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date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:39:01 +0000,    group: uk.net.providers.aaisp        back       
Last Sunday: 25 hour day   
Because of the clocks going back last Sunday, my graph (and presumably 
everyone else's) shows 25 hours with two 01:00 showing. This is as expected.

I'm not in the slightest concerned about overnight traffic as I've never 
even scratched the surface of my allowance, but it looks likely that I'd 
get counted as having used the full 25 hours worth.

No doubt next march 28 I'll get a 23 hours day (so presumably somewhere 
there is an hour that would not get billed…)

Since going over your limit is a more significant event that going under 
it (just like the banks), this seems to imply an almost insignificant 
bias in favour of A&A.

I'm just that sort of a person; see http://www.swiftys.org.uk/wiz?267

-- 
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk
date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:39:01 +0000   author:   Swifty

Re: Last Sunday: 25 hour day   
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:39:01 +0000, Swifty  wrote:

> Because of the clocks going back last Sunday, my graph (and presumably 
> everyone else's) shows 25 hours with two 01:00 showing. This is as expected.
>
> I'm not in the slightest concerned about overnight traffic as I've never 
> even scratched the surface of my allowance, but it looks likely that I'd 
> get counted as having used the full 25 hours worth.
>
> No doubt next march 28 I'll get a 23 hours day (so presumably somewhere 
> there is an hour that would not get billed…)

On which tariff are you being billed per hour?

> Since going over your limit is a more significant event that going under 
> it (just like the banks), this seems to imply an almost insignificant 
> bias in favour of A&A.

What is your limit of hours per month and where do you see it?

Tony
date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:54:58 +0000   author:   Anthony R. Gold

Re: Last Sunday: 25 hour day   
On 2009-10-31, Swifty  wrote:
> Because of the clocks going back last Sunday, my graph (and presumably 
> everyone else's) shows 25 hours with two 01:00 showing. This is as expected.
>
> I'm not in the slightest concerned about overnight traffic as I've never 
> even scratched the surface of my allowance, but it looks likely that I'd 
> get counted as having used the full 25 hours worth.
>
> No doubt next march 28 I'll get a 23 hours day (so presumably somewhere 
> there is an hour that would not get billed…)
>
> Since going over your limit is a more significant event that going under 
> it (just like the banks), this seems to imply an almost insignificant 
> bias in favour of A&A.
>
> I'm just that sort of a person; see http://www.swiftys.org.uk/wiz?267

So October is 31 days and 1 hour long.  Depending on the year, the exact
number of peak/off-peak hours will vary slightly.  The number of 'night'
hours will remain constant at 125.

March will have 30 days and 23 hours, again, the nubmer of peak/off-peak
hours will vary slightly, and the number of 'night' hours will be fixed
at 123.

The number of hours in February will vary depending on whether it is
a leap year or not, as well as the distribution of weekends.
The other months will either be 30/31 days long.

A 'month' has _never_ been a fixed number of peak / off-peak / night
hours, so I'm not sure why you're worried about a 1 hour bias in
either direction...

-- 
David Taylor
date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (UTC)   author:   David Taylor

Re: Last Sunday: 25 hour day   
Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> What is your limit of hours per month and where do you see it?

There may be easier routes, but I clicked on my userid above my usage 
graph to display my account details.

4.00G/month; 100G/month off-peak.

-- 
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:40:57 +0000   author:   Swifty

Re: Last Sunday: 25 hour day   
On 2009-11-01, Swifty  wrote:
> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>> What is your limit of hours per month and where do you see it?
>
> There may be easier routes, but I clicked on my userid above my usage 
> graph to display my account details.
>
> 4.00G/month; 100G/month off-peak.

I think you're missing his point...

-- 
David Taylor
date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:43:58 +0000 (UTC)   author:   David Taylor

Re: Last Sunday: 25 hour day   
David Taylor wrote:
>> 4.00G/month; 100G/month off-peak.
> 
> I think you're missing his point...

That's my prerogative given that everyone missed mine in 
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/wiz?267

I watched a Jonathan Miller interview today where he explained that 
almost everything that he finds interesting became interesting when he 
found that he had failed to notice something which turns out to be more 
interesting than he had foreseen. The "Considerable in the 
inconsiderable" is his phrase for this effect. I'm 100% with him.

-- 
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:36:46 +0000   author:   Swifty

Re: Last Sunday: 25 hour day   
On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 18:40 퍍, Swifty wrote:
> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> > What is your limit of hours per month and where do you see it?
> 
> There may be easier routes, but I clicked on my userid above my usage 
> graph to display my account details.
> 
> 4.00G/month; 100G/month off-peak.

What does that have to do with the number of _hours_?

So October has one more off-peak hour than August does. So what? 

Even without that hour, October already has 14 more off-peak hours and
10 more peak hours than June does. And it has 42 more off-peak and 30
more peak hours than February does.

What's your point? Why does a single hour make any difference, given the
amount that months already differ in length?

-- 
dwmw2
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:15:06 +0000   author:   David Woodhouse

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