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date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.net.web.authoring        back       
How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
Hello all,

The question has been asked everywhere on the internet but I can't
manage to find a solution that fits my needs.

Situation:
My guestbook gets automated spam with unwanted adult content by the
dozens. The moment I deleted those messages, an hour later there are a
dozen of new messages.

I am using my ISP free web account space and unfortunately they do not
support server side software such as php. I contacted my ISP and they
mention capsha but that's of no use since they do not support php.
Then they say there must be an alternative in html. So something is
out there somewhere, have a nice day. Great help!

Is there any other way to block this spam?

My preferences:
1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
each day at all.
3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
php is not supported.
4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
website and I'm not a programmer)

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,
Alex
date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Alex

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Alex>
<Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT)>


> My preferences:
> 1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
> 2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
> my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
> each day at all.
> 3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
> favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
> php is not supported.
> 4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
> website and I'm not a programmer)
> 

PHPGB does all the above - and more - as it sends you a email when a new 
guestbook entry is made .

I suppose i could arrange a free account for you - but that would depend 
on what the content of your website is .

Register on the phpgb forum and post the url of your website - if krusty 
deems it suitable - he will setup a guestbook for you and pm you the 
admin username and password for it .


-- 
www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
(the best php guestbook on planet earth)
date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:43:42 +0100   author:   Krustov

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
On Aug 22, 6:43 pm, Krustov  wrote:
> <uk.net.web.authoring>
> <Alex>
> <Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT)>
> 
>
> > My preferences:
> > 1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
> > 2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
> > my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
> > each day at all.
> > 3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
> > favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
> > php is not supported.
> > 4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
> > website and I'm not a programmer)
>
> PHPGB does all the above - and more - as it sends you a email when a new
> guestbook entry is made .
>
> I suppose i could arrange a free account for you - but that would depend
> on what the content of your website is .
>
> Register on the phpgb forum and post the url of your website - if krusty
> deems it suitable - he will setup a guestbook for you and pm you the
> admin username and password for it .
>
> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)

Thanks for your fast reply.

My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
http://users.telenet.be/aviator

But I need to emphasise that my ISP does not allow php or any other
server side programs. Isn't phpgb server side software?

Alex
date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Alex

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
Alex  writes:
<snip>
> Situation:
> My guestbook gets automated spam with unwanted adult content by the
> dozens. The moment I deleted those messages, an hour later there are a
> dozen of new messages.
>
> I am using my ISP free web account space and unfortunately they do not
> support server side software such as php. I contacted my ISP and they
> mention capsha but that's of no use since they do not support php.
> Then they say there must be an alternative in html. So something is
> out there somewhere, have a nice day. Great help!

There is a paradox here.  What is running the questbook if your host
does not support "server side software".  There must be something doing
the work.  Are you forbidden from adding to or altering whatever that is?

> Is there any other way to block this spam?

All methods I know use something server side.  You could do something
as a client-side script but that will exclude users who browse with
scripting off.

> My preferences:
> 1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
> 2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
> my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
> each day at all.
> 3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
> favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
> php is not supported.
> 4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
> website and I'm not a programmer)

Stage 1 is to find out if you can do anything at all.  If you can't
run, install or modify any server-side software, then I think you are
out of luck.

-- 
Ben.
date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:16:21 +0100   author:   Ben Bacarisse

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
Alex  writes:

> On Aug 22, 6:43 pm, Krustov  wrote:
<stuff>
>> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
>> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)
>
> Thanks for your fast reply.

Let me as neutral as possible.  Use an archive like google groups to
read other contributions from this helpful poster.

> My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> http://users.telenet.be/aviator
>
> But I need to emphasise that my ISP does not allow php or any other
> server side programs. Isn't phpgb server side software?

I think he is offering to host the guestbook so it would run of his
servers.

-- 
Ben.
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:49:02 +0100   author:   Ben Bacarisse

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Alex>
<Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)>


> My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> http://users.telenet.be/aviator
> 

Hi , I'm afraid your website has been deemed unsuitable for a free 
guestbook .

It has google ads on it and is therefore classed by myself as being a 
commercial website because you make money from it .


-- 
www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
(the best php guestbook on planet earth)
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:17:37 +0100   author:   Krustov

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
In article ,
ad1979@telenet.be (Alex) wrote:

> Situation:
> My guestbook gets automated spam with unwanted adult content by the
> dozens. The moment I deleted those messages, an hour later there are a
> dozen of new messages.

You have to block this at the server - the spammers may not even be looking at your
page after they first located it, they probably just send the message as if the
form had been filled in, without actually loading it.

It doesn't need to be very complicated - I have completely blocked spam postings
just by scanning for and rejecting 'http://'.

If you can't do any server side programming at all, then you may need to find
somewhere else to host the guestbook - there are several ways of doing this.

Alternatively, you are presumably using a pre-written guestbook script which you
can't edit - but can you change its parameters? For instance can you tell it that
certain fields are required? That may let you do tricks such as creating a required
field with JavaScript. But it's a bit of a kludge.

-- 
To reply email rafe, at the address cix co uk
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:22 +0100 (ope)   author:   y (Rafe Culpin)

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
On Aug 23, 1:17 pm, Krustov  wrote:
> <uk.net.web.authoring>
> <Alex>
> <Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)>
> 
>
> > My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> > website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> > about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> >http://users.telenet.be/aviator
>
> Hi , I'm afraid your website has been deemed unsuitable for a free
> guestbook .
>
> It has google ads on it and is therefore classed by myself as being a
> commercial website because you make money from it .
>
> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)

Ouch, that felt like a stab in the back! "Oh he's an airline pilot,
that pays well. And hey, he's got google ads, I bet he's over-rich! In
that case, I'm not gonna give him anything for free". Thanks mate.

If it's any consolation to you, in the 2,5 years that my website has
been online I have earned 12 US$ that I didn't even get because with
adsense you need to reach a threshold of 50 US$ before you get paid.
And even that is thanks to my parents who at their work use the google
search box from my website. And for the flying job my working days are
12-16 hours long and I earn less than an average computer programmer
on a 9 to 5 job that sells expensive software that is full of bugs and
security holes for which you have to download updates every week and
in the meantime watch your hair fall out.

Never mind, this sounds more complicated than I thought. I'm
considering closing down my guestbook.

Thanks anyway for the help all.
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:56 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Alex

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
On Aug 23, 1:17 pm, Krustov  wrote:
> <uk.net.web.authoring>
> <Alex>
> <Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)>
> 
>
> > My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> > website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> > about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> >http://users.telenet.be/aviator
>
> Hi , I'm afraid your website has been deemed unsuitable for a free
> guestbook .
>
> It has google ads on it and is therefore classed by myself as being a
> commercial website because you make money from it .
>
> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)

Ouch, that felt like a stab in the back! "Oh he's an airline pilot,
that pays well. And hey, he's got google ads, I bet he's over-rich! In
that case, I'm not gonna give him anything for free". Thanks mate.

If it's any consolation to you, in the 2,5 years that my website has
been online I have earned 12 US$ that I didn't even get because with
adsense you need to reach a threshold of 50 US$ before you get paid.
And even that is thanks to my parents who at their work use the google
search box from my website. And for the flying job my working days are
12-16 hours long and I earn less than an average computer programmer
on a 9 to 5 job that sells expensive software that is full of bugs and
security holes for which you have to download updates every week and
in the meantime watch your hair fall out.

Never mind, this sounds more complicated than I thought. I'm
considering closing down my guestbook.

Thanks anyway for the help all.
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:46:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Alex

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Alex>
<Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:56 -0700 (PDT)>


> Ouch, that felt like a stab in the back! "Oh he's an airline pilot,
> that pays well. And hey, he's got google ads, I bet he's over-rich! In
> that case, I'm not gonna give him anything for free". Thanks mate.
> 
> If it's any consolation to you, in the 2,5 years that my website has
> been online I have earned 12 US$ that I didn't even get because with
> adsense you need to reach a threshold of 50 US$ before you get paid.
> And even that is thanks to my parents who at their work use the google
> search box from my website. And for the flying job my working days are
> 12-16 hours long and I earn less than an average computer programmer
> on a 9 to 5 job that sells expensive software that is full of bugs and
> security holes for which you have to download updates every week and
> in the meantime watch your hair fall out.
> 

I have no objection whatsoever to your job etc .

Its just that i hate and despise google ads as i regard them as a curse 
on the internet - and you as somebody who has them on their own website 
by their own choice even admits they dont even make any money from them 
- then doesnt that in turn mean having google ads on your website is 
rather pointless and futile .

= google must be laughing there head off at people like you as you 
advertise their product - without even getting paid for doing so .


-- 
www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
(the best php guestbook on planet earth)
date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:56:37 +0100   author:   Krustov

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
"Alex"  wrote in message 
news:74e87f21-9ddf-42b9-a80a-24a739482fa4@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 23, 1:17 pm, Krustov  wrote:
> <uk.net.web.authoring>
> <Alex>
> <Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)>
> 
>
> > My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> > website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> > about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> >http://users.telenet.be/aviator
>
> Hi , I'm afraid your website has been deemed unsuitable for a free
> guestbook .
>
> It has google ads on it and is therefore classed by myself as being a
> commercial website because you make money from it .
>
> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)

>Ouch, that felt like a stab in the back! "Oh he's an airline pilot,
>that pays well. And hey, he's got google ads, I bet he's over-rich! In
>that case, I'm not gonna give him anything for free". Thanks mate.
>
>If it's any consolation to you, in the 2,5 years that my website has
>been online I have earned 12 US$ that I didn't even get because with
>adsense you need to reach a threshold of 50 US$ before you get paid.
>And even that is thanks to my parents who at their work use the google
>search box from my website. And for the flying job my working days are
>12-16 hours long and I earn less than an average computer programmer
>on a 9 to 5 job that sells expensive software that is full of bugs and
>security holes for which you have to download updates every week and
>in the meantime watch your hair fall out.
>
>Never mind, this sounds more complicated than I thought. I'm
>considering closing down my guestbook.
>
>Thanks anyway for the help all.

Read some of his posts before you get bothered.

Krusty is a bit of a cock and really doesn't know much worth knowing. Put it 
this way, your site has better content than any of his and content is what 
the web is about.

AC
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:05:17 +0100   author:   AC

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
Message-ID:
 from
Alex contained the following:

>Never mind, this sounds more complicated than I thought. I'm
>considering closing down my guestbook.

Yeah, that'll do it.  To be really secure close down the website.

If you want everything for free you have to accept the crap that goes
with it.  But for the expenditure of a relatively small amount of money
you can have your own domain and hosting and have things exactly as you
want  You will also have your own email address which you can keep for
life, regardless of who supplied your internet connection.  And yes, it
may be a bit complicated, but do this and you will learn new and
valuable skills.

It's all win, really.

-- 
Geoff Berrow  0110001001101100010000000110
001101101011011001000110111101100111001011
100110001101101111001011100111010101101011
http://slipperyhill.co.uk - http://4theweb.co.uk
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:56:50 +0100   author:   Geoff Berrow

Re: How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server side software,   
<uk.net.web.authoring>
<AC>
<Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:05:17 +0100>
<q1csk.135121$Mn3.15902@newsfe30.ams2>

> Krusty is a bit of a cock and really doesn't know much worth knowing. Put it 
> this way, your site has better content than any of his and content is what 
> the web is about.
> 

The web is about many things to many different people .

But you (all by yourself) mr high and mighty have decided what it is ? .


-- 
www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
(the best php guestbook on planet earth)
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:49:53 +0100   author:   Krustov

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