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date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:31:08 +0000,    group: uk.religion.pagan        back       
[ot] Unusual article to find in the FT?   
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8357b9a2-86b4-11dc-a3ff-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=97bf8838-6de7-11dc-b8ab-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1
or http://tinyurl.com/2eak25

I've posted it here because it tied in with a train of thought (to
mash metaphors) I've been on about joined-up thinking. I've also been
thinking that I don't like the phrase 'joined-up thinking' and that a
nice alternative might be 'grown-up thinking'. <g> 

But anyway. Nicely serendipitous that this article was quoted
somewhere as I was thinking about that sort of thing, although not in
a business context. 


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."
date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:31:08 +0000   author:   Halla

Re: [ot] Unusual article to find in the FT?   
In urp, Halla  wrote:
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8357b9a2-86b4-11dc-a3ff-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=97bf8838-6de7-11dc-b8ab-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1
> or http://tinyurl.com/2eak25

Interesting essay, thank you.
Particularly liked the ending
"So: once you've finished reading this magazine, pick up an improving book. 
Play that CD you still haven't got round to. Talk (and listen) to members of 
your family. Go for a walk and take a proper look around you. Stop thinking 
about work for just a couple of hours at least.
It is time, ladies and gentlemen, to Get a Life. Your business career 
matters hugely, I know, but it isn't everything. Understanding that will 
probably make you a better business person in any case."


> I've posted it here because it tied in with a train of
> thought (to mash metaphors) I've been on about joined-up
> thinking. I've also been thinking that I don't like the
> phrase 'joined-up thinking' and that a nice alternative might
> be 'grown-up thinking'. <g>

Does that mean I've got to grow up?

> But anyway. Nicely serendipitous that this article was quoted
> somewhere as I was thinking about that sort of thing,
> although not in a business context.

The point of the essay being to broaden focus. not be narrow minded, why not 
add business contexts to those you were already considering <eg>

Jymn
date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:21:26 -0000   author:   Jymn

Re: [ot] Unusual article to find in the FT?   
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:21:26 -0000, "Jymn" 
blethered:

>In urp, Halla  wrote:
>> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8357b9a2-86b4-11dc-a3ff-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=97bf8838-6de7-11dc-b8ab-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1
>> or http://tinyurl.com/2eak25
>
>Interesting essay, thank you.
>Particularly liked the ending
>"So: once you've finished reading this magazine, pick up an improving book. 
>Play that CD you still haven't got round to. Talk (and listen) to members of 
>your family. Go for a walk and take a proper look around you. Stop thinking 
>about work for just a couple of hours at least.
>It is time, ladies and gentlemen, to Get a Life. Your business career 
>matters hugely, I know, but it isn't everything. Understanding that will 
>probably make you a better business person in any case."
>

I thought that ending was sort of trite. OK, it was a business
article, and OK it would be mostly business folk who would read it,
but still... dunno. 'Change your life to be a better person, but
you'll be a better person at what you already do!' style of fing.

It could equally apply to most people, I think. There must be things
that we all think 'oh, I'll get round to it...' or 'someday I will...'
about.

>
>> I've posted it here because it tied in with a train of
>> thought (to mash metaphors) I've been on about joined-up
>> thinking. I've also been thinking that I don't like the
>> phrase 'joined-up thinking' and that a nice alternative might
>> be 'grown-up thinking'. <g>
>
>Does that mean I've got to grow up?

No. Nononono. <g> I don't think one requires the other. ;-)

>
>> But anyway. Nicely serendipitous that this article was quoted
>> somewhere as I was thinking about that sort of thing,
>> although not in a business context.
>
>The point of the essay being to broaden focus. not be narrow minded, why not 
>add business contexts to those you were already considering <eg>

Indeed. <g>


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."
date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:26:55 +0000   author:   Halla

Re: [ot] Unusual article to find in the FT?   
In urp, Halla  wrote in response to Jymn:
<snip>
>> Particularly liked the ending
>> "So: once you've finished reading this magazine, pick up an
>> improving book. Play that CD you still haven't got round to.
>> Talk (and listen) to members of your family. Go for a walk
>> and take a proper look around you. Stop thinking about work
>> for just a couple of hours at least.
>> It is time, ladies and gentlemen, to Get a Life. Your
>> business career matters hugely, I know, but it isn't
>> everything. Understanding that will probably make you a
>> better business person in any case."

> I thought that ending was sort of trite. OK, it was a business
> article, and OK it would be mostly business folk who would
> read it, but still... dunno. 'Change your life to be a better
> person, but you'll be a better person at what you already
> do!' style of fing.

It seems to many business types can't see anything beyond the business 
focus, and many ofthose who can seem frightened to risk stepping beyond it 
in the fear that they'll be overtaken by more focussed types. Simple 
reminders in something like the FT might just be the push they need.

> It could equally apply to most people, I think. There must be
> things that we all think 'oh, I'll get round to it...' or
> 'someday I will...' about.

Very much so.
(and is this where I plead guilty?}


>>> I've posted it here because it tied in with a train of
>>> thought (to mash metaphors) I've been on about joined-up
>>> thinking. I've also been thinking that I don't like the
>>> phrase 'joined-up thinking' and that a nice alternative
>>> might be 'grown-up thinking'. <g>
>>
>> Does that mean I've got to grow up?
>
> No. Nononono. <g> I don't think one requires the other. ;-)

<fx big sigh of relief>
Good, I'm nly just learning how not to be a grown up.

 >>> But anyway. Nicely serendipitous that this article was
>>> quoted somewhere as I was thinking about that sort of thing,
>>> although not in a business context.
>>
>> The point of the essay being to broaden focus. not be narrow
>> minded, why not add business contexts to those you were
>> already considering <eg>
>
> Indeed. <g>

:~)

Jymn
date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:55:05 -0000   author:   Jymn

Re: [ot] Unusual article to find in the FT?   
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:55:05 -0000, "Jymn" 
blethered:

>In urp, Halla  wrote in response to Jymn:
><snip>
>>> Particularly liked the ending
>>> "So: once you've finished reading this magazine, pick up an
>>> improving book. Play that CD you still haven't got round to.
>>> Talk (and listen) to members of your family. Go for a walk
>>> and take a proper look around you. Stop thinking about work
>>> for just a couple of hours at least.
>>> It is time, ladies and gentlemen, to Get a Life. Your
>>> business career matters hugely, I know, but it isn't
>>> everything. Understanding that will probably make you a
>>> better business person in any case."
>
>> I thought that ending was sort of trite. OK, it was a business
>> article, and OK it would be mostly business folk who would
>> read it, but still... dunno. 'Change your life to be a better
>> person, but you'll be a better person at what you already
>> do!' style of fing.
>
>It seems to many business types can't see anything beyond the business 
>focus, and many ofthose who can seem frightened to risk stepping beyond it 
>in the fear that they'll be overtaken by more focussed types. Simple 
>reminders in something like the FT might just be the push they need.
>

To be fair though the relevent phrases eg. 'business person' could
have been removed and replaced with just about any other phrase and
the article would sound much the same. :-)

>> It could equally apply to most people, I think. There must be
>> things that we all think 'oh, I'll get round to it...' or
>> 'someday I will...' about.
>
>Very much so.
>(and is this where I plead guilty?}

Well, when you feel like it. ;-) I know I'm really bad at that too.
Lack of tuits, etc., and other such excuses. <;-/ 

>
>
>>>> I've posted it here because it tied in with a train of
>>>> thought (to mash metaphors) I've been on about joined-up
>>>> thinking. I've also been thinking that I don't like the
>>>> phrase 'joined-up thinking' and that a nice alternative
>>>> might be 'grown-up thinking'. <g>
>>>
>>> Does that mean I've got to grow up?
>>
>> No. Nononono. <g> I don't think one requires the other. ;-)
>
><fx big sigh of relief>
>Good, I'm nly just learning how not to be a grown up.

Heh.

<snip>


-- 
"I can still see her face at thirty.
When will I be most myself?
I thought I'd always be their child.
In my sleep it's never winter."
date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:17:13 +0000   author:   Halla

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