I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!

Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic and wonder if a spate of
good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
syndrome. :-)


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

"Halla"  wrote in message
news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>

Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
[does funny dance]
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:28 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
 blethered:

>
>
>
>"Halla"  wrote in message
>news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>>
>
>Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
>[does funny dance]

Is it like the Snoopy happy dance? :-)


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:21:43 +0000, Halla
 wrote:

>I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>
>Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic and wonder if a spate of
>good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
>superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
>syndrome. :-)

W00t!  Congratulations!

-- 

Wood Avens

"Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth
should that mean that it is not real?"

spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:34:56 +0000, Wood Avens
 blethered:

>On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:21:43 +0000, Halla
> wrote:
>
>>I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>>and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>>
>>Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic and wonder if a spate of
>>good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
>>superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
>>syndrome. :-)
>
>W00t!  Congratulations!

Thank you. :-) I'm just as pleased actually that a) I got an interview
and b) apparently I got on OK in it since they called me back that
afternoon. Nice boost to the confidence that.

Councils aren't very rapid when it comes to organising interviews
though, are they? The closing date for this job was the 3rd November,
and I'd assumed that they weren't interested as I didn't hear from
them until a week or so ago. 


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

"Halla"  wrote in message
news:o0v1m3l9o2n4gublkp73mgbo5tnrcj8dot@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:28 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
>  blethered:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >"Halla"  wrote in message
> >news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
> >> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
> >> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
> >>
> >
> >Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
> >[does funny dance]
>
> Is it like the Snoopy happy dance? :-)

Oh very much so :-D

And well done from me too. We have allotments but their locations scare me.
I have a fear of marauding gangs of chav lads.

Jo

On 2007-12-13, Rhiannon_s  wrote:
> "Halla"  wrote in message
> news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>
> Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
> [does funny dance]

Youtube URL?  :-)  And congratulations to Halla!

Jeremy Henty

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:02:38 GMT, "Jo B"
 blethered:

>
>"Halla"  wrote in message
>news:o0v1m3l9o2n4gublkp73mgbo5tnrcj8dot@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:28 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
>>  blethered:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Halla"  wrote in message
>> >news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>> >> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>> >> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>> >>
>> >
>> >Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
>> >[does funny dance]
>>
>> Is it like the Snoopy happy dance? :-)
>
>Oh very much so :-D
>
>And well done from me too. 

Thanks. :-)

>We have allotments but their locations scare me.
>I have a fear of marauding gangs of chav lads.

Do they maraud there a lot? We're anticipating some problems with
drunken teens because our site is in a park, but hopefully not too
much and this is a remarkably chav-free area (there's a few who try it
on, of course, but generally they're OK). There's usually someone else
around on an allotment site anyway, plus you would have a useful
variety of long sharp implements nearby if any gangs of chavs did hove
into view. I'd have thought property damage and petty theft would be
more of a problem than outright intimidation of tenants. 


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:11:17 -0600, Jeremy Henty
 blethered:

>On 2007-12-13, Rhiannon_s  wrote:
>> "Halla"  wrote in message
>> news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>>> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>>> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>>
>> Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
>> [does funny dance]
>
>Youtube URL?  :-)  

Warning: May Contain Cute. Allergy To Cute Can Lead To Nausea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XLPzdptEU

;-)

>And congratulations to Halla!

Thanks. :-)


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On 2007-12-13, Halla  wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:11:17 -0600, Jeremy Henty
> blethered:
>
>>On 2007-12-13, Rhiannon_s  wrote:
>>> Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
>>> [does funny dance]
>>
>>Youtube URL?  :-)  
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XLPzdptEU

Rhiannon_s is younger than I thought.  :-)

Jeremy Henty

"Halla"  wrote in message
news:o0v1m3l9o2n4gublkp73mgbo5tnrcj8dot@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:28 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
>  blethered:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >"Halla"  wrote in message
> >news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
> >> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
> >> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
> >>
> >
> >Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
> >[does funny dance]
>
> Is it like the Snoopy happy dance? :-)
>
>


It is more a whoop-whoop-kaching-fizz-pogo-boig style of dance actually :op
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.

.
"Jeremy Henty"  wrote in message
news:slrnfm2brl.2pk.onepoint@omphalos.onepoint...
> On 2007-12-13, Rhiannon_s  wrote:
> > "Halla"  wrote in message
> > news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
> >> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
> >> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
> >
> > Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
> > [does funny dance]
>
> Youtube URL?  :-)  And congratulations to Halla!
>


Well, y'see I would, but I'm not going to so :op
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets

"Halla"  wrote in message
news:cjh2m3dcod58g0e78ekqjf5g9g080ibs0j@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:11:17 -0600, Jeremy Henty
>  blethered:
>
> >On 2007-12-13, Rhiannon_s  wrote:
> >> "Halla"  wrote in message
> >> news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
> >>> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
> >>> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
> >>
> >> Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
> >> [does funny dance]
> >
> >Youtube URL?  :-)
>
> Warning: May Contain Cute. Allergy To Cute Can Lead To Nausea.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XLPzdptEU
>


ewwwwww get it away from me, getitawaygetitaway....
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.
> I thought I'd always be their child.
> In my sleep it's never winter."

"Jeremy Henty"  wrote in message
news:slrnfm2u0a.2pk.onepoint@omphalos.onepoint...
> On 2007-12-13, Halla  wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:11:17 -0600, Jeremy Henty
> > blethered:
> >
> >>On 2007-12-13, Rhiannon_s  wrote:
> >>> Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
> >>> [does funny dance]
> >>
> >>Youtube URL?  :-)
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XLPzdptEU
>
> Rhiannon_s is younger than I thought.  :-)
>
lol :o)
--
Rhiannon_s
There is no God but Eris, and Jay and Silent Bob are her Prophets.

On 13 Dec, 00:21, Halla  wrote:
> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),

Coooo... go you. :}

> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!

And yay, indeedy. So where do we sign up for fresh veg?

> Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic

What, you still get on-topic posts in this place? I'm impressed. ;)

> and wonder if a spate of
> good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
> syndrome. :-)

Dunno 'bout the latter 'cause dunno how different the conditioning is
up there to down here, but aren't these things s'posed to come in
threes? Hmmmm, s'pose the next question is the much mooted "why
threes?"

trin
(flying visit, dunno when I'll be back 'cause still hate using
Ggroups, and Pipex is still being an arse with their news server)

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:35:13 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
 blethered:

>
>"Halla"  wrote in message
>news:o0v1m3l9o2n4gublkp73mgbo5tnrcj8dot@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:28 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
>>  blethered:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Halla"  wrote in message
>> >news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>> >> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>> >> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>> >>
>> >
>> >Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
>> >[does funny dance]
>>
>> Is it like the Snoopy happy dance? :-)
>>
>>
>
>
>It is more a whoop-whoop-kaching-fizz-pogo-boig style of dance actually :op

OK... sounds kinda techno. <g>


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:00:27 -0800 (PST), trin
 blethered:

>On 13 Dec, 00:21, Halla  wrote:
>> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>
>Coooo... go you. :}
>

Lookit! It's you! How's you?

>> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>
>And yay, indeedy. So where do we sign up for fresh veg?

Well now. We've to sign for it and so on (but we now have a bank
account and can apply for charity status, yay us). We've to plough it,
or otherwise disturb the weeds and grass and the ground, fence it, get
some bits of tree trimming done, lay it out, get paths done, plant the
hedge, get gates, organise the water supply (there's a pipe there
somewhere, dagnabbit. Perhaps I should take up dowsing) and otherwise
get started. That's before we even have to handle the membership
lists, fees and whatnot, figure out what community groups to invite
and do so, sort out insurance, funding, Green Gym and so on. <:-/ So,
er... I may not have time to grow any veg. ;-)

>
>> Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic
>
>What, you still get on-topic posts in this place? I'm impressed. ;)

Once in a while. <g>

>
>> and wonder if a spate of
>> good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
>> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
>> syndrome. :-)
>
>Dunno 'bout the latter 'cause dunno how different the conditioning is
>up there to down here, 

Well, would *you* expect something bad to happen off the back of a run
of good luck? :-) 

>but aren't these things s'posed to come in
>threes? 

Allegedly we won a PS3 at the pictures the other week. That'd be
three. :-)

>Hmmmm, s'pose the next question is the much mooted "why
>threes?"

Indeedy.

>
>trin
>(flying visit, dunno when I'll be back 'cause still hate using
>Ggroups, and Pipex is still being an arse with their news server)

Poo. German server? Motzarella? (can't remember if that one is free,
now)


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On 14 Dec, 00:32, Halla  wrote:
> trin  blethered:

> Lookit! It's you! How's you?

:} Survivin', as yer do (well, 'cept when you don't, obviously :p). As
ever, I really shouldn't be here right now 'cause I should be in bed
(some things never change) 'cause I'm going up with Bestest to watch
Middle Son pass out of the Army (well, hopefully he'll just laeve
where he's been training rather than pass out - I've always thought it
was weird they use that phrase).

> >> we got our allotment site!
> >And yay, indeedy. So where do we sign up for fresh veg?
>
> Well now. We've to ... So, er... I may not have time to grow any
> veg. ;-)

Obdyol heck! Well, erm, good luck with all that. Heh, throw a few
apple seeds over the fence tomorrow, and by the time you've finished
all that, you'll go back to a fully mature orchard. ;)

> >> and wonder if a spate of
> >> good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
> >> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
> >> syndrome. :-)
>
> >Dunno 'bout the latter 'cause dunno how different the conditioning is
> >up there to down here,
>
> Well, would *you* expect something bad to happen off the back of a run
> of good luck? :-)

Yes. <g>

> >but aren't these things s'posed to come in
> >threes?
>
> Allegedly we won a PS3 at the pictures the other week. That'd be
> three. :-)

Doesn't that depend on whether you consider winning a PS3 to be a Good
Thing(tm) or not though? ;)

> >Hmmmm, s'pose the next question is the much mooted "why
> >threes?"
>
> Indeedy.

Summat to do with triangles being stronger, or some such, IIRC?

> >(flying visit, dunno when I'll be back 'cause still hate using
> >Ggroups, and Pipex is still being an arse with their news server)
>
> Poo. German server? Motzarella? (can't remember if that one is free,
> now)
>
> --
> "I can still see her face at thirty.
> When will I be most myself?
> I thought I'd always be their child.
> In my sleep it's never winter."

Means paying for it though, and I don't see why I should when Pipex're
s'posed to be giving us one as part of our ADSL package - just a shame
the damn thing never works. Besides, I don't think I'd ever convince
Nick that paying for =extra= Internet access'd ever be a Good Thing -
he thinks I spend too much time on here as it is. <g>

trin

"Halla"  wrote in message 
news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>
> Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic and wonder if a spate of
> good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
> syndrome. :-)
>
>

Definitely, go, you! :) Well done!

"Halla"  wrote in message
news:t6h2m3pnhp9lm1tbsqgf0iv077gbu5u1p2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:02:38 GMT, "Jo B"
>  blethered:
>
> >
> >"Halla"  wrote in message
> >news:o0v1m3l9o2n4gublkp73mgbo5tnrcj8dot@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:28 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
> >>  blethered:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Halla"  wrote in message
> >> >news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
> >> >> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis,
anyway),
> >> >> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment
site!
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
> >> >[does funny dance]
> >>
> >> Is it like the Snoopy happy dance? :-)
> >
> >Oh very much so :-D
> >
> >And well done from me too.
>
> Thanks. :-)
>
> >We have allotments but their locations scare me.
> >I have a fear of marauding gangs of chav lads.
>
> Do they maraud there a lot?

Quite a bit yeah - we live in Chav-central and the allotments are all near
big estates with a lot of social housing. They are pretty brazen here.

We're anticipating some problems with
> drunken teens because our site is in a park, but hopefully not too
> much and this is a remarkably chav-free area (there's a few who try it
> on, of course, but generally they're OK). There's usually someone else
> around on an allotment site anyway, plus you would have a useful
> variety of long sharp implements nearby if any gangs of chavs did hove
> into view. I'd have thought property damage and petty theft would be
> more of a problem than outright intimidation of tenants.

Yeah damage and theft/burglary are bigger problems and a lot of people have
given up trying to keep chickens etc cos there was a spate of attacks
(kicking them to death or ripping heads off and leaving the mess for the
allotment holder to find on their return).
I find it all a bit off-putting so although it may be a more limited option
with lack of space and poor light levels but the back yard and pots will
have to do.

Jo
(who is maybe more paranoid than she needs to be, but once attacked twice
shy)

In urp, Halla  wrote:
> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis,
> anyway), and our local friendly councillor tells us we got
> our allotment site!

Very many dancing rodenty things

> Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic and wonder if a
> spate of good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above
> yourself' syndrome. :-)

Only if you expect it to.
Sod enjoys fulfilling negative expectations.
Why shouldn't good luck draw good luck?

Jymn

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:10:48 GMT, "Jo B"
 blethered:

>
>"Halla"  wrote in message
>news:t6h2m3pnhp9lm1tbsqgf0iv077gbu5u1p2@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:02:38 GMT, "Jo B"
>>  blethered:
>>
>> >
>> >"Halla"  wrote in message
>> >news:o0v1m3l9o2n4gublkp73mgbo5tnrcj8dot@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:36:28 -0000, "Rhiannon_s"
>> >>  blethered:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Halla"  wrote in message
>> >> >news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>> >> >> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis,
>anyway),
>> >> >> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment
>site!
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Woohoo!!  I shall do a funny celebrate type dance!
>> >> >[does funny dance]
>> >>
>> >> Is it like the Snoopy happy dance? :-)
>> >
>> >Oh very much so :-D
>> >
>> >And well done from me too.
>>
>> Thanks. :-)
>>
>> >We have allotments but their locations scare me.
>> >I have a fear of marauding gangs of chav lads.
>>
>> Do they maraud there a lot?
>
>Quite a bit yeah - we live in Chav-central and the allotments are all near
>big estates with a lot of social housing. They are pretty brazen here.

Have they broken all the initiatives designed to give them something
else to do?

>
>We're anticipating some problems with
>> drunken teens because our site is in a park, but hopefully not too
>> much and this is a remarkably chav-free area (there's a few who try it
>> on, of course, but generally they're OK). There's usually someone else
>> around on an allotment site anyway, plus you would have a useful
>> variety of long sharp implements nearby if any gangs of chavs did hove
>> into view. I'd have thought property damage and petty theft would be
>> more of a problem than outright intimidation of tenants.
>
>Yeah damage and theft/burglary are bigger problems 

My mum's old allotment site, in the middle of one of those *very posh*
bits of housing, had a big problem with shed break-ins and fires. Got
to admire the roaming instinct of the common chav, I suppose, they're
prepared to travel quite a way to cause mischief.

>and a lot of people have
>given up trying to keep chickens etc cos there was a spate of attacks
>(kicking them to death or ripping heads off and leaving the mess for the
>allotment holder to find on their return).

How charming. :-(

>I find it all a bit off-putting so although it may be a more limited option
>with lack of space and poor light levels but the back yard and pots will
>have to do.

Tomato plants in the windowsills. Hanging baskets of lettuce and
herbs, and edible flowers (they seem to be coming back into fashion,
too). Compost bags of potatoes. Pots with fruit bushes. You may not
have loads of light but they should be sheltered at least?

>
>Jo
>(who is maybe more paranoid than she needs to be, but once attacked twice
>shy)
>

Oh completely. I know what you mean.


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:07:20 -0000, "janet" 
blethered:

>
>"Halla"  wrote in message 
>news:glu0m3190745ntr078uk4rd20sevn02u21@4ax.com...
>>I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis, anyway),
>> and our local friendly councillor tells us we got our allotment site!
>>
>> Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic and wonder if a spate of
>> good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
>> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
>> syndrome. :-)
>>
>>
>
>Definitely, go, you! :) Well done! 
>

Thank you. :-)


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:40:57 -0000, "Jymn" 
blethered:

>In urp, Halla  wrote:
>> I appear to have found a job (on a sort of as-and-when basis,
>> anyway), and our local friendly councillor tells us we got
>> our allotment site!
>
>Very many dancing rodenty things

Dancing rodents are always good, thanks. :-)

>
>> Actually, I could make this vaguely on topic and wonder if a
>> spate of good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
>> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above
>> yourself' syndrome. :-)
>
>Only if you expect it to.
>Sod enjoys fulfilling negative expectations.
>Why shouldn't good luck draw good luck?

True. Thank you. <g>


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:10:50 -0800 (PST), trin
 blethered:

>On 14 Dec, 00:32, Halla  wrote:
>> trin  blethered:
>
>> Lookit! It's you! How's you?
>
>:} Survivin', as yer do (well, 'cept when you don't, obviously :p). As
>ever, I really shouldn't be here right now 'cause I should be in bed

Ah yes, but see this is what happens when we let those annoying
morning people run the world. ;-)

>(some things never change) 'cause I'm going up with Bestest to watch
>Middle Son pass out of the Army (well, hopefully he'll just laeve
>where he's been training rather than pass out - I've always thought it
>was weird they use that phrase).

Well yeah. 'Pass' is one of those tricky words, too. 

>
>> >> we got our allotment site!
>> >And yay, indeedy. So where do we sign up for fresh veg?
>>
>> Well now. We've to ... So, er... I may not have time to grow any
>> veg. ;-)
>
>Obdyol heck! Well, erm, good luck with all that. Heh, throw a few
>apple seeds over the fence tomorrow, and by the time you've finished
>all that, you'll go back to a fully mature orchard. ;)

Heh. Shouldn't be as bad as all that, mind you. Still waiting to
officially break the news to everyone but I think that'll have to wait
until the chairman gets back from France. We've been unofficially told
now by a councillor and the head of something very relevent, so we
know we've got it. 

>
>> >> and wonder if a spate of
>> >> good luck is bound to attract bad or whether that's
>> >> superstition/conditioning/West of Scotland 'don't get above yourself'
>> >> syndrome. :-)
>>
>> >Dunno 'bout the latter 'cause dunno how different the conditioning is
>> >up there to down here,
>>
>> Well, would *you* expect something bad to happen off the back of a run
>> of good luck? :-)
>
>Yes. <g>

Well there we go - I got a knockback for the other job I applied for.
There were two posts going for the one I interviewed for the other
day, and I only got one of them. Was rejected for the other today. ;-)

But yeah, I've kind of grown up to expect bad luck after good, so it
can't be that localised a thing really. Perhaps it's simply that a
minor setback seems larger after something good?

>
>> >but aren't these things s'posed to come in
>> >threes?
>>
>> Allegedly we won a PS3 at the pictures the other week. That'd be
>> three. :-)
>
>Doesn't that depend on whether you consider winning a PS3 to be a Good
>Thing(tm) or not though? ;)

That's true. Hey, we don't usually win things, so that's fine by me.
Can sell it or get SingStar for it and annoy the neighbours. ;-)

>
>> >Hmmmm, s'pose the next question is the much mooted "why
>> >threes?"
>>
>> Indeedy.
>
>Summat to do with triangles being stronger, or some such, IIRC?

Hmm, yeah. Plus they don't tend to roll off down hills. Or something. 

>
>> >(flying visit, dunno when I'll be back 'cause still hate using
>> >Ggroups, and Pipex is still being an arse with their news server)
>>
>> Poo. German server? Motzarella? (can't remember if that one is free,
>> now)
>>
>
>Means paying for it though, and I don't see why I should when Pipex're
>s'posed to be giving us one as part of our ADSL package - just a shame
>the damn thing never works. 

Mm. Speak to a lot of support staff now too and they're like 'News...
*server*...?', which is a shame. 

>Besides, I don't think I'd ever convince
>Nick that paying for =extra= Internet access'd ever be a Good Thing -
>he thinks I spend too much time on here as it is. <g>

Heh. That's why I was trying to remember if Motzerella is free though.
<:-) There's a free Polish server but it can be a bit odd about
talking to the rest of the world sometimes. Fine for reading usually,
as long as you don't mind being invisible sometimes. :-/


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

[snip of stuff cos its getting long]
> >>
> >> >We have allotments but their locations scare me.
> >> >I have a fear of marauding gangs of chav lads.
> >>
> >> Do they maraud there a lot?
> >
> >Quite a bit yeah - we live in Chav-central and the allotments are all
near
> >big estates with a lot of social housing. They are pretty brazen here.
>
> Have they broken all the initiatives designed to give them something
> else to do?

Huh - just about. Thing is I worked on one of those initiatives out in the
woolly back villages (where they are chavvier than most!) and I realised
that no-one had asked the teens what THEY wanted. It was a bunch of
middle-aged middle-class types deciding what was 'good' for them. Without a
sense of ownership of a project disaffected teens have no incentive to
protect 'whats theirs'. Besides they enjoy excessive drinking, drug abuse
and violence. The ones I've asked actually like this behaviour, they get a
buzz from it and are reluctant to try any new kind of buzz because they
would need to alter their world view rather radically to accept it.

>
> >
> >We're anticipating some problems with
> >> drunken teens because our site is in a park, but hopefully not too
> >> much and this is a remarkably chav-free area (there's a few who try it
> >> on, of course, but generally they're OK). There's usually someone else
> >> around on an allotment site anyway, plus you would have a useful
> >> variety of long sharp implements nearby if any gangs of chavs did hove
> >> into view. I'd have thought property damage and petty theft would be
> >> more of a problem than outright intimidation of tenants.
> >
> >Yeah damage and theft/burglary are bigger problems
>
> My mum's old allotment site, in the middle of one of those *very posh*
> bits of housing, had a big problem with shed break-ins and fires. Got
> to admire the roaming instinct of the common chav, I suppose, they're
> prepared to travel quite a way to cause mischief.

Hell yeah - my dad's in a posh bit but we get roaming gangs from the
surrounding estates robbing and causing shit.

>
> >and a lot of people have
> >given up trying to keep chickens etc cos there was a spate of attacks
> >(kicking them to death or ripping heads off and leaving the mess for the
> >allotment holder to find on their return).
>
> How charming. :-(
>
> >I find it all a bit off-putting so although it may be a more limited
option
> >with lack of space and poor light levels but the back yard and pots will
> >have to do.
>
> Tomato plants in the windowsills. Hanging baskets of lettuce and
> herbs, and edible flowers (they seem to be coming back into fashion,
> too). Compost bags of potatoes. Pots with fruit bushes. You may not
> have loads of light but they should be sheltered at least?

Indeed - I think it also comes down to checking my gardening books for what
would be suitable in light-limited spaces. I'm going to see if the flat roof
on the bathroom extension can be used if I put a suporting frame there -
probably more trouble than its worth mind.

>
> >
> >Jo
> >(who is maybe more paranoid than she needs to be, but once attacked twice
> >shy)
> >
>
> Oh completely. I know what you mean.

:-)

Jo

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:15:07 GMT, "Jo B"
 blethered:

>[snip of stuff cos its getting long]
>> >>
>> >> >We have allotments but their locations scare me.
>> >> >I have a fear of marauding gangs of chav lads.
>> >>
>> >> Do they maraud there a lot?
>> >
>> >Quite a bit yeah - we live in Chav-central and the allotments are all
>near
>> >big estates with a lot of social housing. They are pretty brazen here.
>>
>> Have they broken all the initiatives designed to give them something
>> else to do?
>
>Huh - just about. Thing is I worked on one of those initiatives out in the
>woolly back villages (where they are chavvier than most!) and I realised
>that no-one had asked the teens what THEY wanted. 

Yeah well. *sigh* There's a surprising amount of enthusiasm and
dedication in even the chavviest teen, if someone manages to hit upon
the thing they're interested in. 

>It was a bunch of
>middle-aged middle-class types deciding what was 'good' for them. Without a
>sense of ownership of a project disaffected teens have no incentive to
>protect 'whats theirs'. Besides they enjoy excessive drinking, drug abuse
>and violence. 

At the time, yeah. 

>The ones I've asked actually like this behaviour, they get a
>buzz from it and are reluctant to try any new kind of buzz because they
>would need to alter their world view rather radically to accept it.

Well if there's nothing else to do... <:-/ Hey, if they were just
going to go around punching each other that'd be OK by me, but it's
the numpties who decide weapons are good and that hassling bystanders
is alright who cause the damage. 

>
>>
>> >
>> >We're anticipating some problems with
>> >> drunken teens because our site is in a park, but hopefully not too
>> >> much and this is a remarkably chav-free area (there's a few who try it
>> >> on, of course, but generally they're OK). There's usually someone else
>> >> around on an allotment site anyway, plus you would have a useful
>> >> variety of long sharp implements nearby if any gangs of chavs did hove
>> >> into view. I'd have thought property damage and petty theft would be
>> >> more of a problem than outright intimidation of tenants.
>> >
>> >Yeah damage and theft/burglary are bigger problems
>>
>> My mum's old allotment site, in the middle of one of those *very posh*
>> bits of housing, had a big problem with shed break-ins and fires. Got
>> to admire the roaming instinct of the common chav, I suppose, they're
>> prepared to travel quite a way to cause mischief.
>
>Hell yeah - my dad's in a posh bit but we get roaming gangs from the
>surrounding estates robbing and causing shit.

My mum's house is in a dry area, basically a commuter suburb since
when it was built. They have a lane at the end of their block that
runs down to the riverbank, with a walkway to other streets and a
local park. Great place to go and drink and shout a lot, and it seems
to be getting progressively more hairy there. Used to be as dull as
ditchwater, great place for kids to grow up and all that. We're not
quite seeing the same thing here, but since there are hordes of kids
and a lot of olds there are going to be a *lot* of teens in a few
years time. I'm comforting myself with the thought that there's a good
chance I'll know a fair few of them, and I'm not above clipping those
I know round the ear if they get lippy. <g>

>
>>
>> >and a lot of people have
>> >given up trying to keep chickens etc cos there was a spate of attacks
>> >(kicking them to death or ripping heads off and leaving the mess for the
>> >allotment holder to find on their return).
>>
>> How charming. :-(
>>
>> >I find it all a bit off-putting so although it may be a more limited
>option
>> >with lack of space and poor light levels but the back yard and pots will
>> >have to do.
>>
>> Tomato plants in the windowsills. Hanging baskets of lettuce and
>> herbs, and edible flowers (they seem to be coming back into fashion,
>> too). Compost bags of potatoes. Pots with fruit bushes. You may not
>> have loads of light but they should be sheltered at least?
>
>Indeed - I think it also comes down to checking my gardening books for what
>would be suitable in light-limited spaces. 

Hmm. Considering some plants grow well while partially shaded by
others there may be more than there seems. 

>I'm going to see if the flat roof
>on the bathroom extension can be used if I put a suporting frame there -
>probably more trouble than its worth mind.

Might be. Is there a window above your extension or would you need to
go up a ladder to get to the plants?

While we're on plants again, anyone know how to care for poinsettias?
I bought one as a gift and it's throwing off its leaves in an alarming
manner. The green ones all fell off, the red ones are limp and sad
looking. Has the plant had it totally?

<snip>

-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

Halla wrote:
> 
> Poo. German server? Motzarella? (can't remember if that one is free,
> now)

I'm using Motzarella and it's still free :o)

-- 
Caroline
There is no such thing as a snooze button on a cat that wants breakfast.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:13:06 +0000 (UTC), "Caroline Jones"
 blethered:

>Halla wrote:
>> 
>> Poo. German server? Motzarella? (can't remember if that one is free,
>> now)
>
>I'm using Motzarella and it's still free :o)

Hurrah! There we go then. :-) Had any issues with it?


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

Halla wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:13:06 +0000 (UTC), "Caroline Jones"
>  blethered:
> 
> > Halla wrote:
> >> 
> >> Poo. German server? Motzarella? (can't remember if that one is
> free, >> now)
> > 
> > I'm using Motzarella and it's still free :o)
> 
> Hurrah! There we go then. :-) Had any issues with it?

Nope, none at all :o)

-- 
Caroline
There is no such thing as a snooze button on a cat that wants breakfast.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:42:37 +0000 (UTC), "Caroline Jones"
 blethered:

>Halla wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:13:06 +0000 (UTC), "Caroline Jones"
>>  blethered:
>> 
>> > Halla wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Poo. German server? Motzarella? (can't remember if that one is
>> free, >> now)
>> > 
>> > I'm using Motzarella and it's still free :o)
>> 
>> Hurrah! There we go then. :-) Had any issues with it?
>
>Nope, none at all :o)

I may well move too when the German server subscription comes up for
renewal, every year I end up scrabbling around for my BT Click&Buy
details. It's the only thing I pay with that, and I always misplace
the password. <:-/


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."

In urp, Caroline Jones  wrote in response to Halla's reply to her previous 
post:
<snip>
>>> I'm using Motzarella and it's still free :o)
>>
>> Hurrah! There we go then. :-) Had any issues with it?
>
> Nope, none at all :o)

Thank you for that, details passed on to a friend looking for a text 
newswerver.

> There is no such thing as a snooze button on a cat that wants breakfast.

You've noticed that as well :~)

Jymn

>> I wrote:
>Jymn wrote:
 
> > There is no such thing as a snooze button on a cat that wants
> > breakfast.
> 
> You've noticed that as well :~)

This is a fair approximation of what mine does in the morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMXCuW9LDps

(the animator HAS to own a cat!) - however she's also worked out that
if she sits on the squishiest bit of my stomach and faces my toes she's
in exactly the right spot to pummel my bladder, which usually gets me
out of bed pretty quickly!

-- 
Caroline
There is no such thing as a snooze button on a cat that wants breakfast.

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:02:43 +0000 (UTC), "Caroline Jones"
 blethered:

>>> I wrote:
>>Jymn wrote:
> 
>> > There is no such thing as a snooze button on a cat that wants
>> > breakfast.
>> 
>> You've noticed that as well :~)
>
>This is a fair approximation of what mine does in the morning:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMXCuW9LDps
>

I love that. Round here we have taken to saying 'mow' when we're
hungry. <g>

>(the animator HAS to own a cat!) - however she's also worked out that
>if she sits on the squishiest bit of my stomach and faces my toes she's
>in exactly the right spot to pummel my bladder, which usually gets me
>out of bed pretty quickly!

Clever one, that cat.

I played the cat here some of the other videos, the ones called
'psycho cat' and the like. He nearly raised an ear. 


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."