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On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 04:31:11 -0700 (PDT), KHAI
 wrote:

<snip stuff that only matters to fundies>

>Contact us now at this E-Mail address:  YAOHUS...@email.msn.com
>
>
>  Do it now!

<another snip>

Shar't!

Is this a drive-by posting, or do you want to play?

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From Mike Hubbard :

>On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 04:31:11 -0700 (PDT), KHAI
> wrote:
>
><snip stuff that only matters to fundies>
>
>>Contact us now at this E-Mail address:  YAOHUS...@email.msn.com
>>
>>
>>  Do it now!
>
><another snip>
>
>Shar't!
>
>Is this a drive-by posting, or do you want to play?

<slightly morose> I could do with a game of 'kick the boogeyman'.
Let's rant at something, shall we? Pick a topic. ;-)


-- 
"...Nothing worth saying is inoffensive to everyone.
 
You do not have a right to be ring-fenced from offence..."

On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:06:20 +0100, Halla
 wrote:

>From Mike Hubbard :

><slightly morose> I could do with a game of 'kick the boogeyman'.
>Let's rant at something, shall we? Pick a topic. ;-)

Er, don't know. Sarcastic people, perhaps? Or racists? I live in the
North West and we have just got the leader of the British Nazi Party
representing us in Europe.

Or how about fundamentalist creationists who claim that evolution has
got scientific flaws? These people believe in raising the dead,
walking on water and turning sticks into snakes! They wouldn't know a
scientific argument if one fell on them. They would be the first to
complain if a scientist tried to tell them what was or was not
religious, so in return they should not be allowed to say anything
about science.

Paganism is different because it doesn't deny science. In fact, we
invented most scientific disciplines in the first place. (Except
algebra - that was the moslems). Of course modern astronomy and
chemistry (for instance) claim to have no connection with astrology
and alchemy, but the roots are there, and they even use a lot of the
same names for things, like constellations or hermetic seals.

How's that for the beginning of a rant?

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From Mike Hubbard :

>On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:06:20 +0100, Halla
> wrote:
>
>>From Mike Hubbard :
>
>><slightly morose> I could do with a game of 'kick the boogeyman'.
>>Let's rant at something, shall we? Pick a topic. ;-)
>
>Er, don't know. Sarcastic people, perhaps? Or racists? I live in the
>North West and we have just got the leader of the British Nazi Party
>representing us in Europe.
>

That should be good for a laugh - and also a cry, of course. I'm just
reading the transcript of a local radio interview of the new bloke in
Doncaster. What a star he is...
http://andys.org.uk/b/2009/06/08/a-whole-lot-of-nothing/

>Or how about fundamentalist creationists who claim that evolution has
>got scientific flaws? 

Uh... whut? How? Which ones?

>These people believe in raising the dead,
>walking on water and turning sticks into snakes! They wouldn't know a
>scientific argument if one fell on them. They would be the first to
>complain if a scientist tried to tell them what was or was not
>religious, so in return they should not be allowed to say anything
>about science.

And another sort of fundamentalist, the pro-lifers in America who are
all backing away and waving their hands about how it's not their fault
that Doctor Tiller was shot at his church, but hey, well done to the
guy who shot him, all the same. And every single stupid commenter on
the article about how millions of women are dead who shouldn't be and
researchers are trying to find out why who tried to hijack the
comments for their pro-life fuckwittery.

>
>Paganism is different because it doesn't deny science. In fact, we
>invented most scientific disciplines in the first place. (Except
>algebra - that was the moslems). Of course modern astronomy and
>chemistry (for instance) claim to have no connection with astrology
>and alchemy, but the roots are there, and they even use a lot of the
>same names for things, like constellations or hermetic seals.

See, you sound quite reasonable there, not ranty at all. 

>
>How's that for the beginning of a rant?

It's got promise. Carry on. ;-)


-- 
"...Nothing worth saying is inoffensive to everyone.
 
You do not have a right to be ring-fenced from offence..."

On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:38:00 +0100, Halla
 wrote:

>From Mike Hubbard :
>
>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:06:20 +0100, Halla
>> wrote:
>>
>>>From Mike Hubbard :
>>
>>><slightly morose> I could do with a game of 'kick the boogeyman'.
>>>Let's rant at something, shall we? Pick a topic. ;-)
>>
>>Er, don't know. Sarcastic people, perhaps? Or racists? I live in the
>>North West and we have just got the leader of the British Nazi Party
>>representing us in Europe.
>>
>
>That should be good for a laugh - and also a cry, of course. I'm just
>reading the transcript of a local radio interview of the new bloke in
>Doncaster. What a star he is...
>http://andys.org.uk/b/2009/06/08/a-whole-lot-of-nothing/

I just read that. Thanks. I remember what happens when "joke"
candidates get elected from when I was at University. This clown looks
like he might cause a lot of damage before he gets reigned in by
reality.

>>Or how about fundamentalist creationists who claim that evolution has
>>got scientific flaws? 
>
>Uh... whut? How? Which ones?

Well, (pause for quick Google) start with these ones:

http://www.biblelife.org/evolution.htm

I can't even begin to say how wrong it is. Actually I can. It starts
with the conclusion (Evolution is wrong) and then goes looking for
evidence to support their premise and ignore or dismiss everything
that doesn't. This is the exact opposite of the scientific method
where you start with observed phenomena, document it as accurately as
possible and then try to find the most likely explanation.

And it sets up straw man arguments about how "evolutionists say ..."
then knock it down.

sample quote:
Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is
Wrong.

The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow
from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an
organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is
scientifically backwards according to the second law of
thermodynamics, which has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot
have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be
correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. The Theory of Evolution
is contrary to proven scientific truth.

end quote.

No, that is NOT what the second law of thermodynamics says. Droplets
of water are simple. Snowflakes (with less energy than water) are
extremely complex. An oak tree is a lot more complicated than an
acorn, but it is the same organism that has re-arranged itself,
without the aid of the Magic Invisible Intelligent Design Pixies (as
far as anyone can tell, but you can't prove or disprove anything about
what the MIIDP's may or may not do, so science cannot express an
opinion, although religion might).

And that's just a quick response off the top of my head without
researching anything.

And their conclusion "Now that we have proved evolution is wrong that
means biblical creationism must be true because it is the only other
alternative" (not quite in those words) what about other creation
myths? Viking? Greek? Egyptian? Great Green Arklesiezure? All were the
best guess at the time based on what was known and believed then
(except the last one - that was Douglas Adams).

>>These people believe in raising the dead,
>>walking on water and turning sticks into snakes! They wouldn't know a
>>scientific argument if one fell on them. They would be the first to
>>complain if a scientist tried to tell them what was or was not
>>religious, so in return they should not be allowed to say anything
>>about science.
>
>And another sort of fundamentalist, the pro-lifers in America who are
>all backing away and waving their hands about how it's not their fault
>that Doctor Tiller was shot at his church, but hey, well done to the
>guy who shot him, all the same.

It must be an American thing. "I didn't pull the trigger,I just
published his name and address on the internet and wrote loads of
stuff on how abortionists are evil and Christians must destroy evil
where nutcases could read it. It's my first amendment right!"

>And every single stupid commenter on
>the article about how millions of women are dead who shouldn't be and
>researchers are trying to find out why who tried to hijack the
>comments for their pro-life fuckwittery.

Go you mean in places like China, where they have a "one child per
family" rule and need a boy to carry on the family surname? Or India,
where girls are burdens that you have to pay someone to marry with
dowries? That is nothing to do with abortion in America is it? It's
the result of different economics and society values.

>>
>>Paganism is different because it doesn't deny science. In fact, we
>>invented most scientific disciplines in the first place. (Except
>>algebra - that was the moslems). Of course modern astronomy and
>>chemistry (for instance) claim to have no connection with astrology
>>and alchemy, but the roots are there, and they even use a lot of the
>>same names for things, like constellations or hermetic seals.
>
>See, you sound quite reasonable there, not ranty at all. 

How are we expected to rant when we are politely agreeing with each
other? I wish Mr "tushulyaodaodyah.khaya" would come back with his
bizarre mix of "you must do this" and hebrew alphabet pronunciation
guide. We don't get any good "puddy tats" visiting any more.

>>
>>How's that for the beginning of a rant?
>
>It's got promise. Carry on. ;-)

Thank you. Anyone else want to join in? This newsgroup is very quiet
at the moment.

-- 
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From Mike Hubbard :

>On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:38:00 +0100, Halla
> wrote:
>
>>From Mike Hubbard :
>>
>>>On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:06:20 +0100, Halla
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>From Mike Hubbard :
>>>
>>>><slightly morose> I could do with a game of 'kick the boogeyman'.
>>>>Let's rant at something, shall we? Pick a topic. ;-)
>>>
>>>Er, don't know. Sarcastic people, perhaps? Or racists? I live in the
>>>North West and we have just got the leader of the British Nazi Party
>>>representing us in Europe.
>>>
>>
>>That should be good for a laugh - and also a cry, of course. I'm just
>>reading the transcript of a local radio interview of the new bloke in
>>Doncaster. What a star he is...
>>http://andys.org.uk/b/2009/06/08/a-whole-lot-of-nothing/
>
>I just read that. Thanks. I remember what happens when "joke"
>candidates get elected from when I was at University. This clown looks
>like he might cause a lot of damage before he gets reigned in by
>reality.
>

This is slightly cheering too, although I shouldn't laugh at his
misfortune really... hehehehehehe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8091605.stm

I do hope the other eejit doesn't cause much damage but then as was
repeatedly pointed out he keeps proposing to do things that he simply
isn't allowed to do. Maybe he'll stamp his feet so hard that he'll
break the mayoral floor.

>>>Or how about fundamentalist creationists who claim that evolution has
>>>got scientific flaws? 
>>
>>Uh... whut? How? Which ones?
>
>Well, (pause for quick Google) start with these ones:
>
>http://www.biblelife.org/evolution.htm
<snip>
>
>And it sets up straw man arguments about how "evolutionists say ..."
>then knock it down.

Ah yes, a favourite tactic. Much used by the dangerously wrong.

>
>sample quote:
>Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is
>Wrong.
>
>The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow
>from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an
>organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is
>scientifically backwards according to the second law of
>thermodynamics, which has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot
>have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be
>correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. The Theory of Evolution
>is contrary to proven scientific truth.
>
>end quote.
>

Stop! My brain hurts!

<snip>
>>And another sort of fundamentalist, the pro-lifers in America who are
>>all backing away and waving their hands about how it's not their fault
>>that Doctor Tiller was shot at his church, but hey, well done to the
>>guy who shot him, all the same.
>
>It must be an American thing. "I didn't pull the trigger,I just
>published his name and address on the internet and wrote loads of
>stuff on how abortionists are evil and Christians must destroy evil
>where nutcases could read it. It's my first amendment right!"

<nods> The animal rights loony fringe is following suit. Bunch of
unbalanced control freaks, the lot of them. 

>
>>And every single stupid commenter on
>>the article about how millions of women are dead who shouldn't be and
>>researchers are trying to find out why who tried to hijack the
>>comments for their pro-life fuckwittery.
>
>Go you mean in places like China, where they have a "one child per
>family" rule and need a boy to carry on the family surname? Or India,
>where girls are burdens that you have to pay someone to marry with
>dowries? That is nothing to do with abortion in America is it? It's
>the result of different economics and society values.

Well yeah but the research seems to indicate that this does not
account for anything like all of the deaths - in India 'kitchen fires'
and other accidental deaths seem to claim a disproportianately large
number of young women. More women are dying of disease in Africa than
men with the same diseases, that sort of thing. They are speculating
that women have poorer access to medical treatment and are subject to
worse conditions generally in some places, now they have to do the
research. I wonder how much of it is women choosing to send other sick
family members for treatment or being used up caring for other sick
family members. I expect lack of treatment is a huge factor mind. 

<snip>
>>
>>See, you sound quite reasonable there, not ranty at all. 
>
>How are we expected to rant when we are politely agreeing with each
>other? 

True. Er, I mean, no we're not!

>I wish Mr "tushulyaodaodyah.khaya" 

You made that up, didn't you? 

>would come back with his
>bizarre mix of "you must do this" and hebrew alphabet pronunciation
>guide. We don't get any good "puddy tats" visiting any more.

The art of proper, effective tr0lling is dying. I'm not that sorry to
see it go, mind you, but still. <g> Shouting 'No YOU ARE!!!!!' and
running off isn't quite the same as someone putting some thought and
energy into it.

>
>>>
>>>How's that for the beginning of a rant?
>>
>>It's got promise. Carry on. ;-)
>
>Thank you. Anyone else want to join in? This newsgroup is very quiet
>at the moment.

Isn't it though? :-/


-- 
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You do not have a right to be ring-fenced from offence..."

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:12:38 +0100, Halla
 wrote:

>From Mike Hubbard :
>
>>On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:38:00 +0100, Halla
>> wrote:

(snip)

>This is slightly cheering too, although I shouldn't laugh at his
>misfortune really... hehehehehehe
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8091605.stm

Love it!

Here are some newspaper front pages (warning pun alert).

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jun/Week2/15299888.jpg

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jun/Week2/15299927.jpg

>I do hope the other eejit doesn't cause much damage but then as was
>repeatedly pointed out he keeps proposing to do things that he simply
>isn't allowed to do. Maybe he'll stamp his feet so hard that he'll
>break the mayoral floor.

Hopefully he'll just sit out his term and then go away.

Whatever happened to "Hangus the Monkey"? He was a football team
mascot who got elected as mayor of somewhere as a joke by the
supporters club, and then (shock) turned out to be not a real monkey
at all, but a man in a costume who didn't have any political
experience.

>>>>Or how about fundamentalist creationists who claim that evolution has
>>>>got scientific flaws? 
>>>
>>>Uh... whut? How? Which ones?
>>
>>Well, (pause for quick Google) start with these ones:
>>
>>http://www.biblelife.org/evolution.htm
><snip>
>>
>>And it sets up straw man arguments about how "evolutionists say ..."
>>then knock it down.
>
>Ah yes, a favourite tactic. Much used by the dangerously wrong.
>
>>
>>sample quote:
>>Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is
>>Wrong.
>>
>>The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow
>>from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an
>>organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is
>>scientifically backwards according to the second law of
>>thermodynamics, which has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot
>>have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be
>>correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. The Theory of Evolution
>>is contrary to proven scientific truth.
>>
>>end quote.
>>
>
>Stop! My brain hurts!

I thought that too. Here's what the REAL Second Law of Thermodynamics
says:

The entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will tend to
increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium.

And that's all it says. It means, in simple terms that whenever energy
changes from one state to another it is never 100% efficient - there
is always some energy "wasted" as heat, noise or some other
by-product.

No mention of chaos or organisation. If the "Home School" version of
the 2nd Law claimed above were true, then NOTHING could ever go from
being simple to complex, including single cells, clouds , people or
ancient middle eastern religions.

><snip>
>>>And another sort of fundamentalist, the pro-lifers in America who are
>>>all backing away and waving their hands about how it's not their fault
>>>that Doctor Tiller was shot at his church, but hey, well done to the
>>>guy who shot him, all the same.
>>
>>It must be an American thing. "I didn't pull the trigger,I just
>>published his name and address on the internet and wrote loads of
>>stuff on how abortionists are evil and Christians must destroy evil
>>where nutcases could read it. It's my first amendment right!"
>
><nods> The animal rights loony fringe is following suit. Bunch of
>unbalanced control freaks, the lot of them. 

I liked the South Park version of PETA. They lived in tents, slept
with animals, worshipped a goat and tipped buckets of blood over
schoolchildren because their school football team was called "The
Cows". But they got off lightly compared with what South Park has done
to other organisations.

>>
>>>And every single stupid commenter on
>>>the article about how millions of women are dead who shouldn't be and
>>>researchers are trying to find out why who tried to hijack the
>>>comments for their pro-life fuckwittery.
>>
>>Go you mean in places like China, where they have a "one child per
>>family" rule and need a boy to carry on the family surname? Or India,
>>where girls are burdens that you have to pay someone to marry with
>>dowries? That is nothing to do with abortion in America is it? It's
>>the result of different economics and society values.
>
>Well yeah but the research seems to indicate that this does not
>account for anything like all of the deaths - in India 'kitchen fires'
>and other accidental deaths seem to claim a disproportianately large
>number of young women. More women are dying of disease in Africa than
>men with the same diseases, that sort of thing. They are speculating
>that women have poorer access to medical treatment and are subject to
>worse conditions generally in some places, now they have to do the
>research. I wonder how much of it is women choosing to send other sick
>family members for treatment or being used up caring for other sick
>family members. I expect lack of treatment is a huge factor mind. 

If there is a war then you would expect a disproportionate number of
young men to die. Even less to do with abortion.

><snip>
>>>
>>>See, you sound quite reasonable there, not ranty at all. 
>>
>>How are we expected to rant when we are politely agreeing with each
>>other? 
>
>True. Er, I mean, no we're not!
>
>>I wish Mr "tushulyaodaodyah.khaya" 
>
>You made that up, didn't you? 

Wasn't me, honest. It was whoever started this thread.

>>would come back with his
>>bizarre mix of "you must do this" and hebrew alphabet pronunciation
>>guide. We don't get any good "puddy tats" visiting any more.
>
>The art of proper, effective tr0lling is dying. I'm not that sorry to
>see it go, mind you, but still. <g> Shouting 'No YOU ARE!!!!!' and
>running off isn't quite the same as someone putting some thought and
>energy into it.

There's no point trying to troll a newsgroup if nobody is reading it.
All the "kewl" kids are off twitting on their bookfaces, or something.

>>>>
>>>>How's that for the beginning of a rant?
>>>
>>>It's got promise. Carry on. ;-)
>>
>>Thank you. Anyone else want to join in? This newsgroup is very quiet
>>at the moment.
>
>Isn't it though? :-/

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Mike Hubbard  wrote:

> The entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will tend to
> increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium.
> 
> And that's all it says. It means, in simple terms that whenever energy
> changes from one state to another it is never 100% efficient - there
> is always some energy "wasted" as heat, noise or some other
> by-product.
> 
> No mention of chaos or organisation. If the "Home School" version of
> the 2nd Law claimed above were true, then NOTHING could ever go from
> being simple to complex, including single cells, clouds , people or
> ancient middle eastern religions.

The crucial point is *isolated* system.

None of the systems discussed by you or by him are isolated.
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:18:16 +0100, dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel
Cohen) wrote:

>Mike Hubbard  wrote:

>> No mention of chaos or organisation. If the "Home School" version of
>> the 2nd Law claimed above were true, then NOTHING could ever go from
>> being simple to complex, including single cells, clouds , people or
>> ancient middle eastern religions.
>
>The crucial point is *isolated* system.
>
>None of the systems discussed by you or by him are isolated.

Yep. As long as the sun keeps shining any arguments about life on
Earth being a closed system are not going to apply.

And another thing about the 2nd law - it implies that originally the
universe was perfectly ordered, not "primal chaos reigned" as it says
in Genesis (or was it the opening sequence to Monkey - I always get
those two confused).

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