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date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:20:37 +0100,    group: uk.rec.cars.4x4        back       
Petrol/Visa scam   
Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
petrol stations.
I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number is 
required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.

Trefor
date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:20:37 +0100   author:   Trefor

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1hwz9db.1pxlwuno2uis2N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:
>
>> -- 
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> And then the entire message in the signature.
>
> "banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
> the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.
>
> If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.

no
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 14:52:46 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
There are a surprising number of other places that do not need the PIN, 
I have recently used them at airports and Eurotunnel car parks.
date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:14:47 +0100   author:   John Moppett

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
"Trefor"  wrote in message 
news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at some 
> petrol stations.
> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>
> Trefor
>

I use cash.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:54:53 +0100   author:   RT

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
-- 
X-No-Archive: yes

"RT"  wrote in message 
news:f0feu4$1l79$1@energise.enta.net...
>
> "Trefor"  wrote in message 
> news:V66dnXiKsZCLVLTbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@brightview.com...
>> Regarding the recent News item on credit/debit cards being skimmed at 
>> some petrol stations.
>> I always (where possible) use Tesco "pay at pump" for petrol.
>> I have previously thought it wasn't particularly secure as no PIN number 
>> is required, but now, it turns out this is a distinct advantage.
>> This type of payment may, of course be available at other petrol outlets.
>>
>> Trefor
>>
>
> I use cash.
>

our local asda do the pay at the pump,
only thing is that a thief of your card can fill up a stolen car with petrol 
and leave you with the bill.
if the have cloned your card then they can use that in stead of your 
original card.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:27:41 GMT   author:   banjo - _

Re: Petrol/Visa scam   
" banjo" <- deeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk_> wrote:

> -- 
> X-No-Archive: yes

And then the entire message in the signature.

"banjo" old chap, could you do me a favour? Take your computer back to
the place where you bought it, hand it in and ask for your money back.

If the salesman asks why, tell him you are too stupid to own a computer.
date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:24:35 +0100   author:   %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth)