Just acquired a '79 VW Type 2 Westy Berlin from Ireland.
But its newly imported in to Ireland from the USA, all import taxes and
duties paid....but not registered.

How are the DVLA and HM Customs likely to handle this.

Technically its being imported from an EU country, so *shouldn't* require
further import duties or taxes...but has never been registered in an EU
country.

Oddly (sarcasm!) I can't find anything on the DVLA website to cover this 
particular
scenario.

Anyone had experience of importing a vehicle to the UK under similar
circumstances?

Can you give me an idiots guide of what to do, how to do it, and what order
to do it in, to get it registered and road legal in the UK.

TIA

caroline ("caroline" ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

> Technically its being imported from an EU country, so *shouldn't*
> require further import duties or taxes...but has never been registered
> in an EU country.
> 
> Oddly (sarcasm!) I can't find anything on the DVLA website to cover this
> particular scenario.

You've presumably got the Irish duty payment receipt? Just submit that to 
DVLA with the rest of the paperwork.

"Adrian" wrote
> caroline gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>
>> Technically its being imported from an EU country, so *shouldn't*
>> require further import duties or taxes...but has never been registered
>> in an EU country.
>>
>> Oddly (sarcasm!) I can't find anything on the DVLA website to cover this
>> particular scenario.
>
> You've presumably got the Irish duty payment receipt? Just submit that to
> DVLA with the rest of the paperwork.

Thanks for your swift reply Adrian

And fingers crossed that should suffice?

One more Q, what's the story with driving it home (southern England) from 
the ferry port (most probably Fishguard) on its US plates?
Is it possible, feasible?

caroline ("caroline" ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>> You've presumably got the Irish duty payment receipt? Just submit that
>> to DVLA with the rest of the paperwork.

> Thanks for your swift reply Adrian
> 
> And fingers crossed that should suffice?

Gawd knows... I'm nine months into getting a V5C changed from "2cv" to 
"2cv 4x4" with no end in sight. Only two inspections so far...

> One more Q, what's the story with driving it home (southern England)
> from the ferry port (most probably Fishguard) on its US plates? Is it
> possible, feasible?

Legally? No way.

Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate
Adrian, managed to produce the following words
of wisdom
> caroline ("caroline" ) gurgled happily,
> sounding much like they were saying:
>
>>> You've presumably got the Irish duty payment receipt? Just submit
>>> that to DVLA with the rest of the paperwork.
>
>> Thanks for your swift reply Adrian
>>
>> And fingers crossed that should suffice?
>
> Gawd knows... I'm nine months into getting a V5C changed from "2cv" to
> "2cv 4x4" with no end in sight. Only two inspections so far...
>
>> One more Q, what's the story with driving it home (southern England)
>> from the ferry port (most probably Fishguard) on its US plates? Is it
>> possible, feasible?
>
> Legally? No way.

Unless you can find some trade plates.

All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra registered in 
Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway :-)

-- 
Pete M -  OMF#9
"Save your breath for cooling your porridge!
W&P Range Rover V8 Turbo
Scorpio Ultima 24v

On 13 Jan, 20:23, Adrian  wrote:
> caroline ("caroline" ) gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:

> > One more Q, what's the story with driving it home (southern England)
> > from the ferry port (most probably Fishguard) on its US plates? Is it
> > possible, feasible?
>
> Legally? No way.

As I recall - I saw this when searching the DVLA website for something
else, but can't find it again, dammit - you can drive on foreign
plates for six(?) months after import. When I bought my DS it was
happily and legally going around with South African plates although it
also had, by then, a british registration number.

Would it not just be easier for the OP to register it in Ireland?

Ian

Ian (Ian ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> > One more Q, what's the story with driving it home (southern England)
>> > from the ferry port (most probably Fishguard) on its US plates? Is it
>> > possible, feasible?

>> Legally? No way.

> As I recall - I saw this when searching the DVLA website for something
> else, but can't find it again, dammit - you can drive on foreign plates
> for six(?) months after import.

Indeed. IF it's legal in the country it's registered in - which means in 
your name at your address, taxed, insured and tested according to the 
requirements of that country.

> Would it not just be easier for the OP to register it in Ireland?

If they've got an Irish address...

"Adrian"
> Ian  gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:

>> Would it not just be easier for the OP to register it in Ireland?
>
> If they've got an Irish address...

Yup I do have an Irish address.  But because the van isn't over 30 year of 
age (its only 29) it would attract VRT (Vehicle Registration Tax - an Irish 
novelty)., which would make this a very expensive way around.
If I was doing this in a year's time the van would be VRT exempt and it 
would be a no-brainer.

caroline wrote:
> "Adrian"
>> Ian  gurgled happily, sounding much like
>> they were saying:
> 
>>> Would it not just be easier for the OP to register it in Ireland?
>> If they've got an Irish address...
> 
> Yup I do have an Irish address.  But because the van isn't over 30 year of 
> age (its only 29) it would attract VRT (Vehicle Registration Tax - an Irish 
> novelty)., which would make this a very expensive way around.
> If I was doing this in a year's time the van would be VRT exempt and it 
> would be a no-brainer. 

Is it worth finding out the exact date of manufacture to see how much of 
that year you'd need to wait? As its a camper, there was probably a 
delay between the base vehicle's construction and the camper conversion. 
  I'd be surprised if it took them a year, but you never know.

Willy Eckerslyke (Willy Eckerslyke ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

>> Yup I do have an Irish address.  But because the van isn't over 30 year
>> of age (its only 29) it would attract VRT (Vehicle Registration Tax -
>> an Irish novelty)., which would make this a very expensive way around.
>> If I was doing this in a year's time the van would be VRT exempt and it
>> would be a no-brainer.

> Is it worth finding out the exact date of manufacture to see how much of
> that year you'd need to wait? As its a camper, there was probably a
> delay between the base vehicle's construction and the camper conversion.
>   I'd be surprised if it took them a year, but you never know.

It's likely to be based on first-reg date, though. The UK's 1/1/73 
historic vehicle is a rare exception, based on build date rather than 
first-reg.

On 14 Jan, 09:20, Adrian  wrote:
> Ian (Ian ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:

> > As I recall - I saw this when searching the DVLA website for something
> > else, but can't find it again, dammit - you can drive on foreign plates
> > for six(?) months after import.
>
> Indeed. IF it's legal in the country it's registered in - which means in
> your name at your address, taxed, insured and tested according to the
> requirements of that country.

When I got the DS it was off the SA register and on the UK one. V5C,
MOT, insurance, tax disc, the lot. All showing the UK registration
number, but it was still OK for me to show the SA plate for a bit.
Presumably because The System knew which UK registration corresponded
to it.

> > Would it not just be easier for the OP to register it in Ireland?
>
> If they've got an Irish address...

Or have Irish friends. Why didn;t the person who imported it register
it?

Ian

Pete M wrote:

> Unless you can find some trade plates.
> 
> All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra registered in 
> Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway :-)

Tatra?

Do let me know when you get bored of that ;)

RichardK (wants one. Doesn't matter if it's a 601 or 711 or whatever).

"Ian" wrote

> Why didn;t the person who imported it register
> it?
>
> Ian

The bus was imported as a competition prize.
As the competition was open to Irish and UK members, there was no point 
registering it until the prize winner was drawn.

On 14 Jan, 15:29, "caroline"  wrote:
> "Ian" wrote
>
> > Why didn;t the person who imported it register
> > it?

> The bus was imported as a competition prize.
> As the competition was open to Irish and UK members, there was no point
> registering it until the prize winner was drawn.

Ah. I wonder if it would be any easier to register it in NI?

Ian

Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Richard
Kilpatrick, managed to produce the following
words of wisdom
> Pete M wrote:
>
>> Unless you can find some trade plates.
>>
>> All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra
>> registered in Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway :-)
>
> Tatra?
>
> Do let me know when you get bored of that ;)

It's an 805 :-D


-- 
Pete M -  OMF#9
"Save your breath for cooling your porridge!
W&P Range Rover V8 Turbo
Scorpio Ultima 24v

Pete M ("Pete M" ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

>>> All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra
>>> registered in Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway :-)

>> Tatra?
>>
>> Do let me know when you get bored of that ;)

> It's an 805 :-D

If you don't stop taunting me by mentioning it, you WILL be meeting 
killfile, y'bastard.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:12:22 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
 wrote:

>Pete M ("Pete M" ) gurgled happily,
>sounding much like they were saying:
>
>>>> All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra
>>>> registered in Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway :-)
>
>>> Tatra?
>>>
>>> Do let me know when you get bored of that ;)
>
>> It's an 805 :-D
>
>If you don't stop taunting me by mentioning it, you WILL be meeting 
>killfile, y'bastard.

Tempted by an ancient, huge, gas-guzzling, unreliable money pit?
You poor simpleton...

<Looks through window at SM>
<sobs quietly>

-- 

Ian D

Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Ian
Dalziel, managed to produce the following words
of wisdom
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:12:22 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
>  wrote:
>
>> Pete M ("Pete M" ) gurgled
>> happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>>
>>>>> All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra
>>>>> registered in Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway
>>>>> :-)
>>
>>>> Tatra?
>>>>
>>>> Do let me know when you get bored of that ;)
>>
>>> It's an 805 :-D
>>
>> If you don't stop taunting me by mentioning it, you WILL be meeting
>> killfile, y'bastard.
>
> Tempted by an ancient, huge, gas-guzzling, unreliable money pit?
> You poor simpleton...
>
> <Looks through window at SM>
> <sobs quietly>

IT could be worse... you could own my Rangie.

-- 
Pete M -  OMF#9
"Save your breath for cooling your porridge!
W&P Range Rover V8 Turbo
Scorpio Ultima 24v

Pete M wrote:
> Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Richard
> Kilpatrick, managed to produce the following
> words of wisdom
>> Pete M wrote:
>>
>>> Unless you can find some trade plates.
>>>
>>> All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra
>>> registered in Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway :-)
>> Tatra?
>>
>> Do let me know when you get bored of that ;)
> 
> It's an 805 :-D

*speechless*

*envy*

RichardK

Adrian wrote:
> Pete M ("Pete M" ) gurgled happily,
> sounding much like they were saying:
> 
>>>> All this malarky is one of the reasons I'm keeping the Tatra
>>>> registered in Czech, it'll be based there in a year or so anyway :-)
> 
>>> Tatra?
>>>
>>> Do let me know when you get bored of that ;)
> 
>> It's an 805 :-D
> 
> If you don't stop taunting me by mentioning it, you WILL be meeting 
> killfile, y'bastard.

Misdirecting: Adrian! Siani got a 2CV Charleston and it caught fire - 
don't suppose you have any engine shrouds or know where to get them 
moderately-priced, do you? Or a complete engine with shrouds intact? She 
wants to fix or sell it, but it's not going for an MOT until I fix the 
manifold gasket, and I'm not doing that until I have "not burned" shrouds...

RichardK (also - I'm considering a big Citroen again ;) )

Richard Kilpatrick (Richard Kilpatrick ) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

> Misdirecting: Adrian! Siani got a 2CV Charleston and it caught fire -

Ooops.

> don't suppose you have any engine shrouds or know where to get them
> moderately-priced, do you? Or a complete engine with shrouds intact? She
> wants to fix or sell it, but it's not going for an MOT until I fix the
> manifold gasket, and I'm not doing that until I have "not burned"
> shrouds...

Drop me an email. I'm sure we can find some localish.

> RichardK (also - I'm considering a big Citroen again ;) )

Good man. I've still got some bits of Binky, y'know... No whole XMs, 
though - I sold mine.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:01:55 +0000, Richard Kilpatrick
 wrote:

>RichardK (also - I'm considering a big Citroen again ;) )

<Looks out of window again>
Richard, ...

-- 

Ian D

Ian Dalziel wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:01:55 +0000, Richard Kilpatrick
>  wrote:
> 
>> RichardK (also - I'm considering a big Citroen again ;) )
> 
> <Looks out of window again>
> Richard, ...

This one has a heads-up display, automatic gearbox, 2.7HDi engine and 
TGV seats ;)

And I've heard about SMs. They need a BD adding in from of the name...

RichardK