"roky"  wrote
>  liaM 
:
>> > The only way to know the difference between life and death is to
>> > transcend the Ego in Enlightenment. It is said that at the moment of
>> > physical death there exists the possibility to transcend the Ego and
>> > become Englightend.
>>
>> > Rokysh
>>
>> Sorry roky.. U're asking to know the unknowable.  Your fingers
>> are much too thick to grasp, let alone, pick up such evanescent
>> subjects.  So there you go pushing concepts around senselessly !
>
> You are defeated by your own lies! The unknowable is not known but
> intuited. I was reborn through intuition. Rebirth is a form of
> Enlightenment.
> Born once,twice, three times again.-G Vidal.
> Rokyshi
>

The Buddha-mind, unborn and illuminating all things with perfect clarity, is 
like a mirror, standing clear and spotlessly polished. A mirror, as you 
know, reflects anything that's before it. Whatever's placed in front of it, 
the shape never fails to be reflected, though the mirror has no idea or 
intention of doing so. And when the object is taken away, the mirror doesn't 
reflect it any longer, though it makes no decision to cease reflecting.

Now that's just how the unborn Buddha-mind works. You see and hear all 
things, no matter what they are, although you haven't generated a single 
thought to see or hear them, because of the vital working of the unborn 
Buddha-mind each of you receives at birth.

Once you've got the principle of this Unborn fixed in your minds, you're 
Unborn whether you're a man or a woman. You are always unborn. You go along 
living in the Buddha-mind quite unconscious of being a man or woman.

Although you each have Buddha-minds, you've deprived yourselves of them 
because of the mistaken way that you've been brought up. A lifetime of 
learning the wrong things. You still have a Buddha-mind, for all the bad 
things you've learned and the delusions your thoughts create for you. You 
can't possibly lose it. It's just darkened by the illusions caused by your 
selfish desires and partiality.

Perhaps a comparison will help make this clear.

The sun shines day after day without fail, yet if clouds appear to make the 
sky overcast, it can't be seen. It still comes up in the east every morning 
and goes down in the west. The only difference is that you can't see it 
because it's hidden behind the clouds. The sun is your Buddha-mind, the 
clouds are your illusions. You are unaware of your Buddha-minds because they're 
covered by illusions and can't be seen. But you never lose them, not even 
when you go to sleep.

The unborn Buddha-mind that your mothers have given you is thus always 
there, wonderfully clear and bright and illuminating.

- Bankei Yoakum (1622-1693)

"Julian"  wrote in message 
news:ovGdnULaC9YFqEfbnZ2dnUVZ8qijnZ2d@bt.com...
> "roky"  wrote
>>  liaM 
> :
>>> > The only way to know the difference between life and death is to
>>> > transcend the Ego in Enlightenment. It is said that at the 
>>> > moment of
>>> > physical death there exists the possibility to transcend the Ego 
>>> > and
>>> > become Englightend.
>>>
>>> > Rokysh
>>>
>>> Sorry roky.. U're asking to know the unknowable.  Your fingers
>>> are much too thick to grasp, let alone, pick up such evanescent
>>> subjects.  So there you go pushing concepts around senselessly !
>>
>> You are defeated by your own lies! The unknowable is not known but
>> intuited. I was reborn through intuition. Rebirth is a form of
>> Enlightenment.
>> Born once,twice, three times again.-G Vidal.
>> Rokyshi
>>
>
> The Buddha-mind, unborn and illuminating all things with perfect 
> clarity, is like a mirror, standing clear and spotlessly polished. A 
> mirror, as you know, reflects anything that's before it. Whatever's 
> placed in front of it, the shape never fails to be reflected, though 
> the mirror has no idea or intention of doing so. And when the object 
> is taken away, the mirror doesn't reflect it any longer, though it 
> makes no decision to cease reflecting.
>
> Now that's just how the unborn Buddha-mind works. You see and hear 
> all things, no matter what they are, although you haven't generated 
> a single thought to see or hear them, because of the vital working 
> of the unborn Buddha-mind each of you receives at birth.
>
> Once you've got the principle of this Unborn fixed in your minds, 
> you're Unborn whether you're a man or a woman. You are always 
> unborn. You go along living in the Buddha-mind quite unconscious of 
> being a man or woman.
>
> Although you each have Buddha-minds, you've deprived yourselves of 
> them because of the mistaken way that you've been brought up. A 
> lifetime of learning the wrong things. You still have a Buddha-mind, 
> for all the bad things you've learned and the delusions your 
> thoughts create for you. You can't possibly lose it. It's just 
> darkened by the illusions caused by your selfish desires and 
> partiality.
>
> Perhaps a comparison will help make this clear.
>
> The sun shines day after day without fail, yet if clouds appear to 
> make the sky overcast, it can't be seen. It still comes up in the 
> east every morning and goes down in the west. The only difference is 
> that you can't see it because it's hidden behind the clouds. The sun 
> is your Buddha-mind, the clouds are your illusions. You are unaware 
> of your Buddha-minds because they're covered by illusions and can't 
> be seen. But you never lose them, not even when you go to sleep.
>
> The unborn Buddha-mind that your mothers have given you is thus 
> always there, wonderfully clear and bright and illuminating.
>
> - Bankei Yoakum (1622-1693)

You got that right!

Karma Namdag (Refuge name of Spencer Spindrift in Kagupa Sect)

Julian wrote:

> The Buddha-mind, unborn and illuminating all things with perfect clarity, is
> like a mirror, standing clear and spotlessly polished. A mirror, as you
> know, reflects anything that's before it. Whatever's placed in front of it,
> the shape never fails to be reflected, though the mirror has no idea or
> intention of doing so. And when the object is taken away, the mirror doesn't
> reflect it any longer, though it makes no decision to cease reflecting.
>
> Now that's just how the unborn Buddha-mind works. You see and hear all
> things, no matter what they are, although you haven't generated a single
> thought to see or hear them, because of the vital working of the unborn
> Buddha-mind each of you receives at birth.
>
> Once you've got the principle of this Unborn fixed in your minds, you're
> Unborn whether you're a man or a woman. You are always unborn. You go along
> living in the Buddha-mind quite unconscious of being a man or woman.
>
> Although you each have Buddha-minds, you've deprived yourselves of them
> because of the mistaken way that you've been brought up. A lifetime of
> learning the wrong things. You still have a Buddha-mind, for all the bad
> things you've learned and the delusions your thoughts create for you. You
> can't possibly lose it. It's just darkened by the illusions caused by your
> selfish desires and partiality.
>
> Perhaps a comparison will help make this clear.
>
> The sun shines day after day without fail, yet if clouds appear to make the
> sky overcast, it can't be seen. It still comes up in the east every morning
> and goes down in the west. The only difference is that you can't see it
> because it's hidden behind the clouds. The sun is your Buddha-mind, the
> clouds are your illusions. You are unaware of your Buddha-minds because they're
> covered by illusions and can't be seen. But you never lose them, not even
> when you go to sleep.
>
> The unborn Buddha-mind that your mothers have given you is thus always
> there, wonderfully clear and bright and illuminating.
>
> - Bankei Yoakum (1622-1693)

<<MARXISM has a two-fold bearing on science.
In the first place Marxists study science among
other human activities. They show how the scientific
activities of any society depend on its changing needs,
and so in the long run on its productive methods, and
how science changes the productive methods, and
therefore the whole society. This analysis is needed
for any scientific approach to history, and even
non-Marxists are now accepting parts of it. But
secondly Marx and Engels were not content to analyse
the changes in society. In dialectics they saw the
science of the general laws of change, not only in
society and in human thought, but in the external
world which is mirrored by human thought. That is to
say it can be applied to problems of "pure" science as
well as to the social relations of science.>>

J B S Haldane, Preface to Engels' _Dialectics of
Nature_, 1939.

http://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1883/don/
preface.htm

Notice: "in the external world which is mirrored by
human thought". There is not even inversion of the
image.

Tang Huyen