I commend Pres. Bush (I know, I know) for inviting the Dalai Lama to the 
White House next week  : 
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-10-11T183943Z_01_N11420320_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-DALAILAMA.xml .

-- 
Allan
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e-mail).
          Se ruega contestar a traves del grupo noticiero (y no enviar 
e-mail).

"Allan"  wrote in message 
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>I commend Pres. Bush (I know, I know) for inviting the Dalai Lama to the 
>White House next week  : 
>http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-10-11T183943Z_01_N11420320_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-DALAILAMA.xml .
>
> -- 
> Allan
> note :  Thank you in advance for posting your reply to NG (not by sending 
> e-mail).
>          Se ruega contestar a traves del grupo noticiero (y no enviar 
> e-mail).
At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with 
President Bush officiating : (audio file available for download)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/10/print/20071017-3.html . 
Sorry for replying to my own post as an addendum .

In article ,
 "Allan"  wrote:

> At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with 
> President Bush officiating

Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom. 

The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional 
Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor: 

It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who 
distinguishes himself "Šconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at 
the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in 
an action against an enemy of the United StatesŠ" Because of its nature, 
the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.

The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian 
honor:

It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially 
meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the 
United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or 
private endeavors."

(both quotes are from Wikipedia)


--sivananda

-- 
Om Shanti Shanti Shanti

On 19 Oct, 05:02, sivananda  wrote:
> In article ,
>
>  "Allan"  wrote:
> > At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
> > President Bush officiating
>
> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>
> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>
> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
> distinguishes himself "Šconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
> an action against an enemy of the United StatesŠ" Because of its nature,
> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>
> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
> honor:
>
> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
> private endeavors."

wHATEVER THE MEDALS REAL NAMKE

On 19 Oct, 05:02, sivananda  wrote:
> In article ,
>
>  "Allan"  wrote:
> > At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
> > President Bush officiating
>
> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>
> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>
> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
> distinguishes himself "Šconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
> an action against an enemy of the United StatesŠ" Because of its nature,
> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>
> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
> honor:
>
> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
> private endeavors."

What the medal is really called is irrelevant.
What is relevant is that it was awarded out of gratitude for services
rendered to the CIA. The DL has been a paid agent of the CIA
for many years.

http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/sep/16us.htm

-- 
Katherine
"sivananda"  wrote in message 
news:maha.mrtyunjaya-A23AA3.00022919102007@reader1.panix.com...
> In article ,
> "Allan"  wrote:
>
>> At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
>> President Bush officiating
>
> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>
> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>
> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
> distinguishes himself "Sconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
> an action against an enemy of the United StatesS" Because of its nature,
> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>
> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
> honor:
>
> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
> private endeavors."
>
> (both quotes are from Wikipedia)
>
>
> --sivananda
>
> -- 
> Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
Thanks, I am militarily-challenged and so I confounded those two awards. I 
think some news reports did describe the award as "congressional" rather 
than "presidential" , incorrectly as you point out.

"sivananda"  wrote in message 
news:maha.mrtyunjaya-A23AA3.00022919102007@reader1.panix.com...
> In article ,
> "Allan"  wrote:
>
>> At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
>> President Bush officiating
>
> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>
> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>
> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
> distinguishes himself "Šconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
> an action against an enemy of the United StatesŠ" Because of its nature,
> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>
> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
> honor:
>
> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
> private endeavors."
>
> (both quotes are from Wikipedia)
>
>
> --sivananda
>
> -- 
> Om Shanti Shanti Shanti
You are of course correct, it was my error to call it the "Congressional 
Medal of Honor". Whether it is presidential or congressional, the ceremony 
was conducted at Congress, not the WH.

"Julian"  wrote in message 
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On 19 Oct, 05:02, sivananda  wrote:
> In article ,
>
>  "Allan"  wrote:
> > At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
> > President Bush officiating
>
> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>
> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>
> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
> distinguishes himself "Sconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
> an action against an enemy of the United StatesS" Because of its nature,
> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>
> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
> honor:
>
> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
> private endeavors."

What the medal is really called is irrelevant.
What is relevant is that it was awarded out of gratitude for services
rendered to the CIA. The DL has been a paid agent of the CIA
for many years.

http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/sep/16us.htm

So what? The CIA has supported the Kurds in Iraq as well as the Tibetan 
independence movement. They also employed the Hmong people in Laos or 
northern Thailand. China does not need to engage the Dalai Lama or even the 
U.S. in order to resolve the problem of the Tibetan "minority" population, 
but they have not done so. If we are in such a big hurry to declare Kosova 
independent, why ignore Tibet?

"Allan"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Julian"  wrote in message 
> news:1192798451.930012.124970@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On 19 Oct, 05:02, sivananda  wrote:
>> In article ,
>>
>>  "Allan"  wrote:
>> > At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
>> > President Bush officiating
>>
>> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>>
>> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
>> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>>
>> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
>> distinguishes himself "Sconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
>> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
>> an action against an enemy of the United StatesS" Because of its nature,
>> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>>
>> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
>> honor:
>>
>> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
>> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
>> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
>> private endeavors."
>
> What the medal is really called is irrelevant.
> What is relevant is that it was awarded out of gratitude for services
> rendered to the CIA. The DL has been a paid agent of the CIA
> for many years.
>
> http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/sep/16us.htm
>
> So what? The CIA has supported the Kurds in Iraq as well as the Tibetan 
> independence movement. They also employed the Hmong people in Laos or 
> northern Thailand. China does not need to engage the Dalai Lama or even 
> the U.S. in order to resolve the problem of the Tibetan "minority" 
> population, but they have not done so. If we are in such a big hurry to 
> declare Kosova independent, why ignore Tibet?

We?

Please define your constituency.

"Julian"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> "Allan"  wrote in message 
> news:13hhts37t5kq1f3@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Julian"  wrote in message 
>> news:1192798451.930012.124970@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On 19 Oct, 05:02, sivananda  wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>>
>>>  "Allan"  wrote:
>>> > At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
>>> > President Bush officiating
>>>
>>> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>>>
>>> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
>>> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>>>
>>> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
>>> distinguishes himself "Sconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
>>> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
>>> an action against an enemy of the United StatesS" Because of its nature,
>>> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>>>
>>> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
>>> honor:
>>>
>>> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
>>> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
>>> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
>>> private endeavors."
>>
>> What the medal is really called is irrelevant.
>> What is relevant is that it was awarded out of gratitude for services
>> rendered to the CIA. The DL has been a paid agent of the CIA
>> for many years.
>>
>> http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/sep/16us.htm
>>
>> So what? The CIA has supported the Kurds in Iraq as well as the Tibetan 
>> independence movement. They also employed the Hmong people in Laos or 
>> northern Thailand. China does not need to engage the Dalai Lama or even 
>> the U.S. in order to resolve the problem of the Tibetan "minority" 
>> population, but they have not done so. If we are in such a big hurry to 
>> declare Kosova independent, why ignore Tibet?
>
> We?
>
> Please define your constituency.
"We" or "they" (since I am certainly not a partisan of the partition 
proposal) deem it an urgent matter to resolve an issue that was last settled 
in 1452 (A.D.) at Pristina .
In contrast, the Tibet question is only slightly more than half a century 
old since around the Korean war time . With all the social problems that 
China has it should not blame Tibet for causing trouble within its borders. 
Ironically enough many young Chinese have become interested in Buddhist 
traditions, as opposed to more politically acceptable Confucian ones.

"Allan"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Julian"  wrote in message 
> news:yImdnTlejMoQEoTanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> "Allan"  wrote in message 
>> news:13hhts37t5kq1f3@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>> "Julian"  wrote in message 
>>> news:1192798451.930012.124970@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 19 Oct, 05:02, sivananda  wrote:
>>>> In article ,
>>>>
>>>>  "Allan"  wrote:
>>>> > At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
>>>> > President Bush officiating
>>>>
>>>> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>>>>
>>>> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
>>>> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>>>>
>>>> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
>>>> distinguishes himself "Sconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
>>>> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in
>>>> an action against an enemy of the United StatesS" Because of its 
>>>> nature,
>>>> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>>>>
>>>> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
>>>> honor:
>>>>
>>>> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
>>>> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
>>>> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
>>>> private endeavors."
>>>
>>> What the medal is really called is irrelevant.
>>> What is relevant is that it was awarded out of gratitude for services
>>> rendered to the CIA. The DL has been a paid agent of the CIA
>>> for many years.
>>>
>>> http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/sep/16us.htm
>>>
>>> So what? The CIA has supported the Kurds in Iraq as well as the Tibetan 
>>> independence movement. They also employed the Hmong people in Laos or 
>>> northern Thailand. China does not need to engage the Dalai Lama or even 
>>> the U.S. in order to resolve the problem of the Tibetan "minority" 
>>> population, but they have not done so. If we are in such a big hurry to 
>>> declare Kosova independent, why ignore Tibet?
>>
>> We?
>>
>> Please define your constituency.
> "We" or "they" (since I am certainly not a partisan of the partition 
> proposal) deem it an urgent matter to resolve an issue that was last 
> settled in 1452 (A.D.) at Pristina .
> In contrast, the Tibet question is only slightly more than half a century 
> old since around the Korean war time . With all the social problems that 
> China has it should not blame Tibet for causing trouble within its 
> borders. Ironically enough many young Chinese have become interested in 
> Buddhist traditions, as opposed to more politically acceptable Confucian 
> ones.

Clear as mud.

"Julian"  wrote in message 
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>
>
> "Allan"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Julian"  wrote in message 
>> news:yImdnTlejMoQEoTanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Allan"  wrote in message 
>>> news:13hhts37t5kq1f3@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Julian"  wrote in message 
>>>> news:1192798451.930012.124970@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On 19 Oct, 05:02, sivananda  wrote:
>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>
>>>>>  "Allan"  wrote:
>>>>> > At the U.S. Congress the Dalai Lama received the Medal of Honor with
>>>>> > President Bush officiating
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually HH the Dalai Lama received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Medal of Honor (often incorrectly referred to as the Congressional
>>>>> Medal of Honor) is the USA's highest _military_ honor:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is bestowed on a member of the United States armed forces who
>>>>> distinguishes himself "Sconspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at
>>>>> the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged 
>>>>> in
>>>>> an action against an enemy of the United StatesS" Because of its 
>>>>> nature,
>>>>> the medal is commonly awarded posthumously.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the country's highest civilian
>>>>> honor:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is designed to recognize individuals who have made "an especially
>>>>> meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the
>>>>> United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or
>>>>> private endeavors."
>>>>
>>>> What the medal is really called is irrelevant.
>>>> What is relevant is that it was awarded out of gratitude for services
>>>> rendered to the CIA. The DL has been a paid agent of the CIA
>>>> for many years.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/sep/16us.htm
>>>>
>>>> So what? The CIA has supported the Kurds in Iraq as well as the Tibetan 
>>>> independence movement. They also employed the Hmong people in Laos or 
>>>> northern Thailand. China does not need to engage the Dalai Lama or even 
>>>> the U.S. in order to resolve the problem of the Tibetan "minority" 
>>>> population, but they have not done so. If we are in such a big hurry to 
>>>> declare Kosova independent, why ignore Tibet?
>>>
>>> We?
>>>
>>> Please define your constituency.
>> "We" or "they" (since I am certainly not a partisan of the partition 
>> proposal) deem it an urgent matter to resolve an issue that was last 
>> settled in 1452 (A.D.) at Pristina .
>> In contrast, the Tibet question is only slightly more than half a century 
>> old since around the Korean war time . With all the social problems that 
>> China has it should not blame Tibet for causing trouble within its 
>> borders. Ironically enough many young Chinese have become interested in 
>> Buddhist traditions, as opposed to more politically acceptable Confucian 
>> ones.
>
> Clear as mud.
Sorry for "preaching to the choir". If you support Kosova independence we 
simply disagree and it has nothing directly to do with China's invasion of 
Tibet half a century ago.