road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.
Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara, I get nearly 
40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)
However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90 miles 
from the nearest railway and decent hospital. Our roads are pot-holes and 
narrow/twisty.
I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human rights 
rules?

David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying : 

> road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.

For band G. Not for 4x4s. The VED on my own 4x4 will rise a fiver over 
each of the next three years, from the current £110/yr.

> Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara

Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

> I get nearly 40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)

> However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90
> miles from the nearest railway and decent hospital. 

I'd suggest that that's irrelevant - If you do so few miles annually, 
you obviously don't go there much.

<shrug> If it's an issue, move house. Or buy a more economical vehicle.

> Our roads are pot-holes and narrow/twisty.

You poor love. What's that got to do with the price of fish?

> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
> rights rules? 

Don't be so fucking pathetic.

> David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much

>> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
>> rights rules?
>
> Don't be so fucking pathetic.

I agree, human rights, right to privacy and you loose all sympathy

Check which group your car is in before slagging off Stalin

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

Also bear in mind that the bands system is only implemented for
vehicles registered on or after 1st March 2001.  Band G is only
applicable to vehicles registered on or after 23rd March 2006.

There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
with the new budget yet.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
two rates.  A shame really as my audi would cost me £140 instead of
£180 if it was treated under post-March 2001 rules.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Ian Rawlings (news06@tarcus.org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 

> There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
> with the new budget yet.
> 
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle
> /DG_10012524 

This one is -
http://www.bytestart.co.uk/content/taxlegal/9_15/vehicle-excise-duty-rates-
2007-8.shtml

http://snipurl.com/1dm8t

> It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
> registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
> two rates.

*ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

Yes, I know they're going up (although I hadn't really bothered to
check by how much), I meant there are still only two rates for cars
prior to those dates, one for below a certain threshold, another for
on or above the threshold.

It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

BTW I think it's going up three times by a fiver for the next *2*
years, once with pretty much immediate effect, then again in about a
year, and once more in a further year.  Doesn't make much difference
either way.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 21/03/2007 19:16:27, Ian Rawlings wrote:

> It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
> than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

Well my Volvo V70 Estate will, at 234 g/km it falls into the "Gas Guzzler"
band.

Even though it averages 32 mpg.

At least my ancient 4.0 litre V8 Range Rover stays in the £180 band so that
evens it out a little.

-- 
Regards
Barry

road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.
Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara, I get nearly 
40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)
However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90 miles 
from the nearest railway and decent hospital. Our roads are pot-holes and 
narrow/twisty.
I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human rights 
rules?

David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying : 

> road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.

For band G. Not for 4x4s. The VED on my own 4x4 will rise a fiver over 
each of the next three years, from the current £110/yr.

> Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara

Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

> I get nearly 40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)

> However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90
> miles from the nearest railway and decent hospital. 

I'd suggest that that's irrelevant - If you do so few miles annually, 
you obviously don't go there much.

<shrug> If it's an issue, move house. Or buy a more economical vehicle.

> Our roads are pot-holes and narrow/twisty.

You poor love. What's that got to do with the price of fish?

> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
> rights rules? 

Don't be so fucking pathetic.

> David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much

>> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
>> rights rules?
>
> Don't be so fucking pathetic.

I agree, human rights, right to privacy and you loose all sympathy

Check which group your car is in before slagging off Stalin

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

Also bear in mind that the bands system is only implemented for
vehicles registered on or after 1st March 2001.  Band G is only
applicable to vehicles registered on or after 23rd March 2006.

There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
with the new budget yet.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
two rates.  A shame really as my audi would cost me £140 instead of
£180 if it was treated under post-March 2001 rules.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Ian Rawlings (news06@tarcus.org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 

> There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
> with the new budget yet.
> 
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle
> /DG_10012524 

This one is -
http://www.bytestart.co.uk/content/taxlegal/9_15/vehicle-excise-duty-rates-
2007-8.shtml

http://snipurl.com/1dm8t

> It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
> registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
> two rates.

*ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

Yes, I know they're going up (although I hadn't really bothered to
check by how much), I meant there are still only two rates for cars
prior to those dates, one for below a certain threshold, another for
on or above the threshold.

It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

BTW I think it's going up three times by a fiver for the next *2*
years, once with pretty much immediate effect, then again in about a
year, and once more in a further year.  Doesn't make much difference
either way.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 21/03/2007 19:16:27, Ian Rawlings wrote:

> It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
> than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

Well my Volvo V70 Estate will, at 234 g/km it falls into the "Gas Guzzler"
band.

Even though it averages 32 mpg.

At least my ancient 4.0 litre V8 Range Rover stays in the £180 band so that
evens it out a little.

-- 
Regards
Barry

road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.
Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara, I get nearly 
40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)
However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90 miles 
from the nearest railway and decent hospital. Our roads are pot-holes and 
narrow/twisty.
I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human rights 
rules?

David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying : 

> road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.

For band G. Not for 4x4s. The VED on my own 4x4 will rise a fiver over 
each of the next three years, from the current £110/yr.

> Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara

Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

> I get nearly 40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)

> However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90
> miles from the nearest railway and decent hospital. 

I'd suggest that that's irrelevant - If you do so few miles annually, 
you obviously don't go there much.

<shrug> If it's an issue, move house. Or buy a more economical vehicle.

> Our roads are pot-holes and narrow/twisty.

You poor love. What's that got to do with the price of fish?

> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
> rights rules? 

Don't be so fucking pathetic.

> David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much

>> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
>> rights rules?
>
> Don't be so fucking pathetic.

I agree, human rights, right to privacy and you loose all sympathy

Check which group your car is in before slagging off Stalin

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

Also bear in mind that the bands system is only implemented for
vehicles registered on or after 1st March 2001.  Band G is only
applicable to vehicles registered on or after 23rd March 2006.

There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
with the new budget yet.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
two rates.  A shame really as my audi would cost me £140 instead of
£180 if it was treated under post-March 2001 rules.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Ian Rawlings (news06@tarcus.org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 

> There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
> with the new budget yet.
> 
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle
> /DG_10012524 

This one is -
http://www.bytestart.co.uk/content/taxlegal/9_15/vehicle-excise-duty-rates-
2007-8.shtml

http://snipurl.com/1dm8t

> It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
> registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
> two rates.

*ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

Yes, I know they're going up (although I hadn't really bothered to
check by how much), I meant there are still only two rates for cars
prior to those dates, one for below a certain threshold, another for
on or above the threshold.

It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

BTW I think it's going up three times by a fiver for the next *2*
years, once with pretty much immediate effect, then again in about a
year, and once more in a further year.  Doesn't make much difference
either way.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 21/03/2007 19:16:27, Ian Rawlings wrote:

> It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
> than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

Well my Volvo V70 Estate will, at 234 g/km it falls into the "Gas Guzzler"
band.

Even though it averages 32 mpg.

At least my ancient 4.0 litre V8 Range Rover stays in the £180 band so that
evens it out a little.

-- 
Regards
Barry

road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.
Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara, I get nearly 
40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)
However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90 miles 
from the nearest railway and decent hospital. Our roads are pot-holes and 
narrow/twisty.
I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human rights 
rules?

David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying : 

> road tax up to £300, rising to £400 next year.

For band G. Not for 4x4s. The VED on my own 4x4 will rise a fiver over 
each of the next three years, from the current £110/yr.

> Like the previous poster I have a 2.0 TD suzuki grand vitara

Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

> I get nearly 40mpg and I do very few miles per year (approx 4000)

> However a car is essential, we are 130 miles from the nearest city, 90
> miles from the nearest railway and decent hospital. 

I'd suggest that that's irrelevant - If you do so few miles annually, 
you obviously don't go there much.

<shrug> If it's an issue, move house. Or buy a more economical vehicle.

> Our roads are pot-holes and narrow/twisty.

You poor love. What's that got to do with the price of fish?

> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
> rights rules? 

Don't be so fucking pathetic.

> David Harvey (adharvey@tiscali.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much

>> I now view it as a rural tax..surely that is illegal under EEC human
>> rights rules?
>
> Don't be so fucking pathetic.

I agree, human rights, right to privacy and you loose all sympathy

Check which group your car is in before slagging off Stalin

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> Which isn't band G. It's Band F. Which is going up a tenner.

Also bear in mind that the bands system is only implemented for
vehicles registered on or after 1st March 2001.  Band G is only
applicable to vehicles registered on or after 23rd March 2006.

There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
with the new budget yet.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524

It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
two rates.  A shame really as my audi would cost me £140 instead of
£180 if it was treated under post-March 2001 rules.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Ian Rawlings (news06@tarcus.org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : 

> There are tax tables on the following link, although not up-to-date
> with the new budget yet.
> 
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle
> /DG_10012524 

This one is -
http://www.bytestart.co.uk/content/taxlegal/9_15/vehicle-excise-duty-rates-
2007-8.shtml

http://snipurl.com/1dm8t

> It's not entirely clear but it looks like private/light goods vehicles
> registered before 1st March 2001 (all of mine) still stay at one of
> two rates.

*ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

Yes, I know they're going up (although I hadn't really bothered to
check by how much), I meant there are still only two rates for cars
prior to those dates, one for below a certain threshold, another for
on or above the threshold.

It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 2007-03-21, Adrian  wrote:

> *ding* - both of 'em going up a fiver a year for the next three years.

BTW I think it's going up three times by a fiver for the next *2*
years, once with pretty much immediate effect, then again in about a
year, and once more in a further year.  Doesn't make much difference
either way.

-- 
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

On 21/03/2007 19:16:27, Ian Rawlings wrote:

> It'll be fun to see which family runabouts will be paying more VED
> than my honking great big 6-wheeler ;-)

Well my Volvo V70 Estate will, at 234 g/km it falls into the "Gas Guzzler"
band.

Even though it averages 32 mpg.

At least my ancient 4.0 litre V8 Range Rover stays in the £180 band so that
evens it out a little.

-- 
Regards
Barry