For all the negative critiques of crackguitar.com, I'm having to teach crap 
like Floyd, Clapton and Cash as I've got so many old boys coming to me now.

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:19:10 GMT, "dE|_"  wrote:

>For all the negative critiques of crackguitar.com, I'm having to teach crap 
>like Floyd, Clapton and Cash as I've got so many old boys coming to me now.

Can we assume that every spelling mistake is a bum note and all the
grammatical errors are worn frets?
I think "Alice in Chians" were a string quartet back in the 70s!

One has to be picky.


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"Paul Herber"  wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:19:10 GMT, "dE|_"  wrote:
>
>>For all the negative critiques of crackguitar.com, I'm having to teach 
>>crap
>>like Floyd, Clapton and Cash as I've got so many old boys coming to me 
>>now.
>
> Can we assume that every spelling mistake is a bum note and all the
> grammatical errors are worn frets?
> I think "Alice in Chians" were a string quartet back in the 70s!
>
> One has to be picky.

Which page is that on? I'm in the middle of another job at the moment.

"Paul Herber" wrote...
> Can we assume that every spelling mistake is a bum note and all the
> grammatical errors are worn frets?
> I think "Alice in Chians" were a string quartet back in the 70s!

Found the 2 Alice in Chains spell/grammar anyway.

You a fan then?

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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:42:14 GMT, "dE|_"  wrote:

>
>"Paul Herber" wrote...
>> Can we assume that every spelling mistake is a bum note and all the
>> grammatical errors are worn frets?
>> I think "Alice in Chians" were a string quartet back in the 70s!
>
>Found the 2 Alice in Chains spell/grammar anyway.
>
>You a fan then?

No.


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contained the following:

>For all the negative critiques of crackguitar.com, I'm having to teach crap 
>like Floyd, Clapton and Cash as I've got so many old boys coming to me now.

Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
I would have thought. But Clapton and Gilmore might take a little
longer. But there's bugger all decent guitar around at the moment in any
of the current crop of bands AFAICS.  What would not be crap in your
view?

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> Message-ID: <2Gd7j.9091$KC3.647@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net> from dE|_
> contained the following:
>
>>For all the negative critiques of crackguitar.com, I'm having to teach 
>>crap
>>like Floyd, Clapton and Cash as I've got so many old boys coming to me 
>>now.
>
> Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
> I would have thought. But Clapton and Gilmore might take a little
> longer. But there's bugger all decent guitar around at the moment in any
> of the current crop of bands AFAICS.  What would not be crap in your
> view?

I've sifted through generations of music to find suitable stuff for the 
learning curve rather than fixing to particular bands, which is annoyingly 
all that mid-life crisis boy who picks up the strings wants to do- be Dave 
Gilmore.

Most recent tune added to my list; Newton Faulkner's cover of 'Teardrop'
http://www.crackguitar.com/tab/tab_teardropNewtonFaulkner.html

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Message-ID: <N%Q7j.4629$Hc3.553@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net> from dE|_
contained the following:

>> Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
>> I would have thought. But Clapton and Gilmore might take a little
>> longer. But there's bugger all decent guitar around at the moment in any
>> of the current crop of bands AFAICS.  What would not be crap in your
>> view?
>
>I've sifted through generations of music to find suitable stuff for the 
>learning curve rather than fixing to particular bands, which is annoyingly 
>all that mid-life crisis boy who picks up the strings wants to do- be Dave 
>Gilmore. 

Surely there is more motivation to learn stuff one likes?  I think you
are showing contempt for your customers.
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"Geoff Berrow" considered;
>>> Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
>>> I would have thought. But Clapton and Gilmore might take a little
>>> longer. But there's bugger all decent guitar around at the moment in any
>>> of the current crop of bands AFAICS.  What would not be crap in your
>>> view?
>>
>>I've sifted through generations of music to find suitable stuff for the
>>learning curve rather than fixing to particular bands, which is annoyingly
>>all that mid-life crisis boy who picks up the strings wants to do- be Dave
>>Gilmore.
>
> Surely there is more motivation to learn stuff one likes?  I think you
> are showing contempt for your customers.

Read it how you will, but I wouldn't go that far. Just frustration as (in 
general) only something like 5% of 7 year's prepared material is acceptable 
to them. I'm trying to concentrate on a career in web development now.

End of thread.

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Geoff Berrow wrote:

> Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
> I would have thought.

C major's a crummy key to play in on the guitar. Mostly because the 
subdominant chord (F major) is a barre chord, which will dull the tonality 
of the sound of the guitar.

G major is generally more suitable for beginners, as the subdominant, 
dominant and submediant chords are C and D, Em, which are each open 
chords, so the guitar will sound brighter; and they're all relatively easy 
to fret and won't result in a tired forefinger from all that barring.

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"Toby A Inkster" wrote in message...
> Geoff Berrow wrote:
>
>> Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
>> I would have thought.
>
> C major's a crummy key to play in on the guitar. Mostly because the
> subdominant chord (F major) is a barre chord, which will dull the tonality
> of the sound of the guitar.

Okay, I was going to stay away but I'll let you into the trick of the trade;

When changing from C-F dont bother making the full bar all the way to root. 
Just lay over the top 2 thin string (where the 1st finger already is) and 
kill the low E with your thumb. This saves a lot of hand movement, only a 2 
string bar, and keeps focus on -at least- the same note range.

-0----1---
-1----1---
-0----2---
-2----3---
-3----3---
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>and won't result in a tired forefinger from all that barring.

What barring? :-)

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dE|_ wrote:

> When changing from C-F dont bother making the full bar all the way to
> root. Just lay over the top 2 thin string (where the 1st finger already
> is) and kill the low E with your thumb.

I mostly do -- and I tend to avoid strumming both the E and A strings, 
because that gives you FACF on the other strings instead of CFACF which 
(to my ear at least) puts too much emphasis on the C.

But even so, I'd rather play in a scale with D than F (and for that 
matter, Em is easier than Am too, not that Am is difficult).

But these days my fingers are too soft, so it hurts, so I don't play much, 
so my fingers stay soft. A vicious circle. :-(

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On 13/12/07 11:47 am, in article 9oi735-cmf.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk, "Toby A
Inkster"  wrote:

> Geoff Berrow wrote:
> 
>> Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
>> I would have thought.
> 
> C major's a crummy key to play in on the guitar. Mostly because the
> subdominant chord (F major) is a barre chord, which will dull the tonality
> of the sound of the guitar.
> 
> G major is generally more suitable for beginners, as the subdominant,
> dominant and submediant chords are C and D, Em, which are each open
> chords, so the guitar will sound brighter; and they're all relatively easy
> to fret and won't result in a tired forefinger from all that barring.

And I've got fingers like sausages so barre chords are a bugger anyway!

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contained the following:

>> Not an awful lot to teach for Cash once you have covered C, Am, F and G
>> I would have thought.
>
>C major's a crummy key to play in on the guitar. Mostly because the 
>subdominant chord (F major) is a barre chord, which will dull the tonality 
>of the sound of the guitar.

A guy who comes to our sessions plays a lot of Johnny Cash and he always
plays in the key of C.  Dunno what the original key is.  

As Del says, I'd never play an F as a barre chord but I have
sufficiently big hands so as to fret the low E string with my thumb, so
I don't have to.

I agree that God's key is easiest to get people started.

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"Toby A Inkster" wrote in message in a bottle...
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>
> G major is generally more suitable for beginners, as the subdominant,
> dominant and submediant chords are C and D, Em, which are each open
> chords, so the guitar will sound brighter; and they're all relatively easy
> to fret and won't result in a tired forefinger from all that barring.

Here's a good tune in C#minor pentatonic ('blues') scale;
http://www.websitefoundry.co.uk/multimedia.html click the mic

Here's the tab
http://www.crackguitar.com/tab/tab_rollright.html

No pussy Cash chords in here, just left-to-right on/off co-ordination for ya 
son.

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