
> chrisB@RILEYELFb0lus.com says...
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:30:51 +0100, "Geoff Mackenzie"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >The Mk 2 I had about that time had pressed aluminium.  The screw-on 
>> >white
>> >numbers always seemed to distort and crack after a year or so.
>> >
>>
>> My 1961 A40 Farina was still wearing its original plates with white
>> plastic letters (and dealer tag!) when I sold it three years ago. Aside
>> from some discolouration, the letters were in perfect condition. At the
>> time, the dealer was still in business too, though they have since
>> closed down.
>>
>
> No wonder they closed down if you hang on to your cars that long.
>
> -- 
> Halmyre
>
> This is the most powerful sigfile in the world and will probably blow your
> head clean off.
date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:06:25 +0100   author:   Charles Hamilton

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:30:51 +0100, "Geoff Mackenzie"
 wrote:


>
>The Mk 2 I had about that time had pressed aluminium.  The screw-on white 
>numbers always seemed to distort and crack after a year or so.
>

My 1961 A40 Farina was still wearing its original plates with white
plastic letters (and dealer tag!) when I sold it three years ago. Aside
from some discolouration, the letters were in perfect condition. At the
time, the dealer was still in business too, though they have since
closed down.
-- 
Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by plain text email)     
------1967 Riley Elf------1978 Mini 1000------1971 Mini Clubman------
--1972 Mini Clubman estate--1979 Ford Capri--1984 VW Type 25 camper--
date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:30:27 +0100   author:   Chris Bolus

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
In article , 
chrisB@RILEYELFb0lus.com says...
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:30:51 +0100, "Geoff Mackenzie"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> >The Mk 2 I had about that time had pressed aluminium.  The screw-on white 
> >numbers always seemed to distort and crack after a year or so.
> >
> 
> My 1961 A40 Farina was still wearing its original plates with white
> plastic letters (and dealer tag!) when I sold it three years ago. Aside
> from some discolouration, the letters were in perfect condition. At the
> time, the dealer was still in business too, though they have since
> closed down.
> 

No wonder they closed down if you hang on to your cars that long.

-- 
Halmyre

This is the most powerful sigfile in the world and will probably blow your 
head clean off.
date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:36:14 +0100   author:   Halmyre ess

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:36:14 +0100, Halmyre <no.spam@this.address>
wrote:

>In article , 
>chrisB@RILEYELFb0lus.com says...
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:30:51 +0100, "Geoff Mackenzie"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> >The Mk 2 I had about that time had pressed aluminium.  The screw-on white 
>> >numbers always seemed to distort and crack after a year or so.
>> >
>> 
>> My 1961 A40 Farina was still wearing its original plates with white
>> plastic letters (and dealer tag!) when I sold it three years ago. Aside
>> from some discolouration, the letters were in perfect condition. At the
>> time, the dealer was still in business too, though they have since
>> closed down.
>> 
>
>No wonder they closed down if you hang on to your cars that long.

Now that's just a stupid response - I'm the same age as that car.

I bought my Austin as a barn find, restored it to show condition and in
the process realised who the main dealer was. Until then I had no idea
that they were ever an Austin dealer, as I'd known them first as Toyota
agents, then Subaru/Proton/Isuzu. I'm pretty sure it was a retirement
shutdown (family firm) rather than going bust.
-- 
Regards,  Chris    (Please take out my car to reply by plain text email)     
------1967 Riley Elf------1978 Mini 1000------1971 Mini Clubman------
--1972 Mini Clubman estate--1979 Ford Capri--1984 VW Type 25 camper--
date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:41:04 +0000   author:   Chris Bolus

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:23 +0000, Pete M
 wrote:

>I've just had a googlefest and can't find when white / yellow plates 
>were first introduced - as opposed to being made compulsory, but I'd 
>always go for black and silver.

1966/67 or thereabouts, I remember having a set made for my Austin Champ and
being asked if I wanted the new plates or not.

Peter
--
Peter A Forbes
Prepair Ltd, Rushden, UK
peterforbes@prepair.co.uk
http://www.prepair.co.uk
http://www.prepair.eu
date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:27:18 +0000   author:   Peter A Forbes

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
Declaration "V796" from the DVLA states that "All vehicles registered after 
1.1.1973 must be fitted with reflective plates"
"Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
news:73lge5l1e577p1ouad2of1raras1iqni8c@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:23 +0000, Pete M
>  wrote:
>
>>I've just had a googlefest and can't find when white / yellow plates
>>were first introduced - as opposed to being made compulsory, but I'd
>>always go for black and silver.
>
> 1966/67 or thereabouts, I remember having a set made for my Austin Champ 
> and
> being asked if I wanted the new plates or not.
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter A Forbes
> Prepair Ltd, Rushden, UK
> peterforbes@prepair.co.uk
> http://www.prepair.co.uk
> http://www.prepair.eu
date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:50:31 -0000   author:   Charles Hamilton

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
Charles Hamilton wrote:

> Declaration "V796" from the DVLA states that "All vehicles registered
> after 1.1.1973 must be fitted with reflective plates"

In the context of this thread - which is:  What type of construction of
numberplate (riveted or pressed, silver or white letters) should a 1965
Jaguar have or when were yellow/white plates first available - WTF has
declaration V796 got to do with anything?

-- 
Simon
date: 1 Nov 2009 08:57:25 GMT   author:   sweller

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
In article ,
   sweller  wrote:
> > Declaration "V796" from the DVLA states that "All vehicles registered
> > after 1.1.1973 must be fitted with reflective plates"

> In the context of this thread - which is:  What type of construction of
> numberplate (riveted or pressed, silver or white letters) should a 1965
> Jaguar have or when were yellow/white plates first available - WTF has
> declaration V796 got to do with anything?

Read his post again. It was answering a question - so helpful, unlike
yours.

-- 
*The longest recorded flightof a chicken is thirteen seconds *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:19:12 +0000 (GMT)   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> > > Declaration "V796" from the DVLA states that "All vehicles
> > > registered after 1.1.1973 must be fitted with reflective plates"
> 
> > In the context of this thread - which is:  What type of construction
> > of numberplate (riveted or pressed, silver or white letters) should a
> > 1965 Jaguar have or when were yellow/white plates first available -
> > WTF has declaration V796 got to do with anything?
> 
> Read his post again. It was answering a question - so helpful, unlike
> yours.

Ok - where was the question he answered?

-- 
Simon
date: 1 Nov 2009 11:24:35 GMT   author:   sweller

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
In article ,
   sweller  wrote:
> > Read his post again. It was answering a question - so helpful, unlike
> > yours.

> Ok - where was the question he answered?

Perhaps you need to learn to read?

-- 
*When the going gets tough, use duct tape

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:15:40 +0000 (GMT)   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> > > Read his post again. It was answering a question - so helpful,
> > > unlike yours.
> 
> > Ok - where was the question he answered?
> 
> Perhaps you need to learn to read?

Still at a loss to see the relevance of V796 in this context.

-- 
Simon
date: 1 Nov 2009 14:57:19 GMT   author:   sweller

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
It's a reply to Peter Forbes' query on the date of compulsory fitting of 
reflective plates. It's a part of the thread that You started on number 
plates. He diversified from the main theme which is what I thought threads 
invariably did, promote discussion on a theme!
"sweller"  wrote in message 
news:xn0gh4y7aeml37000@news.individual.net...
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
>> > > Read his post again. It was answering a question - so helpful,
>> > > unlike yours.
>>
>> > Ok - where was the question he answered?
>>
>> Perhaps you need to learn to read?
>
> Still at a loss to see the relevance of V796 in this context.
>
> -- 
> Simon
date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:58:41 -0000   author:   Charles Hamilton

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:58:41 -0000, "Charles Hamilton" 
wrote:

>It's a reply to Peter Forbes' query on the date of compulsory fitting of 
>reflective plates. It's a part of the thread that You started on number 
>plates. He diversified from the main theme which is what I thought threads 
>invariably did, promote discussion on a theme!

I was actually answering 'another' query:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:23 +0000, Pete M
 wrote:

>I've just had a googlefest and can't find when white / yellow plates 
>were first introduced - as opposed to being made compulsory, but I'd 
>always go for black and silver.

1966/67 or thereabouts, I remember having a set made for my Austin Champ and
being asked if I wanted the new plates or not.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Peter
Peter
--
Peter A Forbes
Prepair Ltd, Rushden, UK
peterforbes@prepair.co.uk
http://www.prepair.co.uk
http://www.prepair.eu
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:42:50 +0000   author:   Peter A Forbes

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
Yes, Just noticed that it was Pete M who originally wondered about the date 
of compulsory fitment of reflectives.
"Peter A Forbes"  wrote in message 
news:vaate5hl7ce5g0lpjq0c2feh8estdeoemq@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:58:41 -0000, "Charles Hamilton" 
> 
> wrote:
>
>>It's a reply to Peter Forbes' query on the date of compulsory fitting of
>>reflective plates. It's a part of the thread that You started on number
>>plates. He diversified from the main theme which is what I thought threads
>>invariably did, promote discussion on a theme!
>
> I was actually answering 'another' query:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:23 +0000, Pete M
>  wrote:
>
>>I've just had a googlefest and can't find when white / yellow plates
>>were first introduced - as opposed to being made compulsory, but I'd
>>always go for black and silver.
>
> 1966/67 or thereabouts, I remember having a set made for my Austin Champ 
> and
> being asked if I wanted the new plates or not.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Peter
> Peter
> --
> Peter A Forbes
> Prepair Ltd, Rushden, UK
> peterforbes@prepair.co.uk
> http://www.prepair.co.uk
> http://www.prepair.eu
date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:45:31 -0000   author:   Charles Hamilton

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
Charles Hamilton wrote:
> Yes, Just noticed that it was Pete M who originally wondered about the 
> date of compulsory fitment of reflectives.

>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:23 +0000, Pete M
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> I've just had a googlefest and can't find when white / yellow plates
>>> were first introduced - as opposed to being made compulsory, but I'd
>>> always go for black and silver.
>>
>> 1966/67 or thereabouts, I remember having a set made for my Austin 
>> Champ and
>> being asked if I wanted the new plates or not.

 > Yes, Just noticed that it was Pete M who originally wondered about the
 > date of compulsory fitment of reflectives.

Um, I actually wondered about when they first appeared, rather than when 
they were made compulsory ;-).

-- 
Pete M - OMF#9

'62 Rover P4 100
'61 Rover P5 3 litre
'78 Escort 1300 Sport
'99 Audi A6 V6 Quattro Avant


"It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your 
Alfa experience be different from everyone else's.
Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks."
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:10:42 +0000   author:   Pete M

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
Pete M wrote:

> > Yes, Just noticed that it was Pete M who originally wondered about the
> > date of compulsory fitment of reflectives.
> 
> Um, I actually wondered about when they first appeared, rather than
> when they were made compulsory ;-).

*ding*

-- 
Simon
date: 3 Nov 2009 07:02:02 GMT   author:   sweller

Re: Number Plates - which type?   
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweller"
 saying something like:

>In the context of this thread - which is:  What type of construction of
>numberplate (riveted or pressed, silver or white letters) should a 1965
>Jaguar have

Most definitely separate whit characters on a black plate for '65.
Pressed plates were cheap shit and only found on chavvy cars.
date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:02:09 +0000   author:   Grimly Curmudgeon

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