Hi all.
Can I get some feedback on the following site:
http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
Thanks.
--
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Chaddy2222 wrote:
> Hi all.
> Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
> Thanks.
> --
> Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org

   Don't get pissed cuz you DID ask, but my initial reaction right off 
the cuff is that it looks free. I have seen work by a 12 yo that was 
much better looking. A very dedicated 12yo, but a kid none the less. 
That babyshit brown is ok in small doses, but you've got way too much of 
it in one spot.

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Chaddy2222 wrote:
> Hi all.
> Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
> Thanks.
> --
> Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org

   Oh, that box that says "There is 2 articles published at the moment." 
You need to use proper English. There are, not is and two, not 2.

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"Chaddy2222"  wrote in message 
news:8768903e-f213-42b8-b960-127d058bb3da@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all.
> Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org

Split-second reaction was 'I like the colour scheme' but then I started 
looking around.

I think the headline is a bit too large considering it is just plain text 
and I don't see the point in the huge & out of proportion gapping under it.

The layout structure does not work at all on IE7. The black padding around 
the links is huge, then when you roll over a link, roughly 20px of 
margin/padding vanishes from under it lifting the page contents up. On 
further IE/FF comparison as I write this; none of the margins match and IE 
is a comparative mess. Big problems.

---dE|_---

<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Chaddy2222>
<Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:31:18 -0800 (PST)>


> Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
> 

To be quite honest , It looks like it was done by a five year old in a 
blue peter competition .


-- 
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On Jan 21, 3:51 am, "dE|_"  wrote:
> "Chaddy2222"  wrote in message
>
> news:8768903e-f213-42b8-b960-127d058bb3da@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi all.
> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> Split-second reaction was 'I like the colour scheme' but then I started
> looking around.
>
> I think the headline is a bit too large considering it is just plain text
> and I don't see the point in the huge & out of proportion gapping under it> The layout structure does not work at all on IE7. The black padding around> the links is huge, then when you roll over a link, roughly 20px of
> margin/padding vanishes from under it lifting the page contents up. On
> further IE/FF comparison as I write this; none of the margins match and IE> is a comparative mess. Big problems.
>
> ---dE|_---
Thanks for that Del.
I'll take a look at the margins and padding on the navbar (I think I
need to do some work on that anyway as it does not re-size well.
That is also why the heading space is large as it gives the text room
to move when the body text is re-sized.
--
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On Jan 21, 3:51 am, "dE|_"  wrote:
> "Chaddy2222"  wrote in message
>
> news:8768903e-f213-42b8-b960-127d058bb3da@m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi all.
> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> Split-second reaction was 'I like the colour scheme' but then I started
> looking around.
>
> I think the headline is a bit too large considering it is just plain text
> and I don't see the point in the huge & out of proportion gapping under it> The layout structure does not work at all on IE7. The black padding around> the links is huge, then when you roll over a link, roughly 20px of
> margin/padding vanishes from under it lifting the page contents up. On
> further IE/FF comparison as I write this; none of the margins match and IE> is a comparative mess. Big problems.
>
> ---dE|_---
Hi Del.
I made a few chages in the CSS.
Does is look a bit better in IE7 now?
Thanks.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org

On Jan 21, 3:19 am, WindsorFox-{SS}-  wrote:
> Chaddy2222 wrote:
> > Hi all.
> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Regards Chad.http://freewebdesignonline.org
>
>    Don't get pissed cuz you DID ask, but my initial reaction right off> the cuff is that it looks free. I have seen work by a 12 yo that was
> much better looking. A very dedicated 12yo, but a kid none the less.
> That babyshit brown is ok in small doses, but you've got way too much of
> it in one spot.
>
I have made a few changes to the site.
BTW it's ment to look a bit like that (hence the colour scheme.
--
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> "Chaddy2222" asked
>>
>> > Hi all.
>> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
>> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>>
>> Split-second reaction was 'I like the colour scheme' but then I started
>> looking around.
>>
>> I think the headline is a bit too large considering it is just plain text
>> and I don't see the point in the huge & out of proportion gapping under 
>> it.
>>
>> The layout structure does not work at all on IE7. The black padding 
>> around
>> the links is huge, then when you roll over a link, roughly 20px of
>> margin/padding vanishes from under it lifting the page contents up. On
>> further IE/FF comparison as I write this; none of the margins match and 
>> IE
>> is a comparative mess. Big problems.
>>
>> ---dE|_---
> Hi Del.
> I made a few chages in the CSS.
> Does is look a bit better in IE7 now?
> Thanks.

Looking with a 1024 screen this time (1280 last time) and it's not much 
better.

I keep hardly any added toolbars on my browsers, yet the headline area on 
both browsers comes _past_ half-way down the screen before you get to the 
navigation strip. Sorry Chaddy but that is just daft, somebody with all the 
novelty add-ons and not maximised will see nothing but heading.

The black back area behind links is almost twice as tall in IE as FF and 
comes all the way down to the "Welcome" text box, covering what should be a 
margin.

---dE|_---

"Chaddy2222" say;
>>
>> > Hi all.
>> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
>> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org

http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg

If accessibilty is your prime concern in design then we can call 
cross-browser my big niggle. I believe you are visualy impared...? So I 
don't know how much use that 2 browser screen shot will be to you.

---dE|_---

On Jan 21, 10:50 pm, "dE|_"  wrote:
> "Chaddy2222" say;
>
>
>
> >> > Hi all.
> >> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> >> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg
>
<snip>
I see what you mean regarding the hight difference in IE.
I have done some work on the heading size (it should look a bit more
banner-ish now.
Does it look better?
Oh and is the problem with the navigation fixxed in IE7 (I checked
before and all seamed ok.
--
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"Chaddy2222"  wrote
>>
>>
>>
>> >> > Hi all.
>> >> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
>> >> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>>
>> http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg
>>
><snip>
> I see what you mean regarding the hight difference in IE.
> I have done some work on the heading size (it should look a bit more
> banner-ish now.
> Does it look better?
> Oh and is the problem with the navigation fixxed in IE7 (I checked
> before and all seamed ok.

No. Still huge black back strip, missing brown margin, back to the original 
bug where you roll over a nav and the bottom margin collapses bringing the 
page up with it. How the hell did you do that?

Now you've gone and enclosed the header in some box. When the window is at 
maximum 1024 this makes the line wrap. Chaddy, start that style sheet again, 
get rid of the blank space under the header text and either shrink that 
bloody font or set it up with a <br> to 2 lines. I'm starting to sway to 
krusty's opinion here.

I won't be back to the group now, busy afternoon.

---dE|_---

On Jan 22, 12:28 am, "dE|_"  wrote:
> "Chaddy2222"  wrote
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >> > Hi all.
> >> >> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> >> >> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> >>http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg
>
> ><snip>
> > I see what you mean regarding the hight difference in IE.
> > I have done some work on the heading size (it should look a bit more
> > banner-ish now.
> > Does it look better?
> > Oh and is the problem with the navigation fixxed in IE7 (I checked
> > before and all seamed ok.
>
> No. Still huge black back strip, missing brown margin, back to the original
> bug where you roll over a nav and the bottom margin collapses bringing the> page up with it. How the hell did you do that?
<snip>
I think I have that bug sorted now.
When you get time can you take another look. Thanks.
Oh and I changed the colour of the navbar to better match the rest of
the site (so it should look better.
I still have that hight issue in IE though.
--
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Chaddy2222 wrote:
> On Jan 21, 3:19 am, WindsorFox-{SS}-  wrote:
>> Chaddy2222 wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>> Can I get some feedback on the following site:
>>> http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>>> Thanks.
>>> --
>>> Regards Chad.http://freewebdesignonline.org
>>    Don't get pissed cuz you DID ask, but my initial reaction right off
>> the cuff is that it looks free. I have seen work by a 12 yo that was
>> much better looking. A very dedicated 12yo, but a kid none the less.
>> That babyshit brown is ok in small doses, but you've got way too much of
>> it in one spot.
>>
> I have made a few changes to the site.
> BTW it's ment to look a bit like that (hence the colour scheme.
> --
> Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org

    Whatever. You still have improper English in the turd brown box on 
the right.

-- 
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"Daytime television sucked 20 years ago,
    and it still sucks today!"  -   Marc Bissonette

On Jan 21, 3:07 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 12:28 am, "dE|_"  wrote:
>
> > "Chaddy2222"  wrote
>
> > >> >> > Hi all.
> > >> >> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> > >> >> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> > >>http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg
>
> > ><snip>
> > > I see what you mean regarding the hight difference in IE.
> > > I have done some work on the heading size (it should look a bit more
> > > banner-ish now.
> > > Does it look better?
> > > Oh and is the problem with the navigation fixxed in IE7 (I checked
> > > before and all seamed ok.
>
> > No. Still huge black back strip, missing brown margin, back to the original
> > bug where you roll over a nav and the bottom margin collapses bringing the
> > page up with it. How the hell did you do that?
>
> <snip>
> I think I have that bug sorted now.
> When you get time can you take another look. Thanks.
> Oh and I changed the colour of the navbar to better match the rest of
> the site (so it should look better.
> I still have that hight issue in IE though.

I am watching it with Opera and the top block looks disproportionaly
huge.
Yeah, same thing in Firefox.
Menu bottoms too big and the text should be centered
Block with: "There is 2 articles published at the moment." should
either be on its own or with the same height as the box that contains
it.
Bottom block also looks disproportionaly huge. Give it less padding.
"Free Web Design Online" box is out of proportion, make box smaller or
better, no box. No need.

Choice of colours fine.

On Jan 22, 9:43 am, RafaMinu  wrote:
> On Jan 21, 3:07 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
>
>
>
>
>
> sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > On Jan 22, 12:28 am, "dE|_"  wrote:
>
> > > "Chaddy2222"  wrote
>
> > > >> >> > Hi all.
> > > >> >> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> > > >> >> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> > > >>http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg
>
> > > ><snip>
> > > > I see what you mean regarding the hight difference in IE.
> > > > I have done some work on the heading size (it should look a bit more> > > > banner-ish now.
> > > > Does it look better?
> > > > Oh and is the problem with the navigation fixxed in IE7 (I checked
> > > > before and all seamed ok.
>
> > > No. Still huge black back strip, missing brown margin, back to the original
> > > bug where you roll over a nav and the bottom margin collapses bringing the
> > > page up with it. How the hell did you do that?
>
> > <snip>
> > I think I have that bug sorted now.
> > When you get time can you take another look. Thanks.
> > Oh and I changed the colour of the navbar to better match the rest of
> > the site (so it should look better.
> > I still have that hight issue in IE though.
>
> I am watching it with Opera and the top block looks disproportionaly
> huge.
> Yeah, same thing in Firefox.
> Menu bottoms too big and the text should be centered
> Block with: "There is 2 articles published at the moment." should
> either be on its own or with the same height as the box that contains
> it.
> Bottom block also looks disproportionaly huge. Give it less padding.
> "Free Web Design Online" box is out of proportion, make box smaller or
> better, no box. No need.
I made a few changes.
What do you think?

>
> Choice of colours fine.- Hide quoted text -
>
Thanks for that.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesignonline.org

Your site design is not so modern. Your site have no unique design and 
navigation on all pages. There is some errors. On home page I can not see 
complete menu in firefox.

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On Jan 22, 8:22 pm, "Mafia"  wrote:
> Your site design is not so modern. Your site have no unique design and
> navigation on all pages. There is some errors. On home page I can not see
> complete menu in firefox.
>
Hi.
Yeah I was doing some work on the site (but it should all be fixxed
now.
--
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WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
> 
>    Whatever. You still have improper English in the turd brown box on 
> the right.
>

The text on *every* page of that site (what there is of it) needs to be 
rewritten by somebody who can write English properly. If the author 
can't tell the difference, he needs to hire somebody who can.

Anahata

On Jan 22, 10:12 pm, Anahata  wrote:
> WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
>
> >    Whatever. You still have improper English in the turd brown box on
> > the right.
>
> The text on *every* page of that site (what there is of it) needs to be
> rewritten by somebody who can write English properly. If the author
> can't tell the difference, he needs to hire somebody who can.
>
> Anahata

Nah it reads fine i'm a Public Relations student!.
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On 22/1/08 9:49 am, in article
2493272e-7e06-4ea4-8d43-c6bfde7d99d9@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"Chaddy2222"  wrote:

> On Jan 22, 8:22 pm, "Mafia"  wrote:
>> Your site design is not so modern. Your site have no unique design and
>> navigation on all pages. There is some errors. On home page I can not see
>> complete menu in firefox.
>> 
> Hi.
> Yeah I was doing some work on the site (but it should all be fixxed
> now.

Why is everything different widths?

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http://www.redcatmedia.co.uk

On Jan 23, 6:25 am, Andy Jacobs  wrote:
> On 22/1/08 9:49 am, in article
> 2493272e-7e06-4ea4-8d43-c6bfde7d9...@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
>
> "Chaddy2222"  wrote:
> > On Jan 22, 8:22 pm, "Mafia"  wrote:
> >> Your site design is not so modern. Your site have no unique design and
> >> navigation on all pages. There is some errors. On home page I can not see
> >> complete menu in firefox.
>
> > Hi.
> > Yeah I was doing some work on the site (but it should all be fixxed
> > now.
>
> Why is everything different widths?
>
It's partly a design choice (hence the rather brown colour scheme.
--
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On Jan 22, 4:44 am, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 9:43 am, RafaMinu  wrote:
>
> > On Jan 21, 3:07 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
>
> > sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > On Jan 22, 12:28 am, "dE|_"  wrote:
>
> > > > "Chaddy2222"  wrote
>
> > > > >> >> > Hi all.
> > > > >> >> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> > > > >> >> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> > > > >>http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg
>
> > > > ><snip>
> > > > > I see what you mean regarding the hight difference in IE.
> > > > > I have done some work on the heading size (it should look a bit more
> > > > > banner-ish now.
> > > > > Does it look better?
> > > > > Oh and is the problem with the navigation fixxed in IE7 (I checked
> > > > > before and all seamed ok.
>
> > > > No. Still huge black back strip, missing brown margin, back to the original
> > > > bug where you roll over a nav and the bottom margin collapses bringing the
> > > > page up with it. How the hell did you do that?
>
> > > <snip>
> > > I think I have that bug sorted now.
> > > When you get time can you take another look. Thanks.
> > > Oh and I changed the colour of the navbar to better match the rest of
> > > the site (so it should look better.
> > > I still have that hight issue in IE though.
>
> > I am watching it with Opera and the top block looks disproportionaly
> > huge.
> > Yeah, same thing in Firefox.
> > Menu bottoms too big and the text should be centered
> > Block with: "There is 2 articles published at the moment." should
> > either be on its own or with the same height as the box that contains
> > it.
> > Bottom block also looks disproportionaly huge. Give it less padding.
> > "Free Web Design Online" box is out of proportion, make box smaller or
> > better, no box. No need.
>
> I made a few changes.
> What do you think?

Much better.
Still menu buttons far too big, should be about half that height.
Footer could use a bit less padding and some top margin to
differentiate it from the main box.
Try to populate main box  with more text so we can see how it will
look like.

BTW, there is a site with a similar name than yours that I like a lot,
They have some great Templates.
Open Source Web Design.
http://www.oswd.org/

On Jan 23, 8:30 pm, 1001 Webs  wrote:
> On Jan 22, 4:44 am, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
>
>
>
>
>
> sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > On Jan 22, 9:43 am, RafaMinu  wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 21, 3:07 pm, Chaddy2222 <spamlovermailbox-
>
> > > sicur...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > > On Jan 22, 12:28 am, "dE|_"  wrote:
>
> > > > > "Chaddy2222"  wrote
>
> > > > > >> >> > Hi all.
> > > > > >> >> > Can I get some feedback on the following site:
> > > > > >> >> >http://wdto.freewebdesignonline.org
>
> > > > > >>http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/FWD.jpg
>
> > > > > ><snip>
> > > > > > I see what you mean regarding the hight difference in IE.
> > > > > > I have done some work on the heading size (it should look a bit more
> > > > > > banner-ish now.
> > > > > > Does it look better?
> > > > > > Oh and is the problem with the navigation fixxed in IE7 (I checked
> > > > > > before and all seamed ok.
>
> > > > > No. Still huge black back strip, missing brown margin, back to the original
> > > > > bug where you roll over a nav and the bottom margin collapses bringing the
> > > > > page up with it. How the hell did you do that?
>
> > > > <snip>
> > > > I think I have that bug sorted now.
> > > > When you get time can you take another look. Thanks.
> > > > Oh and I changed the colour of the navbar to better match the rest of
> > > > the site (so it should look better.
> > > > I still have that hight issue in IE though.
>
> > > I am watching it with Opera and the top block looks disproportionaly
> > > huge.
> > > Yeah, same thing in Firefox.
> > > Menu bottoms too big and the text should be centered
> > > Block with: "There is 2 articles published at the moment." should
> > > either be on its own or with the same height as the box that contains
> > > it.
> > > Bottom block also looks disproportionaly huge. Give it less padding.
> > > "Free Web Design Online" box is out of proportion, make box smaller or> > > better, no box. No need.
>
> > I made a few changes.
> > What do you think?
>
> Much better.
> Still menu buttons far too big, should be about half that height.
> Footer could use a bit less padding and some top margin to
> differentiate it from the main box.
> Try to populate main box  with more text so we can see how it will
> look like.
>
> BTW, there is a site with a similar name than yours that I like a lot,
> They have some great Templates.
> Open Source Web Design.http://www.oswd.org/- Hide quoted text -
>
Yeah I do know of that website.
It is quite good for idea's.
Most of the stuff I do now though is custom (mainly because it's
eadier to work out when something goes wrong in the stylesheet.
--
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