I want to offer businesses 'updates' and 'modifications' to their existing 
sites, (such as adding a search tool, form mail, flash stream video/mp3) but 
will this breach any copyright to the original author?

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>I want to offer businesses 'updates' and 'modifications' to their existing 
>sites, (such as adding a search tool, form mail, flash stream video/mp3) 
>but will this breach any copyright to the original author?

Depending on the location of the company, copyright will normally be vested 
in the client (once the invoice has been paid) so as long as you hold the 
copyright holder's permission - in this case the company rather than the web 
designer - then you're OK.

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:20:15 -0000, "Henry Ross" <HR@HR.invalid> wrote:

>Depending on the location of the company, copyright will normally be vested 
>in the client (once the invoice has been paid) so as long as you hold the 

Other way around in the UK AIUI/IIRC as a "design" company designing
for another company wouldn't be "work for hire", or whatever it's
called.

However, you do not need the copyright holder's permission to modify
something if a licence (whether by contract or explicit) allows the
designer's client or an agent of theirs to do so. It all goes back
(assuming a B2B scenario) to the contract between the designer and the
company.

If the original design company licensed 3rd party content, e.g.
iStockphoto, and someone else wants to modify that - then things get
complicated!

>>Depending on the location of the company, copyright will normally be 
>>vested
>>in the client (once the invoice has been paid) so as long as you hold the
>
> Other way around in the UK AIUI/IIRC as a "design" company designing
> for another company wouldn't be "work for hire", or whatever it's
> called.
>
> However, you do not need the copyright holder's permission to modify
> something if a licence (whether by contract or explicit) allows the
> designer's client or an agent of theirs to do so. It all goes back
> (assuming a B2B scenario) to the contract between the designer and the
> company.

I've lost you on that last paragraph. You are now labelling the original 
designer as the CR holder, we (client/me) don't need permission but we must 
have a licence? Reads like a contradiction in terms, but then I don't know 
what you mean by 'contract or explicit'.

I'll just call up a contact on the day to check each contract out.

Thanks for trying, moderator at uk.legal doesn't like me.

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(no I don't sign like that)

In uk.net.web.authoring message <fMoqj.3384$NL3.2354@newsfe2-gui.ntli.ne
t>, Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:28:59, dE|_  posted:
>I want to offer businesses 'updates' and 'modifications' to their existing
>sites, (such as adding a search tool, form mail, flash stream video/mp3) but
>will this breach any copyright to the original author?

Copyright is in essence about re-publication or multiple use rather than
mere duplication.  Consider <http://www.ipo.gov.uk/copy.htm>.

So there should be no problem with privately offering, to an
organisation which publishes material, reasonable modifications of that
material - unless you were to do so to an extent which might be
considered harassment.

But would it not be better to prepare and offer some pages generally
resembling, but in no way duplicating, those of typical relevant
businesses - you would naturally own copyright in those - and add to
them (perhaps under control of a "Demonstration on/off" button) generic
instances of the sort of add-ons you are offering to supply?

It's a good idea to read the newsgroup c.l.j and its FAQ.  See below.

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> In uk.net.web.authoring message <fMoqj.3384$NL3.2354@newsfe2-gui.ntli.ne
> t>, Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:28:59, dE|_  posted:
>>I want to offer businesses 'updates' and 'modifications' to their existing
>>sites, (such as adding a search tool, form mail, flash stream video/mp3) 
>>but
>>will this breach any copyright to the original author?
>
> Copyright is in essence about re-publication or multiple use rather than
> mere duplication.  Consider <http://www.ipo.gov.uk/copy.htm>.
>
> So there should be no problem with privately offering, to an
> organisation which publishes material, reasonable modifications of that
> material - unless you were to do so to an extent which might be
> considered harassment.
>
> But would it not be better to prepare and offer some pages generally
> resembling, but in no way duplicating, those of typical relevant
> businesses - you would naturally own copyright in those - and add to
> them (perhaps under control of a "Demonstration on/off" button) generic
> instances of the sort of add-ons you are offering to supply?

Hmm....

It is a bit early in the post-weekend morning but I don't like the idea of a 
demonstration button for access to a form mail or search page, I may be 
reading on a different wavelength.

Any of the multimedia I add, even if it be in a popup, I wouldn't want to be 
popped up by [Demonstration]. Won't be able to take anything on for a while 
now anyway so I've got plenty of time to devise a plan.

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