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date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:33:51 +0100,    group: uk.net.web.authoring        back       
IE re-rendering cached images   
IE problem only, but is there any script way to override it;

I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus sitting in 
cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very annoying.

Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' or can it 
be wisely solved?

-dE|_---

ps; what do you think of the new colour scheme & imagery anyway?
http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/
Green->Orange gradient before
date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:33:51 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: IE re-rendering cached images   
dE|_ wrote:

> IE problem only, but is there any script way to override it;
>
> I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus sitting in
> cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very annoying.
>
> Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' or can it
> be wisely solved?
>
Hmmm did you try emptying the IE cache. That might help.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:32:27 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Chaddy2222

Re: IE re-rendering cached images   
"Chaddy2222" wrote:
>
>> IE problem only, but is there any script way to override it;
>>
>> I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus sitting in
>> cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very 
>> annoying.
>>
>> Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' or can 
>> it
>> be wisely solved?
>>
> Hmmm did you try emptying the IE cache. That might help.

On further inspection; if the _page_ is cached then this doesn't happen. 
Judging by the way IE & FF change between the same pages, it seems as if IE 
empties the screen on exit, then reloads (out of cache) the same images, 
whereas FF stops to check the next page's content before dumping the last.
date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:16:37 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: IE dumping screen then re-building the same   
"dE|_" wrote...

>>> I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus sitting in
>>> cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very 
>>> annoying.
>>>
>>> Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' or can 
>>> it
>>> be wisely solved?
>>>
>> Hmmm did you try emptying the IE cache. That might help.
>
> On further inspection; if the _page_ is cached then this doesn't happen. 
> Judging by the way IE & FF change between the same pages, it seems as if 
> IE empties the screen on exit, then reloads (out of cache) the same 
> images, whereas FF stops to check the next page's content before dumping 
> the last.

So is there any way to tell IE to hold the image on the page like it knows 
to once the HTML is cached?

The image is set as a div background in CSS.

-dE|_---
date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:04:36 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: IE dumping screen then re-building the same   
dE|_ wrote:

> "dE|_" wrote...
>
> >>> I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus sitting in
> >>> cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very
> >>> annoying.
> >>>
> >>> Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' or can
> >>> it
> >>> be wisely solved?
> >>>
> >> Hmmm did you try emptying the IE cache. That might help.
> >
> > On further inspection; if the _page_ is cached then this doesn't happen.
> > Judging by the way IE & FF change between the same pages, it seems as if
> > IE empties the screen on exit, then reloads (out of cache) the same
> > images, whereas FF stops to check the next page's content before dumping
> > the last.
>
> So is there any way to tell IE to hold the image on the page like it knows
> to once the HTML is cached?
>
> The image is set as a div background in CSS.
>
Sorry for not getting back to you on this sooner. I have been flat-
out.
Maybe try clearing out the temperwary files / cache in IE and see if
that helps. Then if that does not work: Make sure the image is a good
size for the web (below 30KB.
Alternativly check in the tools > Internet Options settings under
advanced and un-check the always check for new versions of web pages
box.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:07:59 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Chaddy2222

Re: IE dumping screen then re-building the same   
"Chaddy2222" wrote
>> >>> I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus sitting 
>> >>> in
>> >>> cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very
>> >>> annoying.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' or 
>> >>> can
>> >>> it
>> >>> be wisely solved?
>> >>>
>> >> Hmmm did you try emptying the IE cache. That might help.
>> >
>> > On further inspection; if the _page_ is cached then this doesn't 
>> > happen.
>> > Judging by the way IE & FF change between the same pages, it seems as 
>> > if
>> > IE empties the screen on exit, then reloads (out of cache) the same
>> > images, whereas FF stops to check the next page's content before 
>> > dumping
>> > the last.
>>
>> So is there any way to tell IE to hold the image on the page like it 
>> knows
>> to once the HTML is cached?
>>
>> The image is set as a div background in CSS.
>>
> Sorry for not getting back to you on this sooner. I have been flat-
> out.
> Maybe try clearing out the temperwary files / cache in IE and see if
> that helps. Then if that does not work: Make sure the image is a good
> size for the web (below 30KB.
> Alternativly check in the tools > Internet Options settings under
> advanced and un-check the always check for new versions of web pages
> box.

Well I didn't dump the whole cache (for password purposes), but I cleared 
about 50MB out of it, no change.

The image is big; 117K but it is definitely cached, I saw it when I was 
clearing out. The 'new versions' idea was good but has made no difference.

Something has changed since my last description of this not happening once 
the page is cached; now when I link to the page I'm already on, IE drops it 
and reloads it! It's just stupid.

Are you partially sighted or fully blind? Would you be able to see if this 
happens on your system? I don't think anybody else is interested.
http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/index.html

Cheers

-dE|_---
date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:11:52 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: IE dumping screen then re-building the same   
dE|_ wrote:

> "Chaddy2222" wrote
> >> >>> I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus sitting
> >> >>> in
> >> >>> cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very
> >> >>> annoying.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' or
> >> >>> can
> >> >>> it
> >> >>> be wisely solved?
> >> >>>
> >> >> Hmmm did you try emptying the IE cache. That might help.
> >> >
> >> > On further inspection; if the _page_ is cached then this doesn't
> >> > happen.
> >> > Judging by the way IE & FF change between the same pages, it seems as
> >> > if
> >> > IE empties the screen on exit, then reloads (out of cache) the same
> >> > images, whereas FF stops to check the next page's content before
> >> > dumping
> >> > the last.
> >>
> >> So is there any way to tell IE to hold the image on the page like it
> >> knows
> >> to once the HTML is cached?
> >>
> >> The image is set as a div background in CSS.
> >>
> > Sorry for not getting back to you on this sooner. I have been flat-
> > out.
> > Maybe try clearing out the temperwary files / cache in IE and see if
> > that helps. Then if that does not work: Make sure the image is a good
> > size for the web (below 30KB.
> > Alternativly check in the tools > Internet Options settings under
> > advanced and un-check the always check for new versions of web pages
> > box.
>
> Well I didn't dump the whole cache (for password purposes), but I cleared
> about 50MB out of it, no change.
>
> The image is big; 117K but it is definitely cached, I saw it when I was
> clearing out. The 'new versions' idea was good but has made no difference.
>
> Something has changed since my last description of this not happening once
> the page is cached; now when I link to the page I'm already on, IE drops it
> and reloads it! It's just stupid.
>
> Are you partially sighted or fully blind? Would you be able to see if this
> happens on your system? I don't think anybody else is interested.
> http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/index.html
>
> Cheers
>
Yes I can see a bit and yes I do notice what you mean. But you say the
image is above 100KB, you should really do something about that. It
should be no more then 30K, 40K if your really pushing it.
Re-size the graphic down in photoshop or another graphics program, PS
has an option so save images for the web.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org
date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:57:51 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Chaddy2222

Re: IE dumping screen then re-building the same   
"Chaddy2222" wrote after Del said;
>>
>> The image is big; 117K but it is definitely cached, I saw it when I was
>> clearing out. The 'new versions' idea was good but has made no 
>> difference.
>>
>> Something has changed since my last description of this not happening 
>> once
>> the page is cached; now when I link to the page I'm already on, IE drops 
>> it
>> and reloads it! It's just stupid.
>>
>> Are you partially sighted or fully blind? Would you be able to see if 
>> this
>> happens on your system? I don't think anybody else is interested.
>> http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/index.html
>>
>> Cheers
>>
> Yes I can see a bit and yes I do notice what you mean. But you say the
> image is above 100KB, you should really do something about that. It
> should be no more then 30K, 40K if your really pushing it.
> Re-size the graphic down in photoshop or another graphics program, PS
> has an option so save images for the web.

The rule of 30-40K is getting a bit old now that broadband is so common, and 
this is a consistent picture so I consider one 117KB img valid. I wouldn't 
put a new one on every page.

Anyway, I tested a low quality 16K version; no change. I then tested one in 
smaller dimensions / high quality and that was fine. It seems that IE 
doesn't like holding on to wide images from page-to-page. I've not gone 
through the various size testing yet, so I can't give you the limit.

-dE|_---
date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:43:42 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: IE dumping screen then re-building the same   
"Chaddy2222" wrote:
>
>> "Chaddy2222" wrote
>> >> >>> I have a large background image, consistent on all pages thus 
>> >> >>> sitting
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> cache, yet when you navigate in IE it cuts out/in every time. Very
>> >> >>> annoying.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Is this something that is just 'use firefox' & 'speed of G card' 
>> >> >>> or
>> >> >>> can
>> >> >>> it
>> >> >>> be wisely solved?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> Hmmm did you try emptying the IE cache. That might help.
>> >> >
>> >> > On further inspection; if the _page_ is cached then this doesn't
>> >> > happen.
>> >> > Judging by the way IE & FF change between the same pages, it seems 
>> >> > as
>> >> > if
>> >> > IE empties the screen on exit, then reloads (out of cache) the same
>> >> > images, whereas FF stops to check the next page's content before
>> >> > dumping
>> >> > the last.
>> >>
>> >> So is there any way to tell IE to hold the image on the page like it
>> >> knows
>> >> to once the HTML is cached?
>> >>
>> >> The image is set as a div background in CSS.
>> >>
>> > Sorry for not getting back to you on this sooner. I have been flat-
>> > out.
>> > Maybe try clearing out the temperwary files / cache in IE and see if
>> > that helps. Then if that does not work: Make sure the image is a good
>> > size for the web (below 30KB.
>> > Alternativly check in the tools > Internet Options settings under
>> > advanced and un-check the always check for new versions of web pages
>> > box.
>>
>> Well I didn't dump the whole cache (for password purposes), but I cleared
>> about 50MB out of it, no change.
>>
>> The image is big; 117K but it is definitely cached, I saw it when I was
>> clearing out. The 'new versions' idea was good but has made no 
>> difference.
>>
>> Something has changed since my last description of this not happening 
>> once
>> the page is cached; now when I link to the page I'm already on, IE drops 
>> it
>> and reloads it! It's just stupid.
>>
>> Are you partially sighted or fully blind? Would you be able to see if 
>> this
>> happens on your system? I don't think anybody else is interested.
>> http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/index.html
>>
>> Cheers
>>
> Yes I can see a bit and yes I do notice what you mean. But you say the
> image is above 100KB, you should really do something about that. It
> should be no more then 30K, 40K if your really pushing it.
> Re-size the graphic down in photoshop or another graphics program, PS
> has an option so save images for the web.

Cracked it; preload image JS. Problem solved.

-dE|_---
date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:28:52 +0100   author:   dE|_

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