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date: 13 Mar 2009 18:27:01 GMT,    group: uk.net.web.authoring        back       
Getting a 'parked' .co.uk website for a UK Ltd co of the same name   
There is a 'parked' .co.uk website registered to an company in Turkey
which would be interesting to a recently incorporated UK Ltd company
of the same name.

The single page has a few related links to other sites and a 'this
website is for sale' contact.

Out of interest I contacted them and received the farcical offer of
the site for $2800.  Hardly!  The .org.uk address is available a the
moment and is appropriate. 

It was re-registered at the end of 2008, does a UK ltd company of the
same name have a likelihood of being able to "recover" this unused
site at next re-registration in 2010?

Thanks in advance for any relevant material / links
date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:00:21 +0000   author:   me here

Re: Getting a 'parked' .co.uk website for a UK Ltd co of the same name   
On Mar 4, 6:00 am, me here  wrote:
> There is a 'parked' .co.uk website registered to an company in Turkey
> which would be interesting to a recently incorporated UK Ltd company
> of the same name.
>
> The single page has a few related links to other sites and a 'this
> website is for sale' contact.
>
> Out of interest I contacted them and received the farcical offer of
> the site for $2800.  Hardly!  The .org.uk address is available a the
> moment and is appropriate.
>
> It was re-registered at the end of 2008, does a UK ltd company of the
> same name have a likelihood of being able to "recover" this unused
> site at next re-registration in 2010?
>
No, unless the other company let the domain expire.
Anyone can register a UK domain name as they are not restricted.
That is one of the major disadvantages of the un-restricted system, as
an example to get an au domain you need some kind of official number
such as an Australian  bizness number (ABN).

--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:34:57 -0800 (PST)   author:   Chaddy2222

Re: Getting a 'parked' .co.uk website for a UK Ltd co of the same name   
me here  writes:

> There is a 'parked' .co.uk website registered to an company in Turkey
> which would be interesting to a recently incorporated UK Ltd company
> of the same name.
>
> The single page has a few related links to other sites and a 'this
> website is for sale' contact.
>
> Out of interest I contacted them and received the farcical offer of
> the site for $2800.  Hardly!  The .org.uk address is available a the
> moment and is appropriate. 
>
> It was re-registered at the end of 2008, does a UK ltd company of the
> same name have a likelihood of being able to "recover" this unused
> site at next re-registration in 2010?

Not an expert, but (for reasons evidenced in another thread) I've been
looking into these things.  Your case is not dissimilar to several
that I read about to get a feel for what happens in the DRS.  For
example:

http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/drs/decisions/?contentId=5528

There are lots and one would have to read a lot to find one that is a
close match but it seems that transfer is often granted when the
registrant has no connection to the product/company in question and is
trying to "extort" an unduly high price.  It would certainly pay to
read a few more successful cases to see what seems to matter the most.

-- 
Ben.
date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:51:26 +0000   author:   Ben Bacarisse

Re: Getting a 'parked' .co.uk website for a UK Ltd co of the same name   
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:51:26 +0000, Ben Bacarisse
 wrote:

>Not an expert, but (for reasons evidenced in another thread) I've been
>looking into these things.  Your case is not dissimilar to several
>that I read about to get a feel for what happens in the DRS.  For
>example:
>
>http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/drs/decisions/?contentId=5528
>
> It would certainly pay to
>read a few more successful cases to see what seems to matter the most.


Thank you for that, that's the sort of thing I was trying to research.
I shall read more with interest!
date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:46:20 +0000   author:   me here

Re: Getting a 'parked' .co.uk website for a UK Ltd co of the same name   
me here  wrote:

> There is a 'parked' .co.uk website registered to an company in Turkey
> which would be interesting to a recently incorporated UK Ltd company
> of the same name.

If this is a normal private limited company, you can register the ltd.uk 
domain name instead, this has the advantage from a web presence pov that a 
ltd.uk domain is guaranteed to be the genuine website of the named company 
since Nominet vet the applications unlike co.uk which is a freeforall.
(Having said that I don't know how many people realise this or even know 
ltd.uk exists.)

See 
http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrants/aboutdomainnames/sld/ltd.ukandplc.uk/

As to the co.uk name, I don't know if you could grab it, you would need to 
read through the blurb on disputes at Nominet. If the Turkish company had 
some valid use for the name I doubt you could get it since co.uk is "first 
come first served".
date: 13 Mar 2009 17:31:14 GMT   author:   Marty Fremen lid

Re: Getting a 'parked' .co.uk website for a UK Ltd co of the same name   
me here  wrote:

> There is a 'parked' .co.uk website registered to an company in Turkey
> which would be interesting to a recently incorporated UK Ltd company
> of the same name.

Further to my last message, I just noticed the "recently incorporated" bit 
above. In that case you don't stand a chance because disputes hinge on 
whether the domain name was an abuse *at the time of registration*. Since 
your company presumably didn't exist then there is no grounds for 
complaint. 

As a general rule, you should ALWAYS make sure you register the domain name 
BEFORE finalising the company or product name, and if the desired name is 
already taken, well you'll just have to pick a different company or product 
name unless you can secure the purchase of the name first.
date: 13 Mar 2009 17:37:47 GMT   author:   Marty Fremen lid

user-updated content   
I knocked together a small site for someone in bog standard html/css on the 
assumption that it would have static content but now they want the ability 
to be able to upload news items to the homepage themselves. I'm wondering 
what is the best way of doing this without risking breaking the site. The 
site is hosted on Apache with the usual SSI, php and mysql available.

I would rather they just emailed me the stuff to be uploaded but they are 
very keen to do it themselves to streamline the process and minimise costs 
(ie. my time!).

One possibility I've considered is to give them access to a password 
protected wiki/bbs style webform into which they paste or type their 
articles, which is then converted into a html file by a php script on the 
server. The resultant text would then be injected into the homepage using 
PHP or SSI. 

However, I suspect they are not familiar with bbcode or wiki code and are 
probably thinking in terms of preparing their text in Word (which might 
suggest something like RTF -> HTML conversion might be better), or MS 
Publisher, which they are already using to make printed newsletters etc but 
which I know produces horrendous looking HTML.

Any suggestions?

If I go the webform route, are their any php scripts for this that people 
would recommend (esp ones that could convert RTF text might be nice.)
date: 13 Mar 2009 18:27:01 GMT   author:   Marty Fremen lid

Re: user-updated content   
If you have prepared the site using a template, you will have defined 
editable areas - the page content.  Giving the client an application such as 
Adobe Contribute will enable them to make changes (adding/editing text, 
images, links etc) only to those areas which you have defined as editable.


"Marty Fremen" <Marty@fremen.invalid> wrote in message 
news:Xns9BCDBBB083B65C9A6@212.23.3.119...
>I knocked together a small site for someone in bog standard html/css on the
> assumption that it would have static content but now they want the ability
> to be able to upload news items to the homepage themselves. I'm wondering
> what is the best way of doing this without risking breaking the site. The
> site is hosted on Apache with the usual SSI, php and mysql available.
>
> I would rather they just emailed me the stuff to be uploaded but they are
> very keen to do it themselves to streamline the process and minimise costs
> (ie. my time!).
>
> One possibility I've considered is to give them access to a password
> protected wiki/bbs style webform into which they paste or type their
> articles, which is then converted into a html file by a php script on the
> server. The resultant text would then be injected into the homepage using
> PHP or SSI.
>
> However, I suspect they are not familiar with bbcode or wiki code and are
> probably thinking in terms of preparing their text in Word (which might
> suggest something like RTF -> HTML conversion might be better), or MS
> Publisher, which they are already using to make printed newsletters etc 
> but
> which I know produces horrendous looking HTML.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> If I go the webform route, are their any php scripts for this that people
> would recommend (esp ones that could convert RTF text might be nice.)
date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:24:31 -0000   author:   Trent SC lid

Re: user-updated content   
On Mar 14, 10:24 pm, "Trent SC" <inva...@bogoff.invalid> wrote:
> If you have prepared the site using a template, you will have defined
> editable areas - the page content.  Giving the client an application such as
> Adobe Contribute will enable them to make changes (adding/editing text,
> images, links etc) only to those areas which you have defined as editable> "Marty Fremen" <Ma...@fremen.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns9BCDBBB083B65C9A6@212.23.3.119...
>
>
>
> >I knocked together a small site for someone in bog standard html/css on the
> > assumption that it would have static content but now they want the ability
> > to be able to upload news items to the homepage themselves. I'm wondering
> > what is the best way of doing this without risking breaking the site. The
> > site is hosted on Apache with the usual SSI, php and mysql available.
>
> > I would rather they just emailed me the stuff to be uploaded but they are
> > very keen to do it themselves to streamline the process and minimise costs
> > (ie. my time!).
>
> > One possibility I've considered is to give them access to a password
> > protected wiki/bbs style webform into which they paste or type their
> > articles, which is then converted into a html file by a php script on the
> > server. The resultant text would then be injected into the homepage using
> > PHP or SSI.
>
> > However, I suspect they are not familiar with bbcode or wiki code and are
> > probably thinking in terms of preparing their text in Word (which might
> > suggest something like RTF -> HTML conversion might be better), or MS
> > Publisher, which they are already using to make printed newsletters etc
> > but
> > which I know produces horrendous looking HTML.
>
> > Any suggestions?
>
> > If I go the webform route, are their any php scripts for this that people
> > would recommend (esp ones that could convert RTF text might be nice.)- Hide quoted text -
>
Take a look at Joomla, a CMS package that should do the job nicely,
you will just need to add your code in as a template.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:57:51 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Chaddy2222

Re: user-updated content   
On 13 Mar 2009 18:27:01 GMT, Marty Fremen <Marty@fremen.invalid> wrote:

>I knocked together a small site for someone in bog standard html/css on the 
>assumption that it would have static content but now they want the ability 
>to be able to upload news items to the homepage themselves. I'm wondering 
>what is the best way of doing this without risking breaking the site. The 
>site is hosted on Apache with the usual SSI, php and mysql available.
>
>I would rather they just emailed me the stuff to be uploaded but they are 
>very keen to do it themselves to streamline the process and minimise costs 
>(ie. my time!).
>
>One possibility I've considered is to give them access to a password 
>protected wiki/bbs style webform into which they paste or type their 
>articles, which is then converted into a html file by a php script on the 
>server. The resultant text would then be injected into the homepage using 
>PHP or SSI. 
>
>However, I suspect they are not familiar with bbcode or wiki code and are 
>probably thinking in terms of preparing their text in Word (which might 
>suggest something like RTF -> HTML conversion might be better), or MS 
>Publisher, which they are already using to make printed newsletters etc but 
>which I know produces horrendous looking HTML.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>If I go the webform route, are their any php scripts for this that people 
>would recommend (esp ones that could convert RTF text might be nice.)


I needed to do this and found Edit-Point to be easy to set up and simple to use.
date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:48:34 +0000   author:   barV

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