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date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:15:13 -0700,    group: uk.rec.cars.classic        back       
I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??


Thanks
Sarah
date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:15:13 -0700   author:   Sarah

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
On 2 Sep, 07:15, Sarah  wrote:
> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse!

How can a gearbox sound as if it's trying to knock itself out of
reverse?

> i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

Could you rephrase those sentences in english, perhaps with meaning?

Ian
date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:04:59 -0700   author:   Ian

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
"Sarah"  wrote in message 
news:1188713713.707910.200040@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??
>
>
> Thanks
> Sarah
>

The reverse gear thing could be overdrive stuck in the engaged position.  If 
so this is bad news & likely has caused serious damage to the overdrive. 
Would not recommend buying if this is the case.  If it doesn't have 
overdrive then obviously this isn't hte cause.

What on earth is CVCarberator????? & no idea what you mean by tuning ration.
date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:05:59 +0100   author:   DougP

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
In article ,
   Sarah  wrote:
> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse! 

Very expensive fix. Means replacing the gearbox. Allow 500-1000 quid for
this job if a garage has to do it.

> i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it!

Another fault? Get pro advice. If it is just a simple adjustment why
wasn't this done before?

> Another quick question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to
> 7??

I ain't got a clue what you're talking about.

-- 
*One of us is thinking about sex... OK, it's me.

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:19:14 +0100   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
"Sarah"  wrote in message 
news:1188713713.707910.200040@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear 
> it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of

Any noise from the gearbox when in first gear, if so it's the usual 
problem of worn out layshaft bearings - a reconditioned gearbox is the 
only cure.

> Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??
>

Sorry but that's a meaningless sentence, even if it's reconstructed 
around possible typo's!
date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:23:48 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
On 2 Sep, 10:19, "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote:
> In article ,
>    Sarah  wrote:
>
> > i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> > problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> > is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> > Reverse!
>
> Very expensive fix. Means replacing the gearbox. Allow 500-1000 quid for
> this job if a garage has to do it.

Maybe not that bad. A recon box is £215 from Canley Classics, and a
halfway competent garage shouldn't take more than half a day to fit
it. Worth doing the clutch at the same time though.

OK, 500 quid-ish.

Don't buy the car!

Ian
date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 07:15:16 -0700   author:   Ian

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
Ian wrote:
> On 2 Sep, 07:15, Sarah  wrote:
>> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
>> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
>> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
>> Reverse!
> 
> How can a gearbox sound as if it's trying to knock itself out of
> reverse?
> 
It could be an idler with a chipped or broken tooth.  If so, the bits 
will be in the gearbox somewhere and could do a lot of damage.

Jim
date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:58:50 GMT   author:   Jim Warren

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
"Sarah"  wrote in message 
news:1188713713.707910.200040@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> Reverse! i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! Another quick
> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??
>
>
> Thanks
> Sarah
>

Another priceless post by Sarah.....

http://cardealerforums.com/alt-autos-toyota/t62770-my-starter-doesnt-do-crap.html
date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:52:04 +0100   author:   DougP

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
On 2 Sep, 19:58, Jim Warren  wrote:
> Ian wrote:
> > On 2 Sep, 07:15, Sarah  wrote:
> >> i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
> >> problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
> >> is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
> >> Reverse!
>
> > How can a gearbox sound as if it's trying to knock itself out of
> > reverse?
>
> It could be an idler with a chipped or broken tooth.  If so, the bits
> will be in the gearbox somewhere and could do a lot of damage.

OK, that would make a noise. I just can't imagine what a gearbox
"trying to knock itself out of reverse" sounds like.

Ian
date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:59:01 -0700   author:   Ian

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
Ian wrote:

> 
> I just can't imagine what a gearbox
> "trying to knock itself out of reverse" sounds like.
> 
> Ian
> 
Given the OP's clarity of expression (tuning ratio ???), I couldn't be 
sure either, but assumed it meant some sort of regular knocking.

It couldn't be a shredded UJ because that would make a noise in forward 
gears too.  So there are only really two sources of noise in reverse 
only.  Someone else mentioned an overdrive stuck on so that reverse 
fights against the unidirectional clutch. Which just left a problem with 
the reverse idler, so I threw that into the conversation.

I think the consensus is clear - either don't buy this car, or budget 
for a replacement gearbox if you do.

Jim
date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:20:37 GMT   author:   Jim Warren

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:15:13 -0700, Sarah 
wrote:

>i am buying a Spitfire from my boss and he says it has a slight
>problem with the reverse gear! When you are useing the reverse gear it
>is all ways sounding like it is trying to knock it self out of
>Reverse!

>i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it! 
= Zenith Stromberg.
Better be ready to replace all rubber bits.
http://www.triumphspitfire.com/carbchoices.html

>Another quick
>question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??
?? to you too. Tappet clearance in thou?
http://www.triumphspitfire.com/Tuning.html

>Thanks
>Sarah
-- 
Peter Hill
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Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:14:19 +0100   author:   Peter Hill

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
>
> >Another quick
> >question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??

20 to 8.  According to my watch.

Geoff MacK
date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:17:52 +0100   author:   Geoff Mackenzie

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Geoff
Mackenzie, managed to produce the following
words of wisdom
>>> Another quick
>>> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??
>
> 20 to 8.  According to my watch.

6 to 1 joint favourite, according to John McCrirrick.


-- 
Pete M -  OMF#9
"Save your breath for cooling your porridge!
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Golf GTi 2.0 (Mk2 - proper one)
Scorpio Ultima 24v
date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:48:08 +0100   author:   Pikey Pete

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
"Peter Hill"  wrote in message 
news:krerd3d7uo30od5cfbi063n3i23f55f3ul@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:15:13 -0700, Sarah 
> wrote:
>
<snip>
>
>>i still need to tune the CVCarberator on it!
> = Zenith Stromberg.
> Better be ready to replace all rubber bits.
> http://www.triumphspitfire.com/carbchoices.html

If so, best replace the carb with the correct one, taking the year 
from the subject line surely there should be twin SU's?
date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:19:48 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
Geoff Mackenzie wrote:

>>>Another quick
>>>question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??
> 
> 
> 20 to 8.  According to my watch.
> 
> Geoff MacK
> 
> 

Well, write that down so you won't have to ask again.

r
date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:51:21 +1000   author:   Rob

Re: I have a 1970 or 60s Model Spitfire   
"Pikey Pete"  wrote in message 
news:fbltvo$mah$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Accompanied by the sound of a chisel on slate Geoff
> Mackenzie, managed to produce the following
> words of wisdom
>>>> Another quick
>>>> question whats the tuneing ratio for it 1o to 5 or 12 to 7??
>>
>> 20 to 8.  According to my watch.
>
> 6 to 1 joint favourite, according to John McCrirrick.
>
>

One of Damon Runyon's characters reckoned that life in general was 6 to 5 
against,  so if given an even chance he always took it.

Ron Robinson
date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:48:19 +0100   author:   R.N. Robinson

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