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date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:03:13 GMT,    group: uk.net.web.authoring        back       
HELLLLP!!! The spiders are out of control!!   
Searches of my new site is too interested in the descriptive nav bar on all 
7 pages and robots.txt will only control indexing of pages as a whole.

Surely someone here has been through this before??!?

Try it if you like but it's not styled yet
http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/search/search.php
Search for something like multimedia or trading.

---dE|_---
date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:03:13 GMT   author:   dE|_

Re: HELLLLP!!! The spiders are out of control!!   
In message <5Px8j.11192$KC3.5451@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, dE|_
 writes
>Searches of my new site is too interested in the descriptive nav bar on all
>7 pages and robots.txt will only control indexing of pages as a whole.
>
>Surely someone here has been through this before??!?
>
>Try it if you like but it's not styled yet
>http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/search/search.php
>Search for something like multimedia or trading.

http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/features.html

Has a section called

        Configurable weighting and boosting options

Which can allegedly boost the importance of elements (eg. title, meta
description, meta keywords, headings, etc.) in the results. Assuming
that you are using appropriate titles, meta descriptions, meta keywords
and headings for / on each page you may get better results from boosting
them. At least then they should appear higher up the results list even
if the nav bar leads to inappropriate pages being listed further down.

If you are not using those properly your pages will not do well in the
public search engines...

However as I mentioned in my other post in your other thread perhaps you
need to trim most of the descriptive content out of the nav bar.
-- 
Dominic Sexton
date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:40:14 +0000   author:   Dominic Sexton {da-sep03}@dscs.demon.co.uk

Re: HELLLLP!!! The spiders are out of control!!   
"Dominic Sexton" say with power...
> http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/features.html
>
> Has a section called
>
>        Configurable weighting and boosting options
>
> Which can allegedly boost the importance of elements (eg. title, meta
> description, meta keywords, headings, etc.) in the results. Assuming
> that you are using appropriate titles, meta descriptions, meta keywords
> and headings for / on each page you may get better results from boosting
> them. At least then they should appear higher up the results list even
> if the nav bar leads to inappropriate pages being listed further down.
>
> If you are not using those properly your pages will not do well in the
> public search engines...
>
> However as I mentioned in my other post in your other thread perhaps you
> need to trim most of the descriptive content out of the nav bar.

http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/images/linkconfig.GIF

Word weighting, sorted. You can set the importance of link text to be almost 
irrelevant in searches without losing the crawling link, missed that one. 
Good bit of kit this, free for sites under 50 pages and there's no planted 
ads. Only trouble is you don't get support.

I think I'll be leaving the words in the nav to work as on-page keywords for 
Google purposes, it was just the in-house searches that were looking stupid.

Nice one Dom.

---dE|_---
date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:47:21 GMT   author:   dE|_

Re: HELLLLP!!! The spiders are out of control!!   
dE|_B0y wrote incorrectly
>> http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/features.html
>>
>> Has a section called
>>
>>        Configurable weighting and boosting options
>>
>> Which can allegedly boost the importance of elements (eg. title, meta
>> description, meta keywords, headings, etc.) in the results. Assuming
>> that you are using appropriate titles, meta descriptions, meta keywords
>> and headings for / on each page you may get better results from boosting
>> them. At least then they should appear higher up the results list even
>> if the nav bar leads to inappropriate pages being listed further down.
>>
>> If you are not using those properly your pages will not do well in the
>> public search engines...
>>
>> However as I mentioned in my other post in your other thread perhaps you
>> need to trim most of the descriptive content out of the nav bar.
>
> http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/images/linkconfig.GIF
>
> Word weighting, sorted. You can set the importance of link text to be 
> almost irrelevant in searches without losing the crawling link, missed 
> that one.

Doesn't seem to have done the job I assumed- from another help page I think 
'Link Text' is referring to the text at the other end of the link rather 
than the text that is the link itself.

Mind you, it would be a bit daft of me to panic that visitors would search 
for words that are sitting in the navigation bar...? Going to brief it down 
a touch now.

---dE|_---
date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:18:02 GMT   author:   dE|_

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