Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)

http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html

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Rob wrote:
> 
> Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)
> 
> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html

My uninformed guess would be Renault, with that coal-skuttle bonnet.

"Rob"  wrote in message 
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> Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)
>
> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>
> r
>

Renault, possibly Edwardian, but not an expert so wouldn't like to be more 
precise.

Geoff MacK

Rob (Rob ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)
> 
> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html

Third vote for a Renault of some type, I'd hazard a guess at 19teens. The 
bonnet & radiator is a dead giveaway as to the marque.

Adrian wrote:
> Rob (Rob ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
> 
>> Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)
>>
>> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
> 
> Third vote for a Renault of some type, I'd hazard a guess at 19teens. The 
> bonnet & radiator is a dead giveaway as to the marque.

Aye, I've just been doing a web trawl without much success. The 
mudguards look wrong, but were probably a modification.
Mind you, Arrol-Johnstons had similar looking fronts and similarly hefty 
mudguards...

"Adrian"  wrote in message 
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> Rob (Rob ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
>> Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)
>>
>> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>
> Third vote for a Renault of some type, I'd hazard a guess at 19teens. The
> bonnet & radiator is a dead giveaway as to the marque.

IIRC it would have had a single headlamp.  Ideal for the bloke with the hat.

GMacK

"Willy Eckerslyke"  wrote in message 
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> Adrian wrote:
>> Rob (Rob ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
>> they were saying:
>>
>>> Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)
>>>
>>> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>>
>> Third vote for a Renault of some type, I'd hazard a guess at 19teens. The 
>> bonnet & radiator is a dead giveaway as to the marque.
>
> Aye, I've just been doing a web trawl without much success. The mudguards 
> look wrong, but were probably a modification.
> Mind you, Arrol-Johnstons had similar looking fronts and similarly hefty 
> mudguards...

While several makers used this layout at the beginning of the 1900's, one 
would normally bet on Renault because they made more cars this way than just 
about everyone else put together and they did it for longer.  But in this 
case I agree with Willy because of the actual positioning of the radiator. 
Renault and most others put it right up against the dashboard, whereas 
Arrol-Johnston had a vestigial scuttle in between the two, like the car in 
the photo.

Ron Robinson

R.N. Robinson wrote:
> "Willy Eckerslyke"  wrote in message 
> news:5raqqtF1382dgU1@mid.individual.net...
> 
>>Adrian wrote:
>>
>>>Rob (Rob ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
>>>they were saying:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Has someone any idea what car this is please. Some may have owned one :)
>>>>
>>>>http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>>>
>>>Third vote for a Renault of some type, I'd hazard a guess at 19teens. The 
>>>bonnet & radiator is a dead giveaway as to the marque.
>>
>>Aye, I've just been doing a web trawl without much success. The mudguards 
>>look wrong, but were probably a modification.
>>Mind you, Arrol-Johnstons had similar looking fronts and similarly hefty 
>>mudguards...
> 
> 
> While several makers used this layout at the beginning of the 1900's, one 
> would normally bet on Renault because they made more cars this way than just 
> about everyone else put together and they did it for longer.  But in this 
> case I agree with Willy because of the actual positioning of the radiator. 
> Renault and most others put it right up against the dashboard, whereas 
> Arrol-Johnston had a vestigial scuttle in between the two, like the car in 
> the photo.
> 
> Ron Robinson 
> 
> 

Having a clue, I did an image search in google and found this.

www.interesting-cars.com/aboutus.html

This has a picture of the Arrol - Johnston 1913  which is looking very 
similar. It does have that space between the radiator and the screen. 
Although the front guards look as though they have been cut short.

Rm

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:08:02 +0000, Willy Eckerslyke
 wrote:

>Mind you, Arrol-Johnstons had similar looking fronts and similarly hefty 
>mudguards...

I'd agree with the Arrol-Johnston.  They had a rectangular header tank
to the radiator, unlike Renault's arched style.

Andy Dingley wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:08:02 +0000, Willy Eckerslyke
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>Mind you, Arrol-Johnstons had similar looking fronts and similarly hefty 
>>mudguards...
> 
> 
> I'd agree with the Arrol-Johnston.  They had a rectangular header tank
> to the radiator, unlike Renault's arched style.


I have also asked the - Surrey  Vintage  Vehicle  Society  www.svvs.org 
which only meets once a month.

But googling images of the Arrol-Johnson  they seem to fit.

rob

R.N. Robinson wrote:

>>>
>>>Third vote for a Renault of some type, I'd hazard a guess at 19teens. The 
>>>bonnet & radiator is a dead giveaway as to the marque.
>>
>>Aye, I've just been doing a web trawl without much success. The mudguards 
>>look wrong, but were probably a modification.
>>Mind you, Arrol-Johnstons had similar looking fronts and similarly hefty 
>>mudguards...
> 
> 
> While several makers used this layout at the beginning of the 1900's, one 
> would normally bet on Renault because they made more cars this way than just 
> about everyone else put together and they did it for longer.  But in this 
> case I agree with Willy because of the actual positioning of the radiator. 
> Renault and most others put it right up against the dashboard, whereas 
> Arrol-Johnston had a vestigial scuttle in between the two, like the car in 
> the photo.
> 
> Ron Robinson 
> 
> 

Although possibly not the exact model but this is an ad from an early 
motoring booklet publication date unknown but very early.

http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/AD-car-AJ.html

in the photo there is a hurricane lamp hanging off the front guard

The car would be dated around 1918/1922 and the owner was a sniper 
during the first world war.

rm

http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html

Placing the car up on the Surry Vintage Vehicle Society

They have come back with the suggestion that it is a 1912 Arrol-Johnson 
15.9HP

www.svvs.org/help14.shtml

Thanks to all for pointing me in the correct direction of it being a 
Arrol-Johnson.

What I had not realized was the amount of car imports into Australia in 
the early 1900's.


rob

"Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> wrote in message 
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> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>
> Placing the car up on the Surry Vintage Vehicle Society
>
> They have come back with the suggestion that it is a 1912 Arrol-Johnson 
> 15.9HP
>
> www.svvs.org/help14.shtml
>
> Thanks to all for pointing me in the correct direction of it being a 
> Arrol-Johnson.
>
> What I had not realized was the amount of car imports into Australia in 
> the early 1900's.
>
>

Well, they had to get them from somewhere. For a considerable part of the 
country the only viable alternative means of transport was the camel and 
they had been importing those as well.

Ron Robinson

On 23 Dec, 05:47, "Rob." <m...@mine.com.> wrote:
> http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>
> Placing the car up on the Surry Vintage Vehicle Society
>
> They have come back with the suggestion that it is a 1912 Arrol-Johnson
> 15.9HP
>
> www.svvs.org/help14.shtml
>
> Thanks to all for pointing me in the correct direction of it being a
> Arrol-Johnson.

The Glasgow Transport Museum has an excellent - probably the
definitive - collection of early Scottish cars. It might be worth
contacting them for further information.

Ian

R.N. Robinson wrote:
> "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> wrote in message 
> news:476df679$1_9@news.peopletelecom.com.au...
> 
>>http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>>
>>Placing the car up on the Surry Vintage Vehicle Society
>>
>>They have come back with the suggestion that it is a 1912 Arrol-Johnson 
>>15.9HP
>>
>>www.svvs.org/help14.shtml
>>
>>Thanks to all for pointing me in the correct direction of it being a 
>>Arrol-Johnson.
>>
>>What I had not realized was the amount of car imports into Australia in 
>>the early 1900's.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Well, they had to get them from somewhere. For a considerable part of the 
> country the only viable alternative means of transport was the camel and 
> they had been importing those as well.
> 
> Ron Robinson 
> 
> 

Interesting cemetery at Bourke NSW, there are quite a few camel drivers 
buried there - Afghans - from the early years of settlement.

"Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> wrote in message 
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> R.N. Robinson wrote:
>> "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> wrote in message 
>> news:476df679$1_9@news.peopletelecom.com.au...
>>
>>>http://home.people.net.au/~petebrag/CAR/CAR-(Large).html
>>>
>>>Placing the car up on the Surry Vintage Vehicle Society
>>>
>>>They have come back with the suggestion that it is a 1912 Arrol-Johnson 
>>>15.9HP
>>>
>>>www.svvs.org/help14.shtml
>>>
>>>Thanks to all for pointing me in the correct direction of it being a 
>>>Arrol-Johnson.
>>>
>>>What I had not realized was the amount of car imports into Australia in 
>>>the early 1900's.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, they had to get them from somewhere. For a considerable part of the 
>> country the only viable alternative means of transport was the camel and 
>> they had been importing those as well.
>>
>> Ron Robinson
>
> Interesting cemetery at Bourke NSW, there are quite a few camel drivers 
> buried there - Afghans - from the early years of settlement.

The camels, on the other hand, have multiplied and there are now - 
allegedly - more wild camels in Australia than any other country on the 
planet.

Ron Robinson