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date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:13:32 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.net.web.authoring        back       
too much or ok ?   
hi all, this is my first post in here and no idea of the standards you
lot set but more than happy for any constructive advice, bearing in
mind I'm not a web designer and just doing this for a friend...
she seems happy enough, but it's hard to tell if she's being honest or
just doesn't want to complain
do you think it's too much and/or would you change anything ?

the font she wants (monotype corsiva) I think is hard to read and not
a standard windows font
also setting an alt font is difficult as hers at 12pt is about the
same size as century gothic (and other standard windows) look at 8pt

http://www.mumsaway.co.uk/mum/index.php

thanks
date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:13:32 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Soweezy

Re: too much or ok ?   
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:13:32 -0700 (PDT), Soweezy put finger to
keyboard and typed:

>hi all, this is my first post in here and no idea of the standards you
>lot set but more than happy for any constructive advice, bearing in
>mind I'm not a web designer and just doing this for a friend...
>she seems happy enough, but it's hard to tell if she's being honest or
>just doesn't want to complain
>do you think it's too much and/or would you change anything ?

Visually it's quite nice and clean - it's effective for the type of
market it's aimed at.

Structurally, you'd be better off using CSS rather than tables for the
layout, especially since it's not too complex.

There are some typos on some pages - for example "Equal opertunities
and anti-descrimination" on policies.php.

>the font she wants (monotype corsiva) I think is hard to read and not
>a standard windows font

It's utterly pointless using a font that isn't going to be present on
the majority of user systems. You need to talk her out of that.

Mark
-- 
"There must be a place, under the sun, where hearts of olden 
glory grow young"
http://mark.goodge.co.uk - my pointless blog
http://www.good-stuff.co.uk - my less pointless stuff
date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:12:29 +0100   author:   Mark Goodge

Re: too much or ok ?   
<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Soweezy>
<Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:13:32 -0700 (PDT)>


> hi all, this is my first post in here and no idea of the standards you
> lot set but more than happy for any constructive advice, bearing in
> mind I'm not a web designer and just doing this for a friend...
> she seems happy enough, but it's hard to tell if she's being honest or
> just doesn't want to complain
> do you think it's too much and/or would you change anything ?
> 

As the text is displayed on a shaded/faded background image - you should 
use <b>bold</b> text so its easier to read .


-- 
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(the best php guestbook on planet earth)
date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:31:52 +0100   author:   Krustov

Re: too much or ok ?   
Mark...

thanks for the typos and comments
I'm not very good with CSS, setting text is about all I can do, that's
why I use tables :\

Krustov...

I don't know your screen res but on my 17" laptop screen the text
looks very clear as it is, I think making it all bold would be
overpowering ?
date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:59:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Soweezy

Re: too much or ok ?   
<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Soweezy>
<Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:59:24 -0700 (PDT)>


> Krustov...
> 
> I don't know your screen res but on my 17" laptop screen the text
> looks very clear as it is, I think making it all bold would be
> overpowering ?
> 

You do or you dont - it means jack shit to me .


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(the best php guestbook on planet earth)
date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:07:23 +0100   author:   Krustov

Re: too much or ok ?   
Looks simple and straightforward, which is always a positive.  That said, I 
have a couple of thoughts...

1. Create rollover images for the links at the top of the page, as it's not 
always obvious that these are links.
2. There's no link to the home page at the top of the screen, which might be 
useful (I know it's on the bottom line, but people often don't look there).
3. The map doesn't display properly on the location page: the balloon 
doesn't show fully in FF, so clicking on it as suggested in the text doesn't 
work properly.
4. You really need to do something about the font.  As others have 
suggested, there are only a few web-safe fonts, and this ain't one of them, 
so you can be confident that a significant number of users won't be seeing 
the site as you design it.

HTH



"Soweezy"  wrote in message 
news:f1748c3b-87ad-43d5-8b38-18c7c0756a90@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> hi all, this is my first post in here and no idea of the standards you
> lot set but more than happy for any constructive advice, bearing in
> mind I'm not a web designer and just doing this for a friend...
> she seems happy enough, but it's hard to tell if she's being honest or
> just doesn't want to complain
> do you think it's too much and/or would you change anything ?
>
> the font she wants (monotype corsiva) I think is hard to read and not
> a standard windows font
> also setting an alt font is difficult as hers at 12pt is about the
> same size as century gothic (and other standard windows) look at 8pt
>
> http://www.mumsaway.co.uk/mum/index.php
>
> thanks
date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:13:47 +0100   author:   Trent SC lid

Re: too much or ok ?   
On 13 Sep, 14:13, "Trent SC" <inva...@bogoff.invalid> wrote:
> Looks simple and straightforward, which is always a positive.  That said, I
> have a couple of thoughts...
>
> 1. Create rollover images for the links at the top of the page, as it's not
> always obvious that these are links.

not sure how to do that by using the map layout, if the clouds were
single images I wouldn't have a problem but as it's not...
I'm guessing if I'd done this in CSS it wouldn't be a problem ?

> 2. There's no link to the home page at the top of the screen, which might be
> useful (I know it's on the bottom line, but people often don't look thereoh, ok, thought I was being clever using the house on the hill as the
home link... oh well :)

> 3. The map doesn't display properly on the location page: the balloon
> doesn't show fully in FF, so clicking on it as suggested in the text doesn't
> work properly.

hmmm, I'm using FF v3.01 (assuming FF is Firefox) and it works for me

> 4. You really need to do something about the font.  As others have
> suggested, there are only a few web-safe fonts, and this ain't one of them,
> so you can be confident that a significant number of users won't be seeing
> the site as you design it.
>

should I be using just these or are there others... ?

http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html

> HTH

very much... thanks !!
date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:34:31 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Soweezy

Re: too much or ok ?   
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:34:31 -0700, Soweezy wrote:

> 
> not sure how to do that by using the map layout, if the clouds were
> single images I wouldn't have a problem but as it's not... I'm guessing
> if I'd done this in CSS it wouldn't be a problem ?

Yes, it needs separate images, and CSS is the obvious way to do the 
mouseover bit too.

> oh, ok, thought I was being clever using the house on the hill as the
> home link... oh well :)

FAR too clever!

>> 3. The map doesn't display properly on the location page: the balloon
>> doesn't show fully in FF, so clicking on it as suggested in the text
>> doesn't work properly.
> 
> hmmm, I'm using FF v3.01 (assuming FF is Firefox) and it works for me

The links after "get directions" are partly obsured by the MAP/Sat/Ter 
menu on Google Chrome here. You could make the map bigger. Also it's 
worth including a post code - lots of people have SatNavs now and 
postcodes are the quickest way of setting them.

> should I be using just these or are there others... ?
> 
> http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html

If you specify a font that the viewing browser doesn't have, it will 
choose a font that may or may not work as well as you intended. You could 
specify such a font as first choice, followed by the others as listed on 
that page, which is of fonts that are normally available on all Windows 
and Mac Systems. That way you'd know what would be used if your first 
choice wasn't available. You must specify the fonts using CSS for this 
mechanism to work.

I'm a little concerned about the contrast between text and background, 
but I'm not sure how to deal with that without radically changing the 
design. In any case, like many others, I favour dark text on  a light 
background for body text, or maybe the other way round for headings only.

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date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:39:04 -0500   author:   anahata

Re: too much or ok ?   
The font is horrible as is the use of so many acronyms on the first page

Steve

Soweezy wrote:
> hi all, this is my first post in here and no idea of the standards you
> lot set but more than happy for any constructive advice, bearing in
> mind I'm not a web designer and just doing this for a friend...
> she seems happy enough, but it's hard to tell if she's being honest or
> just doesn't want to complain
> do you think it's too much and/or would you change anything ?
> 
> the font she wants (monotype corsiva) I think is hard to read and not
> a standard windows font
> also setting an alt font is difficult as hers at 12pt is about the
> same size as century gothic (and other standard windows) look at 8pt
> 
> http://www.mumsaway.co.uk/mum/index.php
> 
> thanks
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:47:06 +0200   author:   Steve Y

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