I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be displayed within a standard static page rather than
constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the site using a CMS?

It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's html/css, 
then Adobe Contribute will do the job.

"barV"  wrote in message 
news:rmrf54dookjah9fbkrcr21n251hfmhtnp4@4ax.com...
>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a 
>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be 
>displayed within a standard static page rather than
> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the 
> site using a CMS?

<uk.net.web.authoring>
<barV>
<Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:06:02 GMT>


> I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be displayed within a standard static page rather than
> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the site using a CMS? 
> 

You dont need a CMS for what you and you client wants to do .

If your client is capable of doing a cut-n-paste of some text into a 
standard form box - then thats all you need .

If fact it would be pretty much like the (sign guestbook) option on the 
website shown below - as the main guestbook is saved as a (flat file) 
and then the text file is 'read in' when the whole page is viewed .

Although its probably best to ask your client first if the guestbook 
form box method is ok with them .


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"Trent SC" <invalid@bogoff.invalid> wrote in message 
news:irydnaKrHPWEasrVnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's html/css, 
> then Adobe Contribute will do the job.
>
> "barV"  wrote in message 
> news:rmrf54dookjah9fbkrcr21n251hfmhtnp4@4ax.com...
>>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a 
>>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be 
>>displayed within a standard static page rather than
>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the 
>> site using a CMS?
>
>

Would 'Contribute' allow the client to upload/update text _and_ pictures 
into /empty tables/ etc on a fully styled HTML page?

I am adding a news page to one soon, so that would be ideal in future.

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:13:19 +0100, "dE|_"
 wrote:

>
>"Trent SC" <invalid@bogoff.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:irydnaKrHPWEasrVnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's html/css, 
>> then Adobe Contribute will do the job.
>>
>> "barV"  wrote in message 
>> news:rmrf54dookjah9fbkrcr21n251hfmhtnp4@4ax.com...
>>>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a 
>>>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be 
>>>displayed within a standard static page rather than
>>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the 
>>> site using a CMS?
>>
>>
>
>Would 'Contribute' allow the client to upload/update text _and_ pictures 
>into /empty tables/ etc on a fully styled HTML page?
>
>I am adding a news page to one soon, so that would be ideal in future.


I've set up PmWiki for a customer for a garden nursery, it's used a s
a simple CMS, flat files, no database. It's used by an 80-year old!
http://www.notes.trenear.co.uk/

Easy to use and stable.


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http://www.sandrila.co.uk/              http://www.pherber.com/

>> It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's 
>> html/css, then Adobe Contribute will do the job.
>>
>>>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a 
>>>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be 
>>>displayed within a standard static page rather than
>>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the 
>>> site using a CMS?
>
> Would 'Contribute' allow the client to upload/update text _and_ pictures 
> into /empty tables/ etc on a fully styled HTML page?
>
> I am adding a news page to one soon, so that would be ideal in future.

Yup.

I give my clients a copy of Contribute when they have html sites and it 
works a dream.  Training usually takes about 20 minutes and my general 
approach is that if they're savvy enough to know Word, they can work out how 
to use Contribute.

Message-ID:  from
Krustov contained the following:

>If your client is capable of doing a cut-n-paste of some text into a 
>standard form box - then thats all you need .
>
>If fact it would be pretty much like the (sign guestbook) option on the 
>website shown below - as the main guestbook is saved as a (flat file) 
>and then the text file is 'read in' when the whole page is viewed .


Of course, you'll need a script, assuming you can't write one yourself.
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<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Geoff Berrow>
<Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:50:01 +0100>


> >If your client is capable of doing a cut-n-paste of some text into a 
> >standard form box - then thats all you need .
> >
> >If fact it would be pretty much like the (sign guestbook) option on the 
> >website shown below - as the main guestbook is saved as a (flat file) 
> >and then the text file is 'read in' when the whole page is viewed .
> 
> 
> Of course, you'll need a script, assuming you can't write one yourself.
> 

But isnt that where a do gooder like yourself comes in ? .

:-)


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Message-ID:  from
Krustov contained the following:

>> Of course, you'll need a script, assuming you can't write one yourself.
>> 
>
>But isnt that where a do gooder like yourself comes in ? .

Very often, yes. ;-)

Snowed under atm though

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:05:41 +0100, Krustov  wrote:

><uk.net.web.authoring>
><barV>
><Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:06:02 GMT>
>
>
>> I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be displayed within a standard static page rather than
>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the site using a CMS? 
>> 
>
>You dont need a CMS for what you and you client wants to do .
>
>If your client is capable of doing a cut-n-paste of some text into a 
>standard form box - then thats all you need .
>
>If fact it would be pretty much like the (sign guestbook) option on the 
>website shown below - as the main guestbook is saved as a (flat file) 
>and then the text file is 'read in' when the whole page is viewed .
>
>Although its probably best to ask your client first if the guestbook 
>form box method is ok with them .


This would work for text but they are likely to want images, text formatting etc so probably isn't sufficient.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:34:56 +0100, "Trent SC" <invalid@bogoff.invalid> wrote:

>>> It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's 
>>> html/css, then Adobe Contribute will do the job.
>>>
>>>>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a 
>>>>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be 
>>>>displayed within a standard static page rather than
>>>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the 
>>>> site using a CMS?
>>
>> Would 'Contribute' allow the client to upload/update text _and_ pictures 
>> into /empty tables/ etc on a fully styled HTML page?
>>
>> I am adding a news page to one soon, so that would be ideal in future.
>
>Yup.
>
>I give my clients a copy of Contribute when they have html sites and it 
>works a dream.  Training usually takes about 20 minutes and my general 
>approach is that if they're savvy enough to know Word, they can work out how 
>to use Contribute. 
>
Contribute costs as much as I charged for the whole site (I'm cheap!)

<uk.net.web.authoring>
<barV>
<Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:32:20 GMT>


> >> I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be displayed within a standard static page rather than
> >> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the site using a CMS? 
> >> 
> >
> >You dont need a CMS for what you and you client wants to do .
> >
> >If your client is capable of doing a cut-n-paste of some text into a 
> >standard form box - then thats all you need .
> >
> >If fact it would be pretty much like the (sign guestbook) option on the 
> >website shown below - as the main guestbook is saved as a (flat file) 
> >and then the text file is 'read in' when the whole page is viewed .
> >
> >Although its probably best to ask your client first if the guestbook 
> >form box method is ok with them .
> 
> 
> This would work for text but they are likely to want images, text formatting etc so probably isn't sufficient. 
> 

Then dont you think you should have fucking said that in the first place 
ya cunt .


-- 
www.krustov.co.uk

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:44:32 +0100, Krustov  wrote:

><uk.net.web.authoring>
><barV>
><Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:32:20 GMT>
>
>
>> >> I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be displayed within a standard static page rather than
>> >> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the site using a CMS? 
>> >> 
>> >
>> >You dont need a CMS for what you and you client wants to do .
>> >
>> >If your client is capable of doing a cut-n-paste of some text into a 
>> >standard form box - then thats all you need .
>> >
>> >If fact it would be pretty much like the (sign guestbook) option on the 
>> >website shown below - as the main guestbook is saved as a (flat file) 
>> >and then the text file is 'read in' when the whole page is viewed .
>> >
>> >Although its probably best to ask your client first if the guestbook 
>> >form box method is ok with them .
>> 
>> 
>> This would work for text but they are likely to want images, text formatting etc so probably isn't sufficient. 
>> 
>
>Then dont you think you should have fucking said that in the first place 
>ya cunt .

From original message:- " Ideally their text etc. would be displayed ..." That's what the 'etc' was there for .

How come when I acknowledged your help you get abusive?

<uk.net.web.authoring>
<barV>
<Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:03:05 GMT>


> >> This would work for text but they are likely to want images, text formatting etc so probably isn't sufficient. 
> >> 
> >
> >Then dont you think you should have fucking said that in the first place 
> >ya cunt .
> 
> From original message:- " Ideally their text etc. would be displayed ..." That's what the 'etc' was there for .
> 
> How come when I acknowledged your help you get abusive?
> 

I'm so fucking sorry for not being a fucking mind reader by way knowing 
what fucking 'etc' was supposed to fucking mean you fucking idiot .

Where is {R} when you need him :-))


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Message-ID:  from barV
contained the following:

>>Then dont you think you should have fucking said that in the first place 
>>ya cunt .
>
>From original message:- " Ideally their text etc. would be displayed ..." That's what the 'etc' was there for .
>
>How come when I acknowledged your help you get abusive?

It's just his way...:-)

You have two choices.

You can tell the client that what he wants is out of his budget and walk
away.

Or you can do the job for a fraction of what it's worth for the
opportunity to learn something.  That may cost you quite a bit of time
and frustration. 

If you choose the latter, there is a free WYSIWYG editor called
FCKeditor that sits on top of a form.  Not the easiest thing to get
working but it does the job.

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Geoff Berrow  0110001001101100010000000110
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On 19/6/08 11:03 pm, in article acll54thcmt2jnnscd0p79316klvb3ho6o@4ax.com,
"barV"  wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:44:32 +0100, Krustov  wrote:
> 
>> <uk.net.web.authoring>
>> <barV>
>> <Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:32:20 GMT>
>> 
>> 
>>>>> I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update a
>>>>> single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be
>>>>> displayed within a standard static page rather than
>>>>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild the
>>>>> site using a CMS?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You dont need a CMS for what you and you client wants to do .
>>>> 
>>>> If your client is capable of doing a cut-n-paste of some text into a
>>>> standard form box - then thats all you need .
>>>> 
>>>> If fact it would be pretty much like the (sign guestbook) option on the
>>>> website shown below - as the main guestbook is saved as a (flat file)
>>>> and then the text file is 'read in' when the whole page is viewed .
>>>> 
>>>> Although its probably best to ask your client first if the guestbook
>>>> form box method is ok with them .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This would work for text but they are likely to want images, text formatting
>>> etc so probably isn't sufficient.
>>> 
>> 
>> Then dont you think you should have fucking said that in the first place
>> ya cunt .
> 
> From original message:- " Ideally their text etc. would be displayed ..."
> That's what the 'etc' was there for .
> 
> How come when I acknowledged your help you get abusive?

Because he's not very bright and he's a troll.  Don't damn him for it, he's
also very insecure. Just killfile him.  Nothing he ever says will be of any
use to you so you won't be missing anything unless you want a laugh every
now and then.

Apart from that, has your client got access to php and MySQL?  It probably
is a bit of overkill for a single page but you could get the free version of
TinyMCE, install that on a page with a textarea and then just write the
contents to a MySQL table.

It's probably 30 minutes work.  How quickly do you need it, how much do you
know about php/MySQL and can you find out if he has it on his server?

If the answers are 'in the next few days', 'nothing' and 'yes PHP and MySQL
are installed' then drop me a line outside of here and I'll get someone to
knock the code up for you.  All you'll have to do is replace a few variables
and it should all just work.  It'll certainly give you the basis of
something that you can then build on yourself.  Just replace nospam with
andy on my e-mail address.

-- 
Andy Jacobs
http://www.redcatmedia.co.uk

<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Andy Jacobs>
<Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:47:22 +0100>
<C481110A.116F6%nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk>

> Because he's not very bright and he's a troll.  Don't damn him for it, he's
> also very insecure. Just killfile him.  Nothing he ever says will be of any
> use to you
> 

I agree .


-- 
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>>>> It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's
>>>> html/css, then Adobe Contribute will do the job.
>>>>
>>>>>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can update 
>>>>>a
>>>>>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be
>>>>>displayed within a standard static page rather than
>>>>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild 
>>>>> the
>>>>> site using a CMS?
>>>
>>> Would 'Contribute' allow the client to upload/update text _and_ pictures
>>> into /empty tables/ etc on a fully styled HTML page?
>>>
>>> I am adding a news page to one soon, so that would be ideal in future.
>>
>>Yup.
>>
>>I give my clients a copy of Contribute when they have html sites and it
>>works a dream.  Training usually takes about 20 minutes and my general
>>approach is that if they're savvy enough to know Word, they can work out 
>>how
>>to use Contribute.
>>
> Contribute costs as much as I charged for the whole site (I'm cheap!)

What, £60?  Blimey!

"Trent SC" wrote...
>>>>> It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's
>>>>> html/css, then Adobe Contribute will do the job.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can 
>>>>>>update a
>>>>>>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be
>>>>>>displayed within a standard static page rather than
>>>>>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> site using a CMS?
>>>>
>>>> Would 'Contribute' allow the client to upload/update text _and_ 
>>>> pictures
>>>> into /empty tables/ etc on a fully styled HTML page?
>>>>
>>>> I am adding a news page to one soon, so that would be ideal in future.
>>>
>>>Yup.
>>>
>>>I give my clients a copy of Contribute when they have html sites and it
>>>works a dream.  Training usually takes about 20 minutes and my general
>>>approach is that if they're savvy enough to know Word, they can work out 
>>>how
>>>to use Contribute.
>>>
>> Contribute costs as much as I charged for the whole site (I'm cheap!)
>
> What, £60?  Blimey!

I'm glad you pointed that out, I was about to turn my back on it.

"Trent SC" <invalid@bogoff.invalid> wrote in message 
news:OPGdnaX_Sp2pbf3VnZ2dnUVZ8qXinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>>>> It depends on what the page is written in.  For example, if it's
>>>>> html/css, then Adobe Contribute will do the job.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I need to add an easy to use (for client anyway) CMS so they can 
>>>>>>update a
>>>>>>single page of a current website. Ideally their text etc. would be
>>>>>>displayed within a standard static page rather than
>>>>>> constitute the whole page. Is this feasable or do I need to rebuild 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> site using a CMS?
>>>>
>>>> Would 'Contribute' allow the client to upload/update text _and_ 
>>>> pictures
>>>> into /empty tables/ etc on a fully styled HTML page?
>>>>
>>>> I am adding a news page to one soon, so that would be ideal in future.
>>>
>>>Yup.
>>>
>>>I give my clients a copy of Contribute when they have html sites and it
>>>works a dream.  Training usually takes about 20 minutes and my general
>>>approach is that if they're savvy enough to know Word, they can work out 
>>>how
>>>to use Contribute.
>>>
>> Contribute costs as much as I charged for the whole site (I'm cheap!)
>
> What, £60?  Blimey!

Which version are you getting for £60 then? Only products I see in that 
region are upgrades?

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