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date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:30:45 +0100,    group: uk.religion.christian        back       
Virtual communities?   
This has taken a little time to get here[1]... I spent around 4 years
quite a few years ago as a member of the Scargill community - which
ran a Christian conference centre in the Yorkshire dales.

It has recently announced its closure - somewhat abruptly - and is
moving to a virtual community (see http://scargillhouse.co.uk/ )

       50 years ago in a notionally Christian society, those values
       were best expressed by coming away from the hustle and bustle
       and reflecting on the world. In the 21st century post modern
       world, those values can best be expressed by engaging with
       projects within our urban and rural communities. The new
       Foundation is an opportunity to do precisely that and I am very
       excited at the path we have decided to take

There's inevitably been recriminations and a save scargill site
http://savescargill.wordpress.com/ has appeared

This is encroaching on Debbie's thesis but in view of the wide thumbs
down - at least in terms of existing Scargill supports to the virtual
community idea - I wondered to what extent this newsgroup's virtual
community can model what the exsiting scargill trustees see as their
vision for scargill and to what extent the virtual community is too
weak to offer the vision and support whaich the centre used to provide

Robert

[1] not least because news.individual.net or the moderbot appears to
    have eaten the first version
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date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:30:45 +0100   author:   Robert Marshall

Re: Virtual communities?   
Robert Marshall  wrote:

>This has taken a little time to get here[1]... I spent around 4 years
>quite a few years ago as a member of the Scargill community - which
>ran a Christian conference centre in the Yorkshire dales.
>
>It has recently announced its closure - somewhat abruptly - and is
>moving to a virtual community (see http://scargillhouse.co.uk/ )

Do you know who is expected to buy the wonderfully located premises? I
thought (wrongly it seems) that they were owned by the Bradford diocese.

Alan
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:38:05 +0100   author:   Alan Zanker

Re: Virtual communities?   
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Alan Zanker wrote:

> Robert Marshall  wrote:
> 
>>This has taken a little time to get here[1]... I spent around 4
>>years quite a few years ago as a member of the Scargill community -
>>which ran a Christian conference centre in the Yorkshire dales.
>>
>>It has recently announced its closure - somewhat abruptly - and is
>>moving to a virtual community (see http://scargillhouse.co.uk/ )
> 
> Do you know who is expected to buy the wonderfully located premises?
> I thought (wrongly it seems) that they were owned by the Bradford
> diocese.
> 

It is owned by the trustees - I think they have no idea who is likely
to buy the site - especially in the current economic situation. I
spoke to one member of community when I was there in July and we could
only see a hotel wanting a base for wedding with a splendid place to
carry them out as a possible buyer.

Cards are being held very close to the chest - I assume for financial
reasons. The save-scargill discussions have mooted Lee Abbey but I
can't see it taking less than £6 million to buy and modernise the site
(it needs a lot of bringing up to date)

Robert
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Links and things http://rmstar.blogspot.com/
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:02:21 +0100   author:   Robert Marshall

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